2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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volprof said:
Something I don't understand about some of you, besides being Trump supporters, is that every single one of us on here is arrogant and thinks himself smarter than most others on here.

Then I come along, state what everyone on here thinks about himself, and you all get your underwear in a wad.

Stop lying to yourselves.
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But I'm the only one here that's opinion of them-self is correct.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I am becoming more and more convinced as Election Day nears that Trump is going to win.
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I've said for the last three months or so that I think the guy wins. I've backed off a bit recently with his sexual assault comments and allegations (not to mention his pedophilia cases, which the media aren't even covering because it would completely ruin him, and that is bad for ratings), but I still think he wins the popular, at least.

That's just how much Hillary is hated. And with good reason.

But, should she win, let it never be forgotten the poor state of American public education that produced Trump as a nominee.

That is on everyone, Republicans for wanting stupid voters that would follow their bigotry and Democrats for wanting fact-free generations that care not for the exceptional nature of American history.
 
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VolnJC said:
Yep, ignore the ones that you don't like and embrace the others.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
RCP also uses them in their averages
RealClearPolitics - 2016 Latest Polls

Do you lie for a living? IBD also showing Trump getting 15% of black/hispanic voters

Clinton vs. Trump: IBD/TIPP Presidential Election Tracking Poll | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD
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Rasmussen isn't a highly rated poll by 538.
And the internals of the IBD weren't included in the link. And I severely doubt Trump out does Romney with Blacks and Hispanics.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/was-ibd-tipp-the-most-accurate-in-2012-nope
 
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HAMILTON, Ohio -- If you're trying to read the tea leaves, this could be very good news for Donald Trump: Absentee voting in Republican stronghold Butler County is up 9 percent this year compared to 2012, and 21 percent over 2008.

Two weeks before the election, the Butler County Board of Elections has seen 40 percent more requests from Republicans compared to 2012, and 51 percent more requests from Republicans compared to 2008.

Good news for Donald Trump? Butler County's absentee voting shows steady increase for Republicans - Story
 
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New poll has Heck up 7 points in Nevada...that's huge because that would be a GOP pickup of Reid's seat Ayotte is also up in NH..RCP predicts GOP 52-48 net pickup of 2 for the Dems
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
HAMILTON, Ohio -- If you're trying to read the tea leaves, this could be very good news for Donald Trump: Absentee voting in Republican stronghold Butler County is up 9 percent this year compared to 2012, and 21 percent over 2008.

Two weeks before the election, the Butler County Board of Elections has seen 40 percent more requests from Republicans compared to 2012, and 51 percent more requests from Republicans compared to 2008.

Good news for Donald Trump? Butler County's absentee voting shows steady increase for Republicans - Story
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But these percentages do not tell you who they are voting for. With polls showing only around 70% of registered republicans supporting Trump. This could be as much bad news as good news.
 
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volprof said:
Everyone else around me here are not the problem. Never said they are. There's plenty of folks here whose opinions I respect and admire.

However, the opinions of bigots, misogynists, people who never once consult logic, and of those who blame their problems almost completely on another group of Americans, I do have a problem with. I can neither respect nor admire their opinions, and I am smarter than them. You should feel the same.
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I can managed to feel however the **** I want to feel without you advising me, professor.


Something I don't understand about some of you, besides being Trump supporters, is that every single one of us on here is arrogant and thinks himself smarter than most others on here.

Then I come along, state what everyone on here thinks about himself, and you all get your underwear in a wad.

Stop lying to yourselves.
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Your entire post was complaining about the people here and either talking down or talking for them. If you had respect and admiration, you would be able to disagree or converse with people here without being a faux intellectual ******* in every post.
 
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***RoadVol*** said:
But these percentages do not tell you who they are voting for. With polls showing only around 70% of registered republicans supporting Trump. This could be as much bad news as good news.
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It's also only one county and is 8th in population in that state
 
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VolnJC said:
Blacks for Trump? Donald Trump is set to get the highest amount of AA voters since 1960..two of his plans that many blacks like are believe it or not stop and frisk and school vouchers


Black Likely Voters for TRUMP @Rasmussen_Poll
Oct 3 - 9%
Oct 6 - 12%
Oct 7 - 13%
Oct 10 - 14%
Oct 11 - 19%
Oct 12 - 19%
Oct 13 - 24% !
Oct 14 - 18%
Oct 17 - 17%
Oct 18 - 19%
Oct 19 - 18%
Oct 20 - 15%
Oct 21 - 16%
Oct 24 - 15%
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Rasmussen = the Dooley of polling.
 
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The ABC/Wash Post poll, which was +7 Dem btw(primaries were +1 GOP) had this interesting paragraph

Vote Groups

Vote preferences among groups have been generally stable; as noted, it’s intention to vote that’s been shifting slightly. Clinton leads by 53-37 percent among women, while it’s 43-47 percent, Clinton-Trump, among men; that 20-point gender gap is nearly double the average in presidential elections since 1976.

One difference from past elections is nonwhites overall: Trump’s support in this group, 20 percent, is typical for a Republican, while Clinton’s, 68 percent, is lower than typical for a Democrat. Barack Obama won 80 and 82 percent of nonwhites in his two elections, and the average since 1976 is 78 percent.

Clinton’s winning 88 percent of blacks and 65 percent of Hispanics, both essentially matching the average for Democratic presidential candidates. The difference, then, is nonwhites who aren’t black or Hispanic; about a quarter of all nonwhites, they’re splitting evenly between Clinton and Trump, 42-42 percent. It’s a group that voted 66-31 percent for Obama, per the 2012 exit poll.
 
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Mr_Henley said:
I can managed to feel however the **** I want to feel without you advising me, professor.





Your entire post was complaining about the people here and either talking down or talking for them. If you had respect and admiration, you would be able to disagree or converse with people here without being a faux intellectual ******* in every post.
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Sorry, but I just don't respect bigots. It's true.
 
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Latest PA poll internals
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VolnJC said:
New poll has Heck up 7 points in Nevada...that's huge because that would be a GOP pickup of Reid's seat Ayotte is also up in NH..RCP predicts GOP 52-48 net pickup of 2 for the Dems
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Polls mean nothing at this point. There was a poll out of Nevada yesterday that had Cortez and Hillary up 7.

Same in NH, poll had Hassan leading Ayotte.

This close to election you have to look at early voting preferences in relation to previous years- they're far more likely to predict outcome versus late polls.

For instance, in Ohio polls show Clinton and Trump tied, yet absentee and early votes are down 50% for Democrats versus 2012 - (Specifically in Cuyahoga county- largest population center and democratic stronghold in the state) indicating Trump will likely win Ohio if those preferences hold.

In Nevada, Hispanic absentee and early votes in Clark County (Las Vegas) are up over 100% from this time in 2012 - while republican numbers are down- indicating a likely Clinton and Cortez win there.
 
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VolnJC said:
Latest PA poll internals
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It hard to believe that when the Trump campaign has given up on earning the black vote.

Inside the Trump Bunker, With 12 Days to Go - Bloomberg

"Instead of expanding the electorate, Bannon and his team are trying to shrink it. “We have three major voter suppression operations under way,” says a senior official. They’re aimed at three groups Clinton needs to win overwhelmingly: idealistic white liberals, young women, and African Americans."
 
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carlos86 said:
It hard to believe that when the Trump campaign has given up on earning the black vote.

Inside the Trump Bunker, With 12 Days to Go - Bloomberg

"Instead of expanding the electorate, Bannon and his team are trying to shrink it. “We have three major voter suppression operations under way,” says a senior official. They’re aimed at three groups Clinton needs to win overwhelmingly: idealistic white liberals, young women, and African Americans."
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If he is giving up why would he give this speech yesterday?
Trump Proposes "New Deal For Black America" In Charlotte | Video | RealClearPolitics
 
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