2016 Election Thread Part Deux

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FLVOL69 said:
One of your dumber statements, were you not around for his birther presser? He played you liberal idiots like a Stradivarius.
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O'Doyle must have made it home from school today to get on his mommies computer. Hope you had a good day. O'Doyle Rules!!! You bada$$ little ginger
 
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carlos86 said:
U.S. Counter-intelligence officials are investigating Trump's foreign policy adviser Carter Page after he flew to Moscaw and met Russia's head of intelligence Sergey Naryshkin and Putin aide Igor Diveykin about intelligence on the 2016 election.

"Some of those briefed were “taken aback” when they learned about Page’s contacts in Moscow, viewing them as a possible back channel to the Russians that could undercut U.S. foreign policy, said a congressional source familiar with the briefings but who asked for anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject. The source added that U.S. officials in the briefings indicated that intelligence reports about the adviser’s talks with senior Russian officials close to President Vladimir Putin were being “actively monitored and investigated.”

Page came to the attention of officials at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow several years ago when he showed up in the Russian capital during several business trips and made provocative public comments critical of U.S. policy and sympathetic to Putin.

"Page is a former Merrill Lynch investment banker in Moscow who now runs a New York consulting firm, Global Energy Capital, located around the corner from Trump Tower, that specializes in oil and gas deals in Russia and other Central Asian countries"

"Diveykin now serves as deputy chief for internal policy and is believed by U.S. officials to have responsibility for intelligence collected by Russian agencies about the U.S. election, the Western intelligence source said."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-s-inte...ween-trump-adviser-and-kremlin-175046002.html
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Is this like Obama's moment when he whispered to the Russian PM that he'd have more flexibility after the election?
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Intellectually superior? Now who's the racist? You're a pathetic little worm of a man just like your buddy who loves to sling stereotypes until they come back to bite him in his oversized ass, piss off you ****ing wanker.
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ODoyle keeping up his internet tough guy routine. You're a special kind of stupid
 
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Sin City Vol said:
ODoyle keeping up his internet tough guy routine. You're a special kind of stupid
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His "are you racist?" accusations are so ridiculous they remind me the last time Mother Jones came to town. That had absolutely nothing to do with race or racism, yet it got the approval of several VolNation warriors.

This is how dumb our culture has become.

When people say they respect Putin, I tend to attack them.

But, I'll be honest, there is something to say for a man that realizes how absolutely detrimental to society a free-loading populace of a bunch of Reality TV jerkers are to its longevity.

Honestly, Putin has probably already beaten us.

These next years, they are not going to get easier.
 
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If everything goes as planned, Hillary will be concerned about the black community again in the next 4 years.

Such a big damn liar.....just uses their votes to get elected is all she wants from them. She uses the Obama way of stealing votes to win.
 
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After Trump is elected, one of the great marvels for future generations of historians - assuming record-keeping and analysis will still be things - will be how two generations now of progressive education reformers created the very thing they claimed to despise the most.

As American Education Collapses, Democracy?s Foundation Shakes - The Daily Beast

A great article. And a biting invective against the "let the student teach his or herself; you're a mere facilitator of learning as a teacher, so don't offend anyone" approach I always had to grapple with as an educator. Admittedly, no educator should ever be a dictator or an ideologue, but the inmates should never be allowed to run the asylum.

About the education students receive now in particular, as identified by the article, this is one reason why I have become increasingly conservative over the last couple of years. I'm sick and tired of this "don't offend anyone" anti-American, multiculturalist approach to education. I don't care whether or not someone's feelings will be hurt by the fact that Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, are the finest (or were at one time) this world has ever offered. Western children need to be taught to take pride in their history again and to learn about its governance, civics, and cultural and scientific contributions again.

As the article aptly points out, this approach has ironically enabled Trump, as a fact-free society, obsessed with entertainment and trash, rather than pride in great historical deeds, falls game for the machinations of a potential demagogue.
 
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volprof said:
After Trump is elected, one of the great marvels for future generations of historians - assuming record-keeping and analysis will still be things - will be how two generations now of progressive education reformers created the very thing they claimed to despise the most.

As American Education Collapses, Democracy?s Foundation Shakes - The Daily Beast

A great article. And a biting invective against the "let the student teach his or herself; you're a mere facilitator of learning as a teacher, so don't offend anyone" approach I always had to grapple with as an educator. Admittedly, no educator should ever be a dictator or an ideologue, but the inmates should never be allowed to run the asylum.

About the education students receive now in particular, as identified by the article, this is one reason why I have become increasingly conservative over the last couple of years. I'm sick and tired of this "don't offend anyone" anti-American, multiculturalist approach to education. I don't care whether or not someone's feelings will be hurt by the fact that Western Civilization in general, and America, specifically, are the finest (or were at one time) this world has ever offered. Western children need to be taught to take pride in their history again and to learn about its governance, civics, and cultural and scientific contributions again.

As the article aptly points out, this approach has ironically enabled Trump, as a fact-free society, obsessed with entertainment and trash, falls game for the machinations of a potential demagogue.
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Dang, I gave you a like. Who'd a thunk it?
 
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1972 Grad said:
Dang, I gave you a like. Who'd a thunk it?
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I'm capable of a coherent thought every now and then.

Many mock me on here constantly, and that's fine, but I am sincerely trending conservative the older I get.

But, for me, conservatism - true conservatism - means something different from the current fare.

I'm open to dialogue with conservatives about many matters of dogma, but there are three things I will not compromise on that many conservatives currently suck at. These are as follows:

1. Trickle down economics is complete bull. Stop acting like a bunch of weird Libertarians. That's not true conservatism.

2. Stop trying to control people's personal lives and stop being the Party of Old, Dying White People.

3. Voting for Donald J. Trump.
 
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volprof said:
I'm capable of a coherent thought every now and then.

Many mock me on here constantly, and that's fine, but I am sincerely trending conservative the older I get.

But, for me, conservatism - true conservatism - means something different from the current fare.

I'm open to dialogue with conservatives about many matters of dogma, but there are three things I will not compromise on that many conservatives currently suck at. These are as follows:

1. Trickle down economics is complete bull. Stop acting like a bunch of weird Libertarians. That's not true conservatism.

2. Stop trying to control people's personal lives and stop being the Party of Old, Dying White People.

3. Voting for Donald J. Trump.
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1) I have an Economics degree from U.T. The main thing that I got from my training is that there are several different avenues of thought. I'm not sure if any one is correct all the time. Economists are very similar to stock market analysts. They all disagree.

2) Don't care about anyone else's life, but I am an old dying white person. I can't change that.

3) Sorry, there are 2 choices, and the current Dem Party is not mine.
 
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Well early voting results are in for the Sunshine State — and the GOP nominee is off to a huge– in fact, historic — start.

Trump leads Clinton by 120,000 votes — the first Republican candidate to EVER lead in early voting in Florida.
 
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New poll out for Colorado..Trump up 4 points...that makes that race dead even in RCP average of polls..I think Trump could win but he doesn't have the ground game and early voting might cost him in close states.
 
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1972 Grad said:
1) I have an Economics degree from U.T. The main thing that I got from my training is that there are several different avenues of thought. I'm not sure if any one is correct all the time. Economists are very similar to stock market analysts. They all disagree.

2) Don't care about anyone else's life, but I am an old dying white person. I can't change that.

3) Sorry, there are 2 choices, and the current Dem Party is not mine.
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At UT I couldn't take business courses as electives while working on an engineering degree, so I loaded up on economics. There are things that make sense, and in a way supply and demand is not so different from feedback and control type logic. In the end, however, economics is pretty much a pseudo-science that really depends on human behavior - how people will respond to monetary or market stimuli. So economists make guesses about how people and governments will respond - something like the people who predict football scores - most probably far less credible than the front they present.

Then there are the Keynesians who like to believe that government meddling can solve everything - and the answer when they are wrong is that government didn't spend enough. That ignores the debt part - the hangover at the end of the stimulus party, but supposedly everybody will be feeling so good and with all the feel good spending, no one will notice the hangover. Oh, yeah, nobody quite seems to notice (or pretends not to notice) that Keynes lived in a different time and the market and government conditions were just a bit different from today.
 
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VolnJC said:
New poll out for Colorado..Trump up 4 points...that makes that race dead even in RCP average of polls..I think Trump could win but he doesn't have the ground game and early voting might cost him in close states.
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He has to take Ohio and Florida comfortably in the next couple of weeks. And put Pennsylvania into play.

Hillary is on the ropes right now in some States. Trump needs to go for the kill at the debate tonight.
 
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Grand Vol said:
He has to take Ohio and Florida comfortably in the next couple of weeks. And put Pennsylvania into play.

Hillary is on the ropes right now in some States. Trump needs to go for the kill at the debate tonight.
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If he can get here angry early on, she will fall trap to his game. He will be good as gold, because no one outdoes him in a name-calling rage fest. We have become a culture of complete trash, and he is the King of Trash.

But, whether he throws her off balance early by getting her angry, none of this will matter.
 
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1972 Grad said:
1) I have an Economics degree from U.T. The main thing that I got from my training is that there are several different avenues of thought. I'm not sure if any one is correct all the time. Economists are very similar to stock market analysts. They all disagree.

2) Don't care about anyone else's life, but I am an old dying white person. I can't change that.

3) Sorry, there are 2 choices, and the current Dem Party is not mine.
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1. I agree with this. I've thought for some time now that the best economic approach is what I would call an "adaptive economics," one that realizes no single economic theory or approach will be viable in every single case every time. Implementing such an approach in a nation the size of the US, however, is so impractical that we have to choose one over-arching approach that is best-suited to the most cases. Although an attractive business environment should always be pursued, the idea that wealthy people having more wealth means more jobs and money for the rest of us is not sound. If that were the case, middle- and lower-class Americans would be as collectively wealthy as they've ever been as our wealthy have become the wealthiest they've ever been, and this just simply isn't the case.

Pursuing such a policy makes Republicans look like a party of the wealthy, and this is not going to help it as we move forward this century.

2. One day I will be an old, dying white man, assuming I don't die somehow before that point. But, even so, I don't think it's wise for any party to ever predominantly serve the interests of one particular demographical group. Say what you will about Democrats and the authenticity of their concern for minorities, but they're at least a "big tent" party in reality, while Republicans currently are only in rhetoric.

3. I agree that, in an ideal world, the current Democrat choice should be no one's first or second or third or so on choice. The labor Democrat that Republican primary voters somehow nominated should not be either.
 
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