2016 Election Thread Part Deux

[hog88]

Agree - labeling revolution/government ousting by force as terrorism is a misunderstanding of terrorism.

Now revolutionaries may or may not use terroristic tactics in their efforts but overthrowing a government by force is not terrorism per se.

:good!:

 

[RikidyBones]

I'm not u turning at all. Overthrowing a government by force is terrorism. Or using the threat of force for political change. Both are terrorism.

What? No it isn't. One is civilian and the other is government. One is to improve life and the other incite chaos

 

[hog88]

Oh, I'm sure you will just trip over yourself trying to find it.

You won't see him for awhile (he'll pull an LG) or he'll totally ignore it.

 

[theFallGuy]

Did you really just try to argue at the end that a fence doesn't control citizens? That's absurd.

And you have to create a police state to truly enforce immigration.

no all of the comments you are making are absurd. So you are saying there is no possible way to enforce immigration laws without having a police state. So Spain is a police state as well as all of these countries?

How 65 countries have erected security walls on their borders | Daily Mail Online

 

[Grand Vol]

Now revolutionaries may or may not use terroristic tactics in their efforts but overthrowing a government by force is not terrorism per se.

Depends on if you happen to be in that government getting tossed out.

 

[AirVol]

What? No it isn't. One is civilian and the other is government. One is to improve life and the other incite chaos

You can't fix stupid.

 

[hog88]

Depends on if you happen to be in that government getting tossed out.

Not voting Dem will get you labeled by some.

 

[Grand Vol]

no all of the comments you are making are absurd. So you are saying there is no possible way to enforce immigration laws without having a police state. So Spain is a police state as well as all of these countries?

How 65 countries have erected security walls on their borders | Daily Mail Online

Call me crazy, but that ladder doesn't look that sturdy...

Taking redneck engineering to what even rednecks would consider unsafe levels.

 

[volinbham]

Depends on if you happen to be in that government getting tossed out.

Indeed

 

[Grand Vol]

Indeed

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

 

[hog88]

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

True but, it would be a cowardly man to endorse using terrorist tactics.

 

[Vol8188]

Terrorism in it's truest form is the deliberate attack on civilians/unarmed people to incite terror within the population. Starting a revolution and fighting the armed forces of a government is not terrorism.

Terrorism is the use of force or fear for political motivates. We have the second amendment so that we can create fear within the government

 

[Vol8188]

True but, it would be a cowardly man to endorse using terrorist tactics.

I disagree

 

[Vol8188]

Agree - labeling revolution/government ousting by force as terrorism is a misunderstanding of terrorism.

Now revolutionaries may or may not use terroristic tactics in their efforts but overthrowing a government by force is not terrorism per se.

What's the difference? I'm truly not seeing one

 

[Vol8188]

Depends on if you happen to be in that government getting tossed out.

Which is the entire reason why we shouldn't allow terrorist watch lists to determine ones ability to invoke their 2nd amendment rights

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Please tell me this is BS.

Where are my snopes people at?

Hillary Clinton blames "racism" for Cincinnati gorilla's death | Christian Times Newspaper

“I will tell you one thing,” Clinton said to a group of reporters. “If that gorilla was white, this situation would have ended differently. This was another senseless act of violence that spawned from prejudicial views about skin color.”

Can't be real. Hillary isn't even that dumb.

 

[Vol8188]

What? No it isn't. One is civilian and the other is government. One is to improve life and the other incite chaos

I feel like you don't understand any of these words

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Destroyed your yard. Can you explain how that relates to illegal immigration?

A better example would be someone jumps your fence, makes himself comfy on the couch, and tells you he lives there now.

Oh and if you complain you're a racist.

 

[Vol8188]

Not voting Dem will get you labeled by some.

Which is why it's absurd for any of you to support banning people on terrorist watch lists from owning guns, unless you believe the president will always be a republican

 

[Vol8188]

A better example would be someone jumps your fence, makes himself comfy on the couch, and tells you he lives there now.

Oh and if you complain you're a racist.

People are sleeping on your couch?

 

[Vol8188]

Can't be real. Hillary isn't even that dumb.

I tried to find another source for it and couldn't

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Can't be real. Hillary isn't even that dumb.

That site looks like the standard of fact-checking.

 

[RikidyBones]

I feel like you don't understand any of these words

Cool. Good argument.

 

[volinbham]

What's the difference? I'm truly not seeing one

Consider our own revolution - our revolutionaries attacked the ruling government's military to defeat them.

They didn't go to England and terrorize civilians to get policy changed.

Using your definition any act of aggression against a ruling government qualifies as terrorism - even if it comes from another government.

Terrorism is generally associated with direct attacks against civilian populations; not governments.

Insurgency is not the same as terrorism. Terrorism is an approach.

Iraqi's defending their country against us isn't an example of terrorism per se

 

[AirVol]

A better example would be someone jumps your fence, makes himself comfy on the couch, and tells you he lives there now.

Oh and if you complain you're a racist.

The perp will demand him to make him a sammich.

You won't never get an answer from him, he likes to play games and say stupid sh!t without backing it up.