2016 Election Thread Part Deux

[volprof]

Hillary by far on being mentally unbalanced.

This is what I figured you'd say, although I didn't want to put the words in your mouth.

What about Hillary makes you think she is more mentally incompetent than Trump?

 

[Grand Vol]

If only they invented people who could read them and explain them to us. Like on a box with a screen that sends their image to us and we could hear what they say.

If only.

Yes, those kinds are extremely trustworthy to interpret such things.

 

[Grand Vol]

This is what I figured you'd say, although I didn't want to put the words in your mouth.

What about Hillary makes you think she is more mentally incompetent than Trump?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lying

 

[volprof]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lying

I agree that Clinton is a pathological liar.

What about Trump's campaign or personal history, however, makes you think he is not also a pathological liar?

Again, what about Trump makes you Trump voters (I know that neither you nor Hog were Trumpers at the start - which allows me to still respect you - but you both will be voting for Trump in November) think he's more mentally competent than Clinton?

 

[hog88]

This is what I figured you'd say, although I didn't want to put the words in your mouth.

What about Hillary makes you think she is more mentally incompetent than Trump?

Her lack of judgement, bad decisions and inability to come close to telling the truth. Hillary has demonstrated sociopathic behavior for years.

We have plenty of film on Trump throughout the years, both unscripted and scripted. For good or bad Trump has been Trump, basic personality traits haven't changed much.

 

[Grand Vol]

It's easy, VP. Some people have been lying so long in their lives they honestly cannot discern the difference in truth and fiction. And our esteemed Hillary has been lying since she entered politics over 40 years ago and was dismissed from the Watergate hearings for it. Ergo, she lives in a fantasy world where she cannot have any recourse but to lie and very likely cannot tell the difference.

But what does this ignorant hick know anyway?

 

[hog88]

It's easy, VP. Some people have been lying so long in their lives they honestly cannot discern the difference in truth and fiction. And our esteemed Hillary has been lying since she entered politics over 40 years ago and was dismissed from the Watergate hearings for it. Ergo, she lives in a fantasy world where she cannot have any recourse but to lie and very likely cannot tell the difference.

But what does this ignorant hick know anyway?

Mouthbreather!

 

[volprof]

Her lack of judgement, bad decisions and inability to come close to telling the truth. Hillary has demonstrated sociopathic behavior for years.

We have plenty of film on Trump throughout the years, both unscripted and scripted. For good or bad Trump has been Trump, basic personality traits haven't changed much.

Trump has "been Trump." Okay.

What exactly does that mean? Boys will be boys and are allotted being complete lying dumbasses, just because?

I honestly don't know where you're going with this. Makes no sense.

Nothing about the Trump campaign convinces me he is more mentally competent than Clinton. Absolutely nothing. The guy is a complete moron, who acts like an ape on stage. He goes into lunatic rages just because of tweets. He's essentially a Recep Tayypip Erdogan-lite. I'm just waiting on him to talk about how aliens are currently in control of our politicians' bodies.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You guys can minimize Trump's refusal to release his returns all you want. But it is standard to do so. There is obviously something in there that is so embarrassing to him that he'd rather have us speculate about what it is than just show it.

Could be anything. Very low income. Paid an absurdly low rate. Russian money. He's hiding something, that's for sur .

You guys can minimize twat's refusal to release her Goldman Sachs transcripts all you want. But it would put to rest her critics to do so. There is obviously something in there that is so embarrassing to her that she'd rather have us speculate about what it is than just show it. Could be anything. Very low income, with corresponding 'donations' from arab leaders or other government thugs: . Paid off assassins. Russian money. She's hiding something, that's for sur .

I fixed your post to show the original draft of what you really intended to publish.

 

[37L1]

Trump has "been Trump." Okay.

What exactly does that mean? Boys will be boys and are allotted being complete lying dumbasses, just because?

I honestly don't know where you're going with this. Makes no sense.

Nothing about the Trump campaign convinces me he is more mentally competent than Clinton. Absolutely nothing. The guy is a complete moron, who acts like an ape on stage. He goes into lunatic rages just because of tweets. He's essentially a Recep Tayypip Erdogan-lite. I'm just waiting on him to talk about how aliens are currently in control of our politicians' bodies.

I'm thinking one has got to be in control of yours.

 

[hog88]

Trump has "been Trump." Okay.

What exactly does that mean? Boys will be boys and are allotted being complete lying dumbasses, just because?

I honestly don't know where you're going with this. Makes no sense.

Nothing about the Trump campaign convinces me he is more mentally competent than Clinton. Absolutely nothing. The guy is a complete moron, who acts like an ape on stage. He goes into lunatic rages just because of tweets. He's essentially a Recep Tayypip Erdogan-lite. I'm just waiting on him to talk about how aliens are currently in control of our politicians' bodies.

I don't believe Trump is a sociopath, Hillary's behavior leaves no doubt in my mind.

A sociopath can be defined as a person who has Antisocial Personality Disorder. This disorder is characterized by a disregard for the feelings of others, a lack of remorse or shame, manipulative behavior, unchecked egocentricity, and the ability to lie in order to achieve one's goals.

 

[volprof]

It's easy, VP. Some people have been lying so long in their lives they honestly cannot discern the difference in truth and fiction. And our esteemed Hillary has been lying since she entered politics over 40 years ago and was dismissed from the Watergate hearings for it. Ergo, she lives in a fantasy world where she cannot have any recourse but to lie and very likely cannot tell the difference.

But what does this ignorant hick know anyway?

So this is essentially the crux: Immaculate Don - who you know good and well is a complete liar - is not a politician, and Crooked Hillary - a career politician - is.

I guess I just don't demonize public service the way some of you do. There's nothing about Trump's record that makes me think he's going to revolutionize public service.

I just don't get this cognitive disconnect. It seems like you all want a hero, which is understandable, but far too desperately.

 

[volprof]

I don't believe Trump is a sociopath, Hillary's behavior leaves no doubt in my mind.

I don't know if you realize it or not, but that quote accurately described both.

Again, what about Donald Trump evinces mental competence in your mind?

 

[hog88]

So this is essentially the crux: Immaculate Don - who you know good and well is a complete liar - is not a politician, and Crooked Hillary - a career politician - is.

I guess I just don't demonize public service the way some of you do. There's nothing about Trump's record that makes me think he's going to revolutionize public service.

I just don't get this cognitive disconnect. It seems like you all want a hero, which is understandable, but far too desperately.

He absolutely will not, we are in agreement. He will be a terrible POTUS, one so bad that I think he would not run for a second term. I think he will do damage to our country.

I do however believe that he will not use the office for personal enrichment and the advancement of his family and political cronies at the detriment of us. We without question know that Hillary will.

 

[lawgator1]

I fixed your post to show the original draft of what you really intended to publish.

I agree she should release 10 years of transcripts of her speeches. And he should release ten years of his tax returns.

 

[volprof]

He absolutely will not, we are in agreement. He will be a terrible POTUS, one so bad that I think he would not run for a second term. I think he will do damage to our country.

I do however believe that he will not use the office for personal enrichment and the advancement of his family and political cronies at the detriment of us. We without question know that Hillary will.

What about Trump's troubling business endeavors and his connections to Russia - which I'm sure you don't deny - make you think he will not use the office for "personal enrichment"?

The man is a walking ad. What makes you think he has our interests more in mind than Clinton?

 

[hog88]

I agree she should release 10 years of transcripts of her speeches. And he should release ten years of his tax returns.

Might be a problem with those transcripts, No speech ever made. Just any easy way to legally transfer money.

 

[lawgator1]

Might be a problem with those transcripts, No speech ever made. Just any easy way to legally transfer money.

That seems a little far fetched.

 

[hog88]

What about Trump's troubling business endeavors and his connections to Russia - which I'm sure you don't deny - make you think he will not use the office for "personal enrichment"?

The man is a walking ad. What makes you think he has our interests more in mind than Clinton?

I don't think he has our interests in mind. As GV said, he's the dog that caught the car.

As for his "troubling" business endeavors, they don't bother me in the least. He has always made money for his shareholders, that is his number 1 job. (yes I know his is a private not publicly traded company)

His connections to Russia are largely manifestations of your mind and planted their by the outside forces. You want to believe. Many, many US businesses have interests and dealings with Russia.

 

[lawgator1]

I don't think he has our interests in mind. As GV said, he's the dog that caught the car.

As for his "troubling" business endeavors, they don't bother me in the least. He has always made money for his shareholders, that is his number 1 job. (yes I know his is a private not publicly traded company)

His connections to Russia are largely manifestations of your mind and planted their by the outside forces. You want to believe. Many, many US businesses have interests and dealings with Russia.

Do the people running their campaigns have nondisclosed lobbying deals with Russia? Are these people so toxic in their business affairs that they have to fund their future deals with Russian bank money?

Because that's the Donald

 

[hog88]

That seems a little far fetched.

Really? Not 1 damn person in the whole room has ever came forward to discuss her speeches, none made a secret recording? All of them must be loyal supporters huh?

 

[volprof]

I don't think he has our interests in mind. As GV said, he's the dog that caught the car.

As for his "troubling" business endeavors, they don't bother me in the least. He has always made money for his shareholders, that is his number 1 job. (yes I know his is a private not publicly traded company)

His connections to Russia are largely manifestations of your mind and planted their by the outside forces. You want to believe. Many, many US businesses have interests and dealings with Russia.

Yes, but none of them hire Russian agents, like Manafort, along with other self-hating Russian apologists - like Carter Page, Boris Epstheyn (a Russian), Michael Flynn, etc. - to do their bidding. If you disagree with me on this point, then you should see what our intelligence community is saying about Trump. I'm far too kind, quite frankly.

Anyhow, I'm not going to keep running in circles with this, although I do appreciate your candidness and honesty, something often all too lacking with the Trumpers.

I think that, at the end of the day, you just want to believe in a unicorn, despite all evidence, but that's just my opinion.

 

[hog88]

Do the people running their campaigns have nondisclosed lobbying deals with Russia? Are these people so toxic in their business affairs that they have to fund their future deals with Russian bank money?

Because that's the Donald

What's the difference between Russian, Saudi, Chinese or UAE bank money?

 

[hog88]

Yes, but none of them hire Russian agents, like Manafort, along with other self-hating Russian apologists - like Carter Page, Boris Epstheyn (a Russian), Michael Flynn, etc. - to do their bidding. If you disagree with me on this point, then you should see what our intelligence community is saying about Trump. I'm far too kind, quite frankly.

Anyhow, I'm not going to keep running in circles with this, although I do appreciate your candidness and honesty, something often all too lacking with the Trumpers.

I think that, at the end of the day, you just want to believe in a unicorn, despite all evidence, but that's just my opinion.

I don't believe in the unicorn, I just know Hillary will do irreparable harm on a scale Trump could only dream about.

 

[volprof]

I don't believe in the unicorn, I just know Hillary will do irreparable harm on a scale Trump could only dream about.

Are you a gambler, Hog?

Gamblers, the smart ones, at least, would probably tell you otherwise.

Clinton is more of the same. She's not going to change anything.

Trump is a wildcard that no one can even fully anticipate.

You think that more of the same is potentially more harmful than the wild card?

I don't.