2016 DNC Discussion

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Sin City Vol said:
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Orange_Crush said:
You are an intolerant liberal elitist racist hypocrite.

Other than that, have a nice day. :hi:
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Sorry, that was supposed to be in there as well. :hi:
 
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Sin City Vol said:
A lot of jobs today do require a graduate degree. Also not everyone will be getting a free education just those who come from a home of people making less than a certain amount.
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AND, let's be clear on this, neither Bernie or Hillary are proposing a "free" college education. They are proposing "free" tuition.

The average tuition at a 4 year public university is around $9000 per year or $36,000 for a 4 year degree. It's the room and board, books and other fees that bounce that number up since that runs $10,000 to $12,000 per year. No one is talking about "free" in those categories.

Personally, I think a $36,000 investment in your future is fair. It gives you skin in the game.
 
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Yeah, lots of love for old glory there.
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Sorry, but someone said there were no US flags at the convention, dude posted a picture debunking that claim, and this is your response?

Seems like you're attempting to move some goalposts.

Edit: saw that it was from 2012.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Sorry, that was supposed to be in there as well. :hi:
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Ya know man, there's a reason I have gone down this path with a certain demographic. I was back in Tennessee a few weeks ago visiting family and looking into some things regarding work. One night I went out and grabbed a beer at an old stomping ground of mine and ran into some people I knew from back in the day. I sat there for a couple of hours listening to them drop N bombs, complain about Obama and Hillary etc. there were 5 of us sitting there and only 2 of us had jobs and 3 were living off the government at 46 years old. They all were wasted and high as a kite and I really felt sorry for them.

Yea I'm lumping a whole bunch of people into 3 people but I know there are so many others who are exactly the same. It goes the opposite way too.

So am I racist in your eyes?? Maybe but I'm just calling it like I see it.
 
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The gop has 248 house seats, 54 senate seats, and 4/8 SC justices . They keep saying the country is headed in the wrong direction, look who's driving the bus! Hilarious.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Sorry, but someone said there were no US flags at the convention, dude posted a picture debunking that claim, and this is your response?

Seems like you're attempting to move some goalposts.
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I was moving the goalposts back to their original position. Since the dude posted a pic from the previous DNC circa 2012. Look at the picture closely, it's not even close to last night's DNC.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Sorry, but someone said there were no US flags at the convention, dude posted a picture debunking that claim, and this is your response?

Seems like you're attempting to move some goalposts.

Edit: saw that it was from 2012.
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No harm no foul.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
Ya know man, there's a reason I have gone down this path with a certain demographic. I was back in the ghetto a few weeks ago visiting family and looking into some things regarding work. One night I went out and grabbed a beer at an old stomping ground of mine and ran into some people I knew from back in the day. I sat there for a couple of hours listening to them drop Cracker-bombs, complain about Trump and Sarah etc. there were 5 of us sitting there and only 2 of us had jobs and 3 were living off the government at 46 years old. They all were wasted and high as a kite and I really felt sorry for them.

Yea I'm lumping a whole bunch of people into 3 people but I know there are so many others who are exactly the same. It goes the opposite way too.

So am I racist in your eyes?? Maybe but I'm just calling it like I see it.
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Works the same way from either side.. You lambast the people that disagree with you. You call them racist for their beliefs. Elitist for their beliefs. You claim they paint with too broad a brush.

But you have all the excuses in the world for why it's OK for you to do it.

I take little issue with what you posted. I thought the picture was hillarious--especially considering that I'm a libertarian, and not a Republican. Definitely not a Trump supporter. I'm a well educated corporate professional, so you didn't step on my toes.

But you have one standard for everyone else that you'll hold them to with no grace, empathy, insight or desire to see their perspective. You are an attack dog against all of your perceived injustices.

But, even though you are exactly what they are, you're not in your own eyes because you think that you're justified in doing it.

You are. Not them. Even though you are them.

I couldn't care less that you're a racist. I couldn't care less that you're an elitist. I'm just pointing out that you are a hypocrite.
 
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hog88 said:
AND, let's be clear on this, neither Bernie or Hillary are proposing a "free" college education. They are proposing "free" tuition.

The average tuition at a 4 year public university is around $9000 per year or $36,000 for a 4 year degree. It's the room and board, books and other fees that bounce that number up since that runs $10,000 to $12,000 per year. No one is talking about "free" in those categories.

Personally, I think a $36,000 investment in your future is fair. It gives you skin in the game.
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I can't believe that people think everyone should just "deserve" to go to college. We are graduating plenty of high school students that can hardly write a coherent sentence or perform basic math operations. You think we should shell out tens of billions of dollars a year for them to go to college? Do you think they will succeed there, when high school was already kicking their butts?

Truth is: college isn't right for a lot of people. A huge chunk of our youth doesn't care that much about their education and doesn't put forth the effort required to learn. Plenty of professions don't require a 4-year degree, and there are some that do that shouldn't -- where a tech school or apprenticeship would be more appropriate.
 
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orangeluvr said:
The gop has disrespected the office of president for the past 8 years. Don't like a man, at the least respect the office he holds. :question:
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There may be no better respect for an office than to hold a standard for the activities of the man who holds that office.

Oh, and you're diverting from the claimed fact that he is the most divisive president in modern history.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I can't believe that people think everyone should just "deserve" to go to college. We are graduating plenty of high school students that can hardly write a coherent sentence or perform basic math operations. You think we should shell out tens of billions of dollars a year for them to go to college? Do you think they will succeed there, when high school was already kicking their butts?

Truth is: college isn't right for a lot of people. A huge chunk of our youth doesn't care that much about their education and doesn't put forth the effort required to learn. Plenty of professions don't require a 4-year degree, and there are some that do that shouldn't -- where a tech school or apprenticeship would be more appropriate.
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You may be on to something. We could make college incredibly cheap by not making anyone attend. We could just give everyone a degree/diploma, kind of like the participation trophies they are used to in kids' sports. It will only cost copier fees and a stamp.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You may be on to something. We could make college incredibly cheap by not making anyone attend. We could just give everyone a degree/diploma, kind of like the participation trophies they are used to in kids' sports. It will only cost copier fees and a stamp.
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:eek:lol: Exactly.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
It already collapsed once under Bush, that's not Obama's fault
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Any idea why it crashed or what the policies were that caused itand when they were implemented? Of course not..... Step 1 Blame Bush.....Step 2 Play race card.....Step 3 Blame Bush

Straight out of the liberal democrat playbook
 
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