2015 NBA Playoff Thread

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#3,676
BadJerry20 said:
Beer...and I'm sure that whole Pistons team would say that. Especially Bill since he orchestrated the whole "walk off the court" thing.
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Isiah orchestrated that actually. He took blame so people laid off Isiah.
 
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#3,678
BadJerry20 said:
Rodman and Zeke on Larry.
/discussion
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The comparison isn't valid.

Rodman and Zeke said something 5 minutes after the Celtics had bested them yet again. They weren't thinking about legacy. They were in the moment. You've even implied that Zeke didn't mean it.

Laimbeer is saying something calculated, 24 years after mostly besting MJ.
 
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The thought that players think about their legacy when they answer these questions is ridiculous. MJ being the GOAT or not doesn't enhance Bills career. I never implied that, I informed you of what really happened.

Does Bill saying this mean anything really? Except maybe hes still holding A grudge. Wes Matthews said yesterday he would take MJ, who cares?
 
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#3,680
BadJerry20 said:
The thought that players think about their legacy when they answer these questions is ridiculous. MJ being the GOAT or not doesn't enhance Bills career. I never implied that, I informed you of what really happened.

Does Bill saying this mean anything really? Except maybe hes still holding A grudge. Wes Matthews said yesterday he would take MJ, who cares?
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How does it not?

No, so I don't understand why everyone is so threatened by it and trying to discredit him.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
So MJ being the GOAT or not changes your perception of how good Laimbeer was?
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Yes. If MJ is GOAT, than Laimbeer clobbering him 3 times on his way to 2 championships is more meaningful than if Jordan was just the best 2 ever.
 
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#3,684
Laimbeer was a center. Dumars handled MJ. The only reason there aren't 30 posters of Laimbeer getting dunked on by MJ like every other center was because Mj knew he'd get a punch in the nuts.
 
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#3,685
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n_huffhines said:
Yes. If MJ is GOAT, than Laimbeer clobbering him 3 times on his way to 2 championships is more meaningful than if Jordan was just the best 2 ever.
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You are easily influenced then. I'm willing to bet nobody else in this forum read that comment, and thought "well damn Laimbeer is not as good as I thought he was." Honestly I think you are lying.
 
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#3,686
BadJerry20 said:
You are easily influenced then. I'm willing to bet nobody else in this forum read that comment, and thought "well damn Laimbeer is not as good as I thought he was." Honestly I think you are lying.
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WTF? When did I say it influenced how I evaluate him as a player?

Legacy and actual play are two very different things.
 
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#3,687
n_huffhines said:
WTF? When did I say it influenced how I evaluate him as a player?

Legacy and actual play are two very different things.
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Ok nobody read that comment and thought, "Laimbeers legacy is worse than I thought" Better princess?

You are still easily influenced. Of course I knew that as you were a Kobe fan till numbers told you not to be.
 
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#3,688
BadJerry20 said:
Ok nobody read that comment and thought, "Laimbeers legacy is worse than I thought" Better princess?

You are still easily influenced. Of course I knew that as you were a Kobe fan till numbers told you not to be.
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You're usually calling me stubborn.

I was a Kobe fan because I wasn't yet a Jazz fan. I stopped liking Kobe when I adopted the Jazz (the year Malone left). I still thought he was really good, but he became a collossal douche in my mind. Stats just convinced me he was overrated.
 
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#3,689
It's funny, I actually hated Shaq back in the day. Now I love him and wish I would have appreciated him more when he was in his prime.
 
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#3,691
n_huffhines said:
You're usually calling me stubborn.

I was a Kobe fan because I wasn't yet a Jazz fan. I stopped liking Kobe when I adopted the Jazz (the year Malone left). I still thought he was really good, but he became a collossal douche in my mind. Stats just convinced me he was overrated.
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I'm stubborn cause I said something twice? Lol

That's not why you said you stopped liking Kobe, but ok. You like players because numbers tell you to, I don't judge. :)
 
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#3,692
BadJerry20 said:
I'm stubborn cause I said something twice? Lol

That's not why you said you stopped liking Kobe, but ok. You like players because numbers tell you to, I don't judge. :)
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I didn't call you stubborn. Your reading comprehension is 70% of the problem.
 
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No offense Huff, but it never took reading a stats sheet, much less advanced stats to figure out Shaq was a dominant player and Kobe was an innefecient chucker.
 
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#3,696
apevol said:
No offense Huff, but it never took reading a stats sheet, much less advanced stats to figure out Shaq was a dominant player and Kobe was an innefecient chucker.
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Why are you saying this? I never would have argued that Shaq wasn't dominant. Even when I despised him, I would have said he was clearly the best center in the league.

Not sure what your point is about Kobe. Almost everyone in the establishment would agree that his scoring ability is his strongest attribute, and advanced metrics say that he wasn't that great of a scorer, so....you do kinda need advanced stats to put his scoring ability in perspective. It's like you're saying everyone agrees he was a modest scorer.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Why are you saying this? I never would have argued that Shaq wasn't dominant. Even when I despised him, I would have said he was clearly the best center in the league.

Not sure what your point is about Kobe. Almost everyone in the establishment would agree that his scoring ability is his strongest attribute, and advanced metrics say that he wasn't that great of a scorer, so....you do kinda need advanced stats to put his scoring ability in perspective. It's like you're saying everyone agrees he was a modest scorer.
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Anyone with eyes could watch him bricking contested 25 foot shots over and over.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
"The Establishment" comments always crack me up for some reason. Fight the power Huff.
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Pretty sure it's the word Billy Beane uses to talk about the general baseball brain trusts that oppose him. Been a while since I read Moneyball.
 
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