2015 NBA Playoff Thread

#3,102
#3,102
I don't blame McHale for letting them go, but as soon as Harden passed out of the double team to Howard 30' from the basket, McHale should have called TO. It was clearly going nowhere, with about 3 seconds to work with.
 
#3,103
#3,103
n_huffhines said:
I don't blame McHale for letting them go, but as soon as Harden passed out of the double team to Howard 30' from the basket, McHale should have called TO. It was clearly going nowhere, with about 3 seconds to work with.
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I can't believe that an old school player like him coaches a team that plays the style Houston does.
 
#3,105
#3,105
GAVol said:
This sounds really serious for Harden...

Rapper Lil B says James Harden stole his 'cooking' motion, could be cursed - SportsNation - ESPN
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That music though. :mf_surrender:

I'm gonna assume that the emoticon(mf_surrender) stands for, "muhf'er, I surrender!". I don't know what that music during the video was but after that, I listened to 30 seconds of a lil b sing about wonton soup as someone continually said "whoop" throughout the song. And now I'm right back to... :mf_surrender:

Kevin Durant gets it.
 
#3,106
#3,106
n_huffhines said:
I don't blame McHale for letting them go, but as soon as Harden passed out of the double team to Howard 30' from the basket, McHale should have called TO. It was clearly going nowhere, with about 3 seconds to work with.
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I agree, Harden grabbing the board and pushing it while the Warriors scramble to get back is usually a good thing. But Klay and Steph did a great job and stopping him and forcing the ball out of his hands, have to call a T.O. at that point.
 
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#3,107
MphsBlues said:
You can just become what is your destiny - a Grizzzzzz fan.
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Your quoting the successful cult following movie Office Space. Shocking to see The actor well known Brady father play a ahole.

I am amazed at the rockets blowing it in the final seconds. Not even a damn air ball as shot the ball didnt happen.

A qb could hold the ball to long with getting tackled this seem like the nba version of that as Harden was looking for the perfect shot, and time ran out.

I'll be eating chicago style pizza tonight while watching the hawks cavs game 2. Be funny to see the hawks blow in the first 2 games in their own damn building.
 
#3,108
#3,108
Irving is out.


If Hawks don't win tonight, they have virtually no chance of winning the series.
 
#3,109
#3,109
I remember thinking cavs had a chance when the hawks and the clippers looked like garbage and memphis lost to GS
 
#3,112
#3,112
This series:

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#3,113
#3,113
n_huffhines said:
You're in over your head trying to talk about sample sizes, and maybe even hoops. After all, you are the Hawks fan who said they can't be a contender with Horford as their best player.
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Let me know when you'd like to revisit this. I look forward to hearing about how the Hawks are a legitimate contender.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Let me know when you'd like to revisit this. I look forward to hearing about how the Hawks are a legitimate contender.
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Teague, Schroeder and Millsap have been horribly inefficient. Horford and Korver's TS% has declined a lot, too (Korver is still efficient).

Even in a weak conference, I don't know how you make the ECF shooting that poorly when your team relied on strong shooting all year.

Cleveland, Houston, and GS are in the top 4 of playoff teams in points per shot. Atlanta is 12th in the postseason. 12th. They were 4th in PPS during the regular season.

Did you know they were gonna start missing everything, all of a sudden? 32% from 3.
 
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#3,117
VolsSportsFan said:
There's no "virtually" about it.
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If I said it's definitely over, someone else would have said something about it. It's impossible to make a comment that pleases everyone so I try to leave some possibility open as everyone has their own take. I was going to say the series is over if the Hawks lose with Irving/JR out and Carroll back but somebody would have just pointed to other series where a team came back from 2 games down.

Anyways, I don't think the Hawks stand a chance at this point. I didn't believe in the Hawks chances to begin with until Irving got hurt. Then I thought 50/50 if Irving were to end up missing the series. After last night, I have zero belief in the them. Hawks aren't catching fire like they did earlier in the season so I have no faith in them doing it at this point. I'm hopeful but they're like the Pacers of last year and peaked too early while slumping at the end(finished 7-8 in last 15). Like the Pacers, their road will end at the hands of Lebron barring an onslaught of 3's. Cavs had more quality players than the Heat had but the Heat were a better team than the Cavs are at this point(young team, love out). Same result

On the flip side, it's going to be the same result for Lebron in the finals as last year. I said if Irving continues having injury issues that the Cavs have no chance against the Warriors(or Rockets). What I didn't say is, I'm not even sure the Cavs have much of a chance even with Kyrie imo. Definitely no chance without though.
 
#3,118
#3,118
n_huffhines said:
Teague, Schroeder and Millsap have been horribly inefficient. Horford and Korver's TS% has declined a lot, too (Korver is still efficient).

Even in a weak conference, I don't know how you make the ECF shooting that poorly when your team relied on strong shooting all year.

Cleveland, Houston, and GS are in the top 4 of playoff teams in points per shot. Atlanta is 12th in the postseason. 12th. They were 4th in PPS during the regular season.

Did you know they were gonna start missing everything, all of a sudden? 32% from 3.
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I certainly expected all those open catch-and-shoot looks that the Hawks enjoyed during the regular season to evaporate during the playoffs, especially for Korver. It's not a surprise and it's not bad luck. Hawks fans have been talking about it for months.
 
#3,119
#3,119
Vercingetorix said:
I certainly expected all those open catch-and-shoot looks that the Hawks enjoyed during the regular season to evaporate during the playoffs, especially for Korver. It's not a surprise and it's not bad luck. Hawks fans have been talking about it for months.
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Sounds like your theory is good shots are hard to come by in the playoffs...

Playoffs vs Regular Season, PPS
Houston = +0.05
Washington = +0.01
Golden St = -0.01
Cleveland = -0.01
LAC = -0.01
Memphis = -0.06
Chicago = -0.07

Atlanta = -0.12

So why is Atlanta the outlier? Seems like a pretty normal distribution, with teams scoring basically just as efficiently in the playoffs as in the regular season.

Is Budenholzer a crap coach? Are the players idiots? What is the actual explanation, if it's not bad luck?

The best explanation IMO is still that they simply have missed their shots. They have been getting open 3s. I've watched almost every minute the last 2 rounds.
 
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#3,120
#3,120
FWIW, Atlanta shot .563 TS% this year. 3rd in the league. They shot less than .520 (that would put them at about 23rd in the league) in both December and January.

That's a worse slump than they are currently in (shooting .522 in playoffs). It happens.
 
#3,121
#3,121
n_huffhines said:
Sounds like your theory is good shots are hard to come by in the playoffs...
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No, my theory was that the Atlanta offense revolved around the shooting of (and the spacing created by) Kyle Korver, and I wondered if the Hawks would be able to adapt in the playoffs once opposing teams just clamped down hard on Korver every night. And obviously they haven't had an answer for it. It's a real problem when the most important offensive player on your team is helpless to create his own shot.
 
#3,122
#3,122
Maybe, I don't know, it's harder to get shots in the playoffs when you don't have a true creator on the team?

I could be crazy though.
 
#3,123
#3,123
These playoffs have been riddled with injuries. I've never seen anything like it. GSW will win it all because they're the only team healthy.
 
#3,124
#3,124
GahLee said:
These playoffs have been riddled with injuries. I've never seen anything like it. GSW will win it all because they're the only team healthy.
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Of the teams that made the semis, only GS is the one that hasn't lost a starter to missed games.
 
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