2015 NBA Finals Thread

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VolsSportsFan said:
Which ones you disputing?
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Probably about every other foul against the Warriors.

The last foul on Lebron wasn't much of a foul. That's a foul if you're calling everything but they're obviously not calling everything or one team wouldn't be about to head into the half with 2 free throw attempts total.

I've seen the Warriors get hacked but nothing in return. To be fair, I've seen the Warriors get away with fouls but they're still getting called for fouls that aren't sometimes. I'll just leave it at that I don't think it should be 19-2 as far as disparity goes.

Did you see the ball go off Shumpert and refs just gave it to the Cavs anyways without caring. Sums up a lot of their calls/non-calls tonight.
 
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govols1864 said:
Warriors are living on jump shots off pick and rolls. Cavs are throwing it into the paint every trip.
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They're taking some jump shots but they're driving a lot too. I've seen Iggy, Draymond and Curry combine for probably 10 drives just between the 3.
 
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If you think Cleveland has received any help this series from officiating I don't know what to tell you
 
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zjcvols said:
If you think Cleveland has received any help this series from officiating I don't know what to tell you
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Who said anything about this series. Look at this game, it's a blowout if not for 21 free throws to 4 free throws. Warriors have 3 times as many assists and half the turnovers. Actually, two of their turnovers were calls on Draymond traveling. When do the refs call Lebron on traveling? He probably does it 5 times a game on average. And the ball going off Shumpert at midcourt lool. The refs didn't even bother looking at a replay when the only person it could have touched was Shumpert.
 
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TOP said:
Who said anything about this series. Look at this game, it's a blowout if not for 21 free throws to 4 free throws. Warriors have 3 times as many assists and half the turnovers. Actually, two of their turnovers were calls on Draymond traveling. When do the refs call Lebron on traveling? He probably does it 5 times a game on average. And the ball going off Shumpert at midcourt lool. The refs didn't even bother looking at a replay when the only person it could have touched was Shumpert.
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They actually have called Bron for traveling in this series. And again GS is settling for jumpers. Cleveland isn't. And if you knew the rules you would know despite a horrible call they can't review that.
 
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zjcvols said:
They actually have called Bron for traveling in this series. And again GS is settling for jumpers. Cleveland isn't. And if you knew the rules you would know despite a horrible call they can't review that.
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Since when can't they review who the ball went off of?
 
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zjcvols said:
They actually have called Bron for traveling in this series. And again GS is settling for jumpers. Cleveland isn't. And if you knew the rules you would know despite a horrible call they can't review that.
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They haven't called a hold or grab on Cleveland when curry or Thompson are coming off screens.

Moving screens are not being called on both sides.
 
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volinreallife said:
They haven't called a hold or grab on Cleveland when curry or Thompson are coming off screens.

Moving screens are not being called on both sides.
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Well they haven't called a moving screen so fair to me.

Also Curry and Thompson are kings of holding the arms then trying to claim they are being grabbed
 
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zjcvols said:
Can't review till final two minutes
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Can you find that rule listed somewhere?

It sounds like something that would exist but I swear I see reviews in the middle of quarters. So, maybe I have lost my mind but I thought refs look at it even in the middle of the quarter. I know in football the refs will look in the last 2 minutes. I'm struggling to believe with as much instant replay as we're shown every game, it's only in the final two mintues they care who the ball goes off of. I thought they always cared. What a terrible system if you're right.
 
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The way LeBron is playing so far is exactly what the haters talk about. He needs to take over. He has Harrison freaking Barnes guarding him.
 
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TOP said:
Can you find that rule listed somewhere?

It sounds like something that would exist but I swear I see reviews in the middle of quarters. So, maybe I have lost my mind but I thought refs look at it even in the middle of the quarter. I know in football the refs will look in the last 2 minutes. I'm struggling to believe with as much instant replay as we're shown every game, it's only in the final two mintues they care who the ball goes off of. I thought they always cared. What a terrible system if you're right.
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Only review is three point shot during the course of a game or flagrant fouls
 
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zjcvols said:
Only review is three point shot during the course of a game or flagrant fouls
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Since the 2009-10 season, referees have reviewed any out-of-bounds play that occurs in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter and during overtime when they are not reasonably certain as to which player caused the ball to go out-of-bounds.

Referees can only initiate a review on a called out-of-bounds play (for example, not one where an out-of-bounds might have occurred) and only those involving doubt as to which player caused the ball to go out (not those, for example, where a player stepped on the line).

In addition to determining which player caused the ball to go out-of-bounds, referees also look to confirm whether:

The game clock expired before the ball went out-of-bounds or the amount of time to put on the clock,
A 24-second violation occurred before the ball went out-of-bounds,
An 8-second backcourt violation occurred before the ball went out of bounds, or
Any unsportsmanlike acts or unnecessary contact occurred.
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It says they do it every play in the final 2 minutes of the 4th quarter but to me, that says they can review it at any time during the game if they have doubts. We watched them go watch the replay who it was off of in the 1st or 2nd quarter of this game already. Maybe I'm reading it wrong as I'm trying my hardest to get drunk. But I swear refs can go look whenever they think it could have been off someone else. I feel like we saw it 10 times a game through out and not just the final 2 minutes. But, I don't know. That's just going by the fact I feel like I see them do it any time there is doubt.

I'll just save myself the trouble and assume the 2 minutes at the beginning applies to everything else said. Idk why I feel like I see it in the middle of quarters then.
 
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TOP said:
It says they do it every play in the final 2 minutes of the 4th quarter but to me, that says they can review it at any time during the game if they have doubts. We watched them go watch the replay who it was off of in the 1st or 2nd quarter of this game already. Maybe I'm reading it wrong as I'm trying my hardest to get drunk. But I swear refs can go look whenever they think it could have been off someone else. I feel like we saw it 10 times a game through out and not just the final 2 minutes. But, I don't know. That's just going by the fact I feel like I see them do it any time there is doubt.

I'll just save myself the trouble and assume the 2 minutes at the beginning applies to everything else said. Idk why I feel like I see it in the middle of quarters then.
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Me too
 
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volinreallife said:
Me too
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I think they do, do it every quarter regardless of the time to get the call right.

I feel like they're saying they'll do it for every out bounds play as long as it's the 4th quarter though with 2 minutes but that the ref can choose to at any point during the game also. I swear we watched them review who it was off of once or twice tonight in the 1st or 2nd quarter lol.

I'm being told that's not correct so I question myself now.
 
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