2014 NBA Mock Draft

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#276
K-town Vol Fan said:
Lmao Kyle Anderson at #5.

So insightful.
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This makes no sense as an argument. You are saying because no team took him until 30, I'm clearly wrong about selecting him? First of all, in the real world I would have traded back and got my 3 favorite players and probably a 1st round pick next year: Payton, Anderson, and Stokes (not necessarily best 3, but all in best 8 and available at positions of need).

It's possible that none of those players work out, just like it's possible that Exum and Hood don't work out, but I like my 3 a lot better than their 2. I have little hope for Hood, but he could work out.

Teams and GMs are wrong all the freaking time. We have to wait and see on my picks.
 
#277
#277
n_huffhines said:
This makes no sense as an argument. You are saying because no team took him until 30, I'm clearly wrong about selecting him? First of all, in the real world I would have traded back and got my 3 favorite players and probably a 1st round pick next year: Payton, Anderson, and Stokes (not necessarily best 3, but all in best 8 and available at positions of need).

It's possible that none of those players work out, just like it's possible that Exum and Hood don't work out, but I like my 3 a lot better than their 2. I have little hope for Hood, but he could work out.

Teams and GMs are wrong all the freaking time. We have to wait and see on my picks.
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Yep.

The Ultimate Crapshoot «
 
#278
#278
I think Hood will suck. I do hate the GMs are wrong argument, of course they are just like analytics guys would be if they done the whole draft.
 
#279
#279
That's a cool article. I completely disagree with him on a lot (like that MCW should have been #1) but it does a perfect job of illustrating just how bad they are at picking. Look at 2011....only 3 top 10 picks remain in his top 12.
 
#280
#280
BadJerry20 said:
I think Hood will suck. I do hate the GMs are wrong argument, of course they are just like analytics guys would be if they done the whole draft.
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Well, I guess it depends on how you measure success, but by the wins produced model the stats have about a 70% success rate with lottery picks, and GMs have about a 40% success rate.
 
#281
#281
n_huffhines said:
That's a cool article. I completely disagree with him on a lot (like that MCW should have been #1) but it does a perfect job of illustrating just how bad they are at picking. Look at 2011....only 3 top 10 picks remain in his top 12.
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Reading it brought back horrible memories of Billy Knight for me. But seeing so many other poor selections by other teams numbed the pain a little bit.
 
#284
#284
BadJerry20 said:
It's still a pointless, "well no ****" argument.
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Maybe, but I don't think there is enough disagreement between what wins produced measures as success and what a GM would measure as a success, so I'd say the 30% margin of difference is fairly valid.

For instance, most may not agree with advanced stats on just how good T Hansborough is, but when you consider all the complete busts that come before pick #13, you'd have to say he's been a successful lottery pick, right? I tried to pick a player that is on the margin, to illustrate this point in a more agreeable fashion.

When we disagree about players it's rarely an instance where you say he sucks and I think he's good. Usually it's I think he's good and you think he's a superstar, or vice versa. So if we're just talking pass or fail grades, it's going to be pretty similar.
 
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