2014 HOF Inductees

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Congratulations to Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and Frank Thomas, three of my absolute favorite players growing up and into my early adulthood. Going to be a fun day in Cooperstown this summer when they enter the hallowed halls. Slam Dunk on all three and I think it's a shame that Biggio has to wait yet another year, but at least it appears he'll definitely make it in.
 
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Shame of the idiocy in this whole process is that it does distract from celebrating such an awesome class of inductees.
 
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Should Maddux wear a cubs or braves hat on the plaque?

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Good group. One of my best sports memories in general was getting to see Ken Griffey Jr and Frank Thomas in the King Dome at 9 or 10 years old. HRs were involved.
 
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Love this group, and I don't understand how Maddux wasn't unanimous. Maddux should go in as a Brave. He won a title there, and I would guess there are fewer Braves in the Hall.

I think Biggio should have got in, too.

I loved Frank Thomas. Played with his shoes in the 8th grade and thought I was the ish (it was the first time my Dad had ever splurged and got me cool gear of any kind).

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I think the chances of Maddux going in as a Cubbie are about as good as Thomas going in as an Athletic.
 
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These were three if my favorite players growing up as well. I have 300 plus Frank Thomas cards in my card collection. Had the shoes, posters, etc. the best overall hitter of his generation IMO.

I have a hard time understanding why Piazza, Bagwell, and Edgar Martinez have such a hard time garnering support. Piazza is the best offensive catcher to ever play the game. Bagwell hit over 400 HRs, won ROY, gold glove, silver slugger, MVP, and multiple time all star. Martinez put up gaudy numbers, very comparable to Thomas. He seems to get punished for being a DH for most of his career. He was a pretty good 3Bmen before injuries.
 
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These were three if my favorite players growing up as well. I have 300 plus Frank Thomas cards in my card collection. Had the shoes, posters, etc. the best overall hitter of his generation IMO.

I have a hard time understanding why Piazza, Bagwell, and Edgar Martinez have such a hard time garnering support. Piazza is the best offensive catcher to ever play the game. Bagwell hit over 400 HRs, won ROY, gold glove, silver slugger, MVP, and multiple time all star. Martinez put up gaudy numbers, very comparable to Thomas. He seems to get punished for being a DH for most of his career. He was a pretty good 3Bmen before injuries.

I don't understand why many still argue that Biggio doesn't deserve it.
 
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I don't understand why many still argue that Biggio doesn't deserve it.

I rank him as a good stat compiler, a good player who I'd love on my team, but he's simply not a HoF'r in my book. He was an above average to good ballplayer for a long time, but never great.
 
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I agree. I just left him off my list bc with him coming up two votes shy this year, surely he gets in next year.

He was very good, but I just don't see how he gets in while guys like Rice, Raines, Murphy and Mattingly wait.
 
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He was very good, but I just don't see how he gets in while guys like Rice, Raines, Murphy and Mattingly wait.

I agree with that, but they should all be in.

If there is one thing I could change about baseball, it'd be putting Murphy in the HOF. He was possibly the best offensive player in the 80s in the NL. It makes no sense that he's not in. If he had played on competitive teams, he'd be in, no question.
 
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So say Mattingly is a good manager for a while...do you have to have a HOF management career to get in, or do they look at body of work as player and a coach?
 
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Love this.

Totally helpless feeling facing Greg Maddux - ESPN

But with Maddux that was not my barometer of respect. Mine was when I knew he at least spent more than five seconds on my scouting report. This was evident because one game when I was leading off, I put my head down as I got set up in the box. This was part of my leadoff ritual. This time, when I looked up, the pitch was halfway home. Strike one. He had noticed after many games that when I started off the game, I looked down at the ground so I was giving him a free "strike one" if he could just lay it in there. From that day forth, I had to get in the box with one eye on him. He took me out of my routine for the rest of my at-bats against him from using patterns against you. He found something to exploit. Game. Set. Match.
 
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He was very good, but I just don't see how he gets in while guys like Rice, Raines, Murphy and Mattingly wait.

I respect your opinion and those guys are great. However, IMO, what gets Biggio in before those guys is the fact he has 3000 hits and has won multiple gold gloves. Shows he was a great all around player. To me, 3000 hits (barring PED use) is an automatic ticket to Cooperstown.

Now some folks argue he was just a compiler. So was Hank Aaron. It took him 23 years to get to 755. He had many years of hitting 30 or less HRs. That doesn't take from what he did to me, so I wouldn't discount Biggios 3000 hits.
 

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