2012 Vandy vs UT = 2016 UT vs UF?

[zidanefan]

A few weeks too early, but this has been in the back of my mind since I read the quote last season. McElwain's response after last years game was:

"You just don't lose to Tennessee," Florida first-year coach Jim McElwain said of UF's vast psychological advantage when playing the Vols.

Source: Gators once again turn Rocky Top into Rocky Bottom - Orlando Sentinel

Of course, we all remember Dooley's locker room comments after the Vols OT win against Vandy in 2011 - Tennessee always "kicks the $#@! out of Vandy." The next season Franklin embarrassed us in Nashville.

Personally, I struggle to get on board with a win given the recent history of giving the game away to FL, but I'm curious as to how many people think the parallel here has any relevance.

Do McElwain's comments last season (and the ones from this offseason) provide "bulletin board" material for the Vols? Or does this purely come down to UT getting over the mental hurdle that is the UF game?

Bumping this for FL week:

The question I'm curious about is whether VN thinks that "bulletin board material" will make a difference here for extra fire and motivation, or whether at this is entirely a mental hurdle to overcome for players and coaches.

Boiled down:

motivation to play harder vs. belief they can actually win

 

[Ron Swanson]

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[Volnut67]

No Tennessee will beat Florida 23-17 in Neyland

 

[Iam4utalways]

Our players put in the work to be the best they can be, not based of what Ole Butter Teeth said.

 

[kentucky sucks]

Our players put in the work to be the best they can be, not based of what Ole Butter Teeth said.

I love calling that bum Ole Butter Teeth.

 

[UT Hill Man]

Being compared to Vandy never helped any team win a game.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

McElwain had this to say after the game:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgbVZvshimg[/youtube]

 

[ALGator]

A few weeks too early, but this has been in the back of my mind since I read the quote last season. McElwain's response after last years game was:



Source: Gators once again turn Rocky Top into Rocky Bottom - Orlando Sentinel

Of course, we all remember Dooley's locker room comments after the Vols OT win against Vandy in 2011 - Tennessee always "kicks the $#@! out of Vandy." The next season Franklin embarrassed us in Nashville.

Personally, I struggle to get on board with a win given the recent history of giving the game away to FL, but I'm curious as to how many people think the parallel here has any relevance.

Do McElwain's comments last season (and the ones from this offseason) provide "bulletin board" material for the Vols? Or does this purely come down to UT getting over the mental hurdle that is the UF game?

Yep. This seals it, then. Flurdah's doomed.

 

[MAD]

Until proven otherwise we have become Florida's Kentucky.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Until proven otherwise we have become Florida's Kentucky.

Florida's Kentucky is still Kentucky, we're just 1/3 of the way there lol

 

[Jax_Vol]

McElwain had this to say after the game:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgbVZvshimg[/youtube]

Someone has been working with him to polish up his interview skills. That one is the most intelligent thing he has ever brayed.

 

[ptcarter]

Until proven otherwise we have become Florida's Kentucky.

This nightmare needs to end.

 

[KBVol]

Muschamp talked all kinds of smack after the 2014 10-9 win vs Tennessee in Neyland.....didn't do anything to affect the 2015 outcome.

 

[Bvols48]

Don't know how the rest of VN fells but I think the Gator game has had a lot to do with how the team has played in the first two games. I think it is more on coaches and player's mind than they are saying. Get past the Gators I feel we will see a different team. GBO

 

[KBVol]

Until proven otherwise we have become Florida's Kentucky.

Tennessee is to Florida what Vanderbilt is to Tennessee.

 

[checkerboards09]

Tennessee is to Florida what Vanderbilt is to Tennessee.

Not really. The overall series record says otherwise. We're nobody's Vandy.

 

[GBO97]

McElwain is a much better coach than Dooley. Quite possibly CBJ as well.

 

[joevol33]

Florida will lose, period.

 

[KBVol]

Not really. The overall series record says otherwise. We're nobody's Vandy.

You sure?

Last 11 seasons, since 2005....

Tennessee vs Vandy- 8-3
Tennessee vs Florida- 0-11
Vandy vs Florida- 1-10

Last 30 games vs Florida....

Tennessee 6-24
Vandy 4-26

What's the difference?? When Florida plays either one of us, they win 80%+ of the time.

 

[Northern Vol Fan]

You sure?

Last 11 seasons, since 2005....

Tennessee vs Vandy- 8-3
Tennessee vs Florida- 0-11
Vandy vs Florida- 1-10

Last 30 games vs Florida....

Tennessee 6-24
Vandy 4-26

What's the difference?? When Florida plays either one of us, they win 80%+ of the time.

It's true. It makes me sick, but it's true. :sick:

 

[praxite33]

2016 UT vs Florida = 2016 UT vs Florida

This game is this game. Last year nor the ten years prior holds any bearing on this game. No other game has any effect on next Saturday. #wgwtfa!

 

[KBVol]

It's true. It makes me sick, but it's true. :sick:

I'm nauseated just typing it.

 

[YankeeVol]

Until proven otherwise we have become Florida's Kentucky.

I don't think we lose 29 straight times (or is it 30 now?)

 

[UTK]

Imo. We either blow UF out or we lose a close game. I do NOT trust us to win a close game vs Florida. lol

 

[wtmvol]

This analogy is based on a false premise.

2012 Tennessee by the time we got to the Vandy game had essentially quit. You had an extremely motivated Vanderbilt team having a good season against a team with bad leadership and a worse defense that had quit on their coach.

2016 Florida has obviously not quit on their coach. They are extremely talented as always. If things go our way, I'd compare it to '95 Bama, not the reverse of '12 Vandy.