2012 Tennessee Volunteer Football: Shockin' Y'all Campaign

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Great2BeATnVOL said:
Honestly, how can you sink money into a program that you're undermining by not giving the coach a fair shake??? Do you not get that after Kiffin left---nobody wanted to come to UT. I always ask anti-Dooley ass hats----what is your solution. Who is going to come riding in on a white horse that fits your uber-mensche classification??? Saban?
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You need to go to gamecock land buddy, how in the hell can you have that on there when they are in the east?!?

Please leave you gonna get alot of people hot in here :eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Call me a negavol I don't care I've said it many times im on the fence about dooley. Buts its people like you who give the big time dooley supporters a bad name, delusional fans like you are retarted.
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And negavol fans like you are any better? If we got some positive thinking in here, it would do wonders for recruiting......I'm sure the negativity from clowns like you had nothing to do with coaches jumping ship and causing us to lose guys like Peters....
 
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Great2BeATnVOL said:
Honestly, how can you sink money into a program that you're undermining by not giving the coach a fair shake??? Do you not get that after Kiffin left---nobody wanted to come to UT. I always ask anti-Dooley ass hats----what is your solution. Who is going to come riding in on a white horse that fits your uber-mensche classification??? Saban?
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I give money and time because I believe in what the University and Athletic Department subsequently stands for. Their history, passion, and enthusiasm for representing what it means to be a Tennessean is something I truly believe in.

The moment I saw Derek Dooley let his team quit on the field, and then continue to let them finish it out, I knew he wasn't our answer. It's that simple. I would have had more respect for him if he went on the field and dragged their asses to the bench and let some kids who wanted to give it their all get out on the field. If we lost, so what, at least they tried.

I respect that so much more than a quitter.

Then again, why would I expect a Gamecock to understand this?
 
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Cheese Donkey said:
It's time.

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Several years ago, an elementary school here in upstate SC put out a yearbook. In several pictures scattered throughout the yearbook, kids were doing The Shocker. Apparently none of the adults knew what that meant.

Once the yearbooks were published and before MOST of them were distributed, a young adult pointed out exactly what The Shocker was. The remaining (95+%)yearbooks made their way to the dumpster. Guess whose didn't. :)
 
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IMO,I understand disagreeing with someone and all that b/c we all have our own opinion, but is it really necessary to throw the donation money deal in everyone's face?? Just b/c someone else doesn't donate money to UT doesn't mean they are any less of a person...And furthermore, there is no need to compare that to an individual earning their degrees at his or her perspective school...BTW..this is in response to DomesticSilence.:blink:

Not trying to be a smarta$$, and I am definitely not siding with either in the discussion..Just offering another opinion to cool things down a bit.:peace2:
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Call me a negavol I don't care I've said it many times im on the fence about dooley. Buts its people like you who give the big time dooley supporters a bad name, delusional fans like you are retarted.
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Originally Posted by Volsfaninva917
Beef since we somewhat share the same opinion of the current state of the program let me ask you some questions. Dooleys supporters after the uk loss claimed we had to keep him to maintain stability in the program then we lose 7 assistants to lateral moves in a matter of a month. Is that stability? Then there were those who said we had to keep him to save this recruiting class we had a bunch of jucos coming etc now answer this honestly will this class finish in the top 25? Unless something drastic happens vandy will be ranked higher by most recruiting services

What 7 assistants left for lateral positions in one month?
 
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I predict 9-3. 8-4 at the worst. Sorry man but there's no way we have a NC type year this year. That's not being a negavol, that's beaint logical. I do think we finally beat UF this year, but I don't see how anyone could expect us to beat Bama this year. JMO. Or UGA, of course we could beat UGA if we play lights out. But it is in Athens this year. USCjr is a toss up though IMO.
 
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Great2BeATnVOL said:
And negavol fans like you are any better? If we got some positive thinking in here, it would do wonders for recruiting......I'm sure the negativity from clowns like you had nothing to do with coaches jumping ship and causing us to lose guys like Peters....
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Are you for real with this silliness?
 
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rjd970 said:
Are you for real with this silliness?
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You don't think recruits check out this board????? Isn't Jason Croom's mother a regular on this board? You think she's an anomaly. I'm sorry, but if I'm a recruit for a big university, I'm doing my research. This is your multi-million dollar investment, and you're going all-in for ONE school.

If you don't think the negativity of a fan base is a contagious disease that infects much more than a message board---the only person that is unrealistic, is you.
 
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Domestic Silence said:
...and you had one hell of AD selling the program. He sure did one hell of a job while he was here. His baseball hire was fantastic. His handling of Fulmer was fantastic. His contract work with Kiffin was fantastic. His handling of Pearl was fantastic. His hiring of Dooley is looking about the same. Just because he's an idiot doesn't mean our program sucks and has to hire rookies looking to get their feet wet, it just meant he couldn't get the job done....and he got fired for it. It's that simple. I work for a Fortune 34 company, I've seen plenty of idiot salesmen walk in the door, and soon enough walk back out. It doesn't mean our company is now on their level, they weren't on ours.

You're proving my point. You're too stupid to notice the trends, and you believed the idiot!

I'm not an AD, I couldn't tell you who I could pull and who I couldn't, and I don't pretend to be. But what I can tell you is that just because we had a terrible salesman and decision maker, I haven't completely given up on who we are and what we can do.

Ooooh, a former high school football player. Tell us how it should be done high school hero.
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I never ONCE stood for anything about Hamilton. That guy deserves all the negativity you can harness.(which is alot...need a divorce attorney anytime soon?)
 
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Great2BeATnVOL said:
You don't think recruits check out this board????? Isn't Jason Croom's mother a regular on this board? You think she's an anomaly. I'm sorry, but if I'm a recruit for a big university, I'm doing my research. This is your multi-million dollar investment, and you're going all-in for ONE school.

If you don't think the negativity of a fan base is a contagious disease that infects much more than a message board---the only person that is unrealistic, is you.
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People who think message boards make a difference desperately want to believe that their thoughts and opinions matter when they don't.
 
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Great2BeATnVOL said:
You don't think recruits check out this board????? Isn't Jason Croom's mother a regular on this board? You think she's an anomaly. I'm sorry, but if I'm a recruit for a big university, I'm doing my research. This is your multi-million dollar investment, and you're going all-in for ONE school.

If you don't think the negativity of a fan base is a contagious disease that infects much more than a message board---the only person that is unrealistic, is you.
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Dooley teach you to blame the message boards?

Excuses are much easier, aren't they?
 
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Great2BeATnVOL said:
And negavol fans like you are any better? If we got some positive thinking in here, it would do wonders for recruiting......I'm sure the negativity from clowns like you had nothing to do with coaches jumping ship and causing us to lose guys like Peters....
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Yea because I called up peters and told him to go to arkansas and I was the one who told wilcox to go to washington im sorry it wont happen again. Your a freaking cry baby more excuses for things going bad
 
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Domestic Silence said:
Dooley teach you to blame the message boards?

Excuses are much easier, aren't they?
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I'm not completely sold on Dooley yet myself, but i'm not calling for his head yet. This year could easily be his last year. I think anything less then 8 wins with a bowl win and he should be fired. Too much talent on this team not to win at least 8 IMO.
 
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Great2BeATnVOL said:
I never ONCE stood for anything about Hamilton. That guy deserves all the negativity you can harness.(which is alot...need a divorce attorney anytime soon?)
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What I'm saying is that all of these boo hoo excuses about him not getting the job done and hiring an actual coach are BS. He's an idiot and made the easy hire, plain and simple.

A real salesman would have made a hire that would pay off in the long run, not a short term recruiting class.

You really think Dooley is going to magically start out-recruiting Alabama, Florida, LSU, and Georgia consistently (at the same time, mind you), as well as roll out schemes to beat these teams too?
 
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Domestic Silence said:
Dooley teach you to blame the message boards?

Excuses are much easier, aren't they?
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I don't know about in your case, but humans communicate with large groups of people. This grows exponentially as you may talk to three of your friends, who in turn talk to three of their friends each, etc. This negativity can permeate large blocks of our fan base whether you'd like to admit it or not.

You severely discount human communication and behavior if you don't think so.

I noticed earlier in the thread you complained about the lack of stability provided by Dooley---perhaps some of that lack of stability comes from coaches getting jumpy about the grumblings of the fan base.

I'm just saying---it's cancerous. It has proven to be cancerous in getting Coach Fulmer fired, which was the beginning of the entire mess. I'm sure you were one of the leading proponents of getting rid of Fulmer---and how did that short sighted thinking work out for us again?

Tennessee Vols 4 Years of Heartbreak - YouTube

Oh yeah that's right....
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
I'm not completely sold on Dooley yet myself, but i'm not calling for his head yet. This year could easily be his last year. I think anything less then 8 wins with a bowl win and he should be fired. Too much talent on this team not to win at least 8 IMO.
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I'm not saying fire the guy right now, but did you read the OP? The best offense in the history of Tennessee Football? Am I the only one who understands what that means, and doesn't see it from what we saw last year?
 
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Great2BeATnVOL said:
I don't know about in your case, but humans communicate with large groups of people. This grows exponentially as you may talk to three of your friends, who in turn talk to three of their friends each, etc. This negativity can permeate large blocks of our fan base whether you'd like to admit it or not.

You severely discount human communication and behavior if you don't think so.

I noticed earlier in the thread you complained about the lack of stability provided by Dooley---perhaps some of that lack of stability comes from coaches getting jumpy about the grumblings of the fan base.

I'm just saying---it's cancerous. It has proven to be cancerous in getting Coach Fulmer fired, which was the beginning of the entire mess. I'm sure you were one of the leading proponents of getting rid of Fulmer---and how did that short sighted thinking work out for us again?

Tennessee Vols 4 Years of Heartbreak - YouTube

Oh yeah that's right....
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Once again, that goes back to Hamilton, not me. He handled Fulmer, not me.

How about our coaches? When does it fall on their shoulders? Why is it that message board posters get blasted from Dooley for the bad things, but when he "always kicks the **** out of vanderbilt", it's all him?

That's what excuse makers do.
 
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Domestic Silence said:
I'm not saying fire the guy right now, but did you read the OP? The best offense in the history of Tennessee Football? Am I the only one who understands what that means, and doesn't see it from what we saw last year?
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Yeah I saw that. I'm not so sure about the best offense in UT history. Our run game is too large of a question mark at this point to make a prediction like that. If the run game can be consistent then our offense will be really good though IMO. But the best is a bit of a stretch.
 
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Domestic Silence said:
What I'm saying is that all of these boo hoo excuses about him not getting the job done and hiring an actual coach are BS. He's an idiot and made the easy hire, plain and simple.

A real salesman would have made a hire that would pay off in the long run, not a short term recruiting class.

You really think Dooley is going to magically start out-recruiting Alabama, Florida, LSU, and Georgia consistently (at the same time, mind you), as well as roll out schemes to beat these teams too?
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Well perhaps if you gave the guy enough rope to do something he'd sure as hell have a fighting chance. If you give someone only enough slack as to ensure they'll fail---that's what will happen.

Dooley walked into a **** sandwich. We've had freshmen and sophomores competing against the best competition in the land for his last two years....he's suffered some tough breaks against LSU and UNC in the Music City Screwover, and this past year's schedule was simply grueling. There was NO coach that could have done anything better with what we had vs what we were up against. The fact that we came out of the Vandy game with a W is actually surprising.
 
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Domestic Silence said:
Once again, that goes back to Hamilton, not me. He handled Fulmer, not me.

How about our coaches? When does it fall on their shoulders? Why is it that message board posters get blasted from Dooley for the bad things, but when he "always kicks the **** out of vanderbilt", it's all him?

That's what excuse makers do.
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Were you, or were you not one of the proponents of firing Fulmer?
 
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