2012 Hype

#26
#26
I believe the fans are expecting us to compete for the SEC in 2012, not win a NC. I disagree with you that Bray and our WRS are our biggest question mark. We have a lot of question marks, but I belive DL and LBs are our biggest question mark. We are a young team and I am optimistic. We should at the very least be in position to win the SEC East in 2012. GBO!!!!!
 
#28
#28
If Tennessee wins the SEC in 2012, we will not get a shot at the NC because ESPN and the national media hates us. Book it.
 
#29
#29
Volgrad98 said:
I don't know who expects us to win the NC in 2012, but it is a make or break year for Coach Dooley. Considering that most of the roster will have had three years in the system, 9-10 wins and competing for the east crown is a realistic expectation.
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The OP's point is likely more correct, since we fired the last coach who gave us a "realistic expectation" in a typical season of "9-10 wins and competing for the east crown," and he actually delivered that 2/3 of the time in the worst 6-year stretch of his career. Such a "realistic expectation" and actual performance two-thirds of the time was called "laughably bad" by the experts on here. So, fan expectations are going to have to be radically lower for an "expectation" of "9-10 wins and competing for the east crown" to be the new standard for success.

FYI: I agree fans' expectations should be much lower for UT during this era of SEC football, but I've seen no evidence of that.
 
#30
#30
DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
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Ouch.
 
#31
#31
Sad it's gotten to the point where expecting 9-10 wins is considered hype for Tennessee.
 
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#32
#32
PMC2726 said:
SEC titles and NCs have gone hand-in-hand the last 5 years. I understand your point, but it's pretty hard to have one without the other given the current state of the SEC.
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Precisely. Since divisional play in the SEC, the title winner has gone on to play for a shot at the national title 11 times in the last 19 seasons. Of the other 8, the losing team in the SEC title game could have gone on to the national title game had they won, almost half the time. So, to in the "run for the SEC title" means to be in the "run for the national title" most of the time.
 
#33
#33
govols105 said:
It amazes me the amount of hype everyone is putting in to how good we are supposed to be in 2012. i want us to win every game, but putting all the pressure on us to be national champions in 2012 could back fire and lead to a busted season. i think this 2011 season will be the hint of where the program is headed. for all we know this season could be it who knows? bottom line is it's up to the coaches to make the correct calls and the players to execute 100% on the field. our recievers are hands down the biggest question mark on the team besides tyler bray. my biggest fear is tyler turning into erik ainge and the recievers not being able to catch balls throw right at them. but time will tell, as far as wins this season i see no reason why we can't win every game. At the very minimum this team should win 9 games not counting the bowl game.

GO VOLS!!
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Putting pressure on us? I assume you mean the players. No disrespect intended, but this pressure thing is something I never understood coming from fans. You do know all these players want to play in a big time conference FOR the high pressure atmosphere. Don't you? It's what they love if they're good enough to get to this level. SEC football. All pressure all the time.
 
#34
#34
chavisut said:
Sad it's gotten to the point where expecting 9-10 wins is considered hype for Tennessee.
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I know. It's what we became annoyed with Fulmer over and now its hype. It's kind of like that $100 barrel of oil thread in the politics forum...it was once a warning of how high it might go...then a hopeful sign of what it might go back down to.

Oh well...we're paying the natural price of transition and hopefully we'll find our way back to perennially battling for SEC championships. Fulmer had to go, IMO - but I don't think that I was prepared for the price tag that came along with it.
 
#37
#37
VegasVol said:
The OP's point is likely more correct, since we fired the last coach who gave us a "realistic expectation" in a typical season of "9-10 wins and competing for the east crown," and he actually delivered that 2/3 of the time in the worst 6-year stretch of his career. Such a "realistic expectation" and actual performance two-thirds of the time was called "laughably bad" by the experts on here. So, fan expectations are going to have to be radically lower for an "expectation" of "9-10 wins and competing for the east crown" to be the new standard for success.

FYI: I agree fans' expectations should be much lower for UT during this era of SEC football, but I've seen no evidence of that.
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You want Phillip Fulmer back, got it. And FYI, I don't care.
 
#38
#38
VegasVol said:
The OP's point is likely more correct, since we fired the last coach who gave us a "realistic expectation" in a typical season of "9-10 wins and competing for the east crown," and he actually delivered that 2/3 of the time in the worst 6-year stretch of his career. Such a "realistic expectation" and actual performance two-thirds of the time was called "laughably bad" by the experts on here. So, fan expectations are going to have to be radically lower for an "expectation" of "9-10 wins and competing for the east crown" to be the new standard for success.

FYI: I agree fans' expectations should be much lower for UT during this era of SEC football, but I've seen no evidence of that.
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No matter how badly you want it, the inept coach you adore isn't coming back. Simply put, he's not good enough for this job (or any other job, apparently) at the moment.
 
#40
#40
govols105 said:
It amazes me the amount of hype everyone is putting in to how good we are supposed to be in 2012. i want us to win every game, but putting all the pressure on us to be national champions in 2012 could back fire and lead to a busted season. i think this 2011 season will be the hint of where the program is headed. for all we know this season could be it who knows? bottom line is it's up to the coaches to make the correct calls and the players to execute 100% on the field. our recievers are hands down the biggest question mark on the team besides tyler bray. my biggest fear is tyler turning into erik ainge and the recievers not being able to catch balls throw right at them. but time will tell, as far as wins this season i see no reason why we can't win every game. At the very minimum this team should win 9 games not counting the bowl game.

GO VOLS!!
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Some good points in there, problem is the human nature of things. We have to have faith in the hope that we will be better soon. 2012 is the first year in quite a while that there is potential for us to be a contender. Will we be? Who knows but it's hard as a fan to not have a belief that we will be better soon.
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#41
#41
govols105 said:
It amazes me the amount of hype everyone is putting in to how good we are supposed to be in 2012. i want us to win every game, but putting all the pressure on us to be national champions in 2012 could back fire and lead to a busted season. i think this 2011 season will be the hint of where the program is headed. for all we know this season could be it who knows? bottom line is it's up to the coaches to make the correct calls and the players to execute 100% on the field. our recievers are hands down the biggest question mark on the team besides tyler bray. my biggest fear is tyler turning into erik ainge and the recievers not being able to catch balls throw right at them. but time will tell, as far as wins this season i see no reason why we can't win every game. At the very minimum this team should win 9 games not counting the bowl game.

GO VOLS!!
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We need to win 8 games this year, then win 10 games next year including the SEC east championship. I think if we can do these we'll have our answer about Dooley's abilities to get it done.

I'm waiting on someone to say "Just wait til 2013". :)
 
#42
#42
Isn't "realistic fan" an oxymoron?

We should be good in 2012, there's really no excuse if we aren't. But I'll just leave it at that. Setting a benchmark for wins is kind of pointless, considering the smallest thing can happen in the course of one second to determine the outcome of a game.
 
#43
#43
orangepridenation said:
Isn't "realistic fan" an oxymoron?

We should be good in 2012, there's really no excuse if we aren't. But I'll just leave it at that. Setting a benchmark for wins is kind of pointless, considering the smallest thing can happen in the course of one second to determine the outcome of a game.
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I wish people would quit with "well we may have an injury" type crap. Everybody knows that they CAN happen, but that doesn't mean they will. Good Lord, it's like people try to jinx the d**n team.
 
#44
#44
govols105 said:
It amazes me the amount of hype everyone is putting in to how good we are supposed to be in 2012. i want us to win every game, but putting all the pressure on us to be national champions in 2012 could back fire and lead to a busted season. i think this 2011 season will be the hint of where the program is headed. for all we know this season could be it who knows? bottom line is it's up to the coaches to make the correct calls and the players to execute 100% on the field. our recievers are hands down the biggest question mark on the team besides tyler bray. my biggest fear is tyler turning into erik ainge and the recievers not being able to catch balls throw right at them. but time will tell, as far as wins this season i see no reason why we can't win every game. At the very minimum this team should win 9 games not counting the bowl game.

GO VOLS!!
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Wouldnt expect us to win the NC in 2012. but taht should be Dooleys best team and be very talented, We should be able to challenge for the East and getting to the SEC Championship game.We could realistically win the East this year. i doubt we do, but the east will not be very good so its definately up for grabs.
 
#45
#45
jasonvol18 said:
Wouldnt expect us to win the NC in 2012. but taht should be Dooleys best team and be very talented, We should be able to challenge for the East and getting to the SEC Championship game.We could realistically win the East this year. i doubt we do, but the east will not be very good so its definately up for grabs.
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If we're not competing for the East in 2012, then Dooley is not the guy. This is UT, expectations are big. 3 years is plenty of time to at least compete for the East crown.
 
#46
#46
vol4eva said:
Who said we're expecting a NC in '12?
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Agree. Just foolish for folks to be talking about that; being optimistic is one thing, expecting a NC this year or next is dreaming. This year may be better than expected but I think our expectations for a SEC CG would be reasonable in 2012. Too many factors to make any realistic predictions.
 
#48
#48
2012 was the year most people were expecting us to be a contender when Kiffen was coaching.


and yes, I spelled his name wrong on purpose.
 
#50
#50
IF we go 7-5 this year then Dooley would be in no hot water at all if we win 9 games in 2012.

He wouldn't even be on the hot seat IMO.
 
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