2009 Starters???

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Tx_Vol3

Tx_Vol3

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Hi everyone, This is my first post on here but I've been reading for a while. I hope to continue posting and join the good insightful posters on here and I'll try to always stay positive.

That being said, I can't help but be optimistic about next season no matter who Coach K and Co. put on the field; I'm a big believer in the coaching staff and I totally believe that they will coach whatever they have up to it's highest potential and win games.

But...since we're all dieing to get a better glimpse of what the future of the team will hold, I wanted to see who you guys thought would be starting next year? Fill me in, I'm clueless as to what to expect.
 
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Welcome to the board. Post often. Develop a thick skin. Have fun. :hi:
 
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QB - J. Crompton (I'm sure many people will see that and stop reading)
RB - L. Creer
FB - K. Cooper
WR - G. Jones
WR - D. Moore
TE - B. Warren
OT - C. Scott
OG - J. McClendon
C - J. McNeil
OG - V. Richard
OT - D. Sawtelle
DE - B. Martin
DT - D. Williams
DT - C. Nelson
DE - W. Brown
OLB - R. McCoy
MLB - C. Donald
OLB - S. Frazier
CB - D. Rogan
FS - D. Morley
SS - E. Berry
CB - B. Vinson
K - D. Lincoln
P - C. Cunningham
 
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VkAman, I was thinking about the same thing as you. I know it's still a huge if but would your opinion at runningback change if Bryce Brown did sign with us?

Also, Who do you see being the 3rd and 4th recievers??? Paige has gotta be in the mix but who else?
 
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There are freshmen who would challenge for playing time as well, especially our top three: B. Brown (if we get him), J. Jackson and N. Richardson as well as Askew. But the only one I could see starting right away is Brown, and we don't have him right now.
 
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VKAman said:
There are freshmen who would challenge for playing time as well, especially our top three: B. Brown (if we get him), J. Jackson and N. Richardson as well as Askew. But the only one I could see starting right away is Brown, and we don't have him right now.
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Agreed. Is strength a question with the Jackson kid, he seems a little thin.

Also, I'm still dissapointed that I'm not able to list Abrams-Ward, I think he would've been a stud in Kiff's offense
 
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after looking at the front seven its a good thing we have great coaches. they just seem young and unexperienced, nothing negitive intended. Things can change.
 
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Haha I kind of answered your first question before I even saw it. I would lean toward Creer taking slightly more carries than Brown, but then I think of how Kiffin said freshmen would get the first look in the fall and how he wanted to build his offense around Brown. Hardesty is in there too, so our RB situation is kind of muddled and any opinion I offered would basically be a complete guess. I would say Brown 40%, Creer or Hardesty (whichever looks better in spring) 40%, and the other one maybe 20%. Then Brown's role would increase as the season went on if Kiffin really wants to build around him.

I think Nu'Keese Richardson would get a long look as a slot receiver with his body type and speed. I would say he along with Rogers and Paige are our next three receivers. I guess I think Richardson and Paige end up 3rd and 4th, but with a new coaching staff it is really hard to judge. And it's hard for me to imagine Paige in the slot, but I guess if we ran a three or four-receiver set we would put Paige on the outside and move Jones or Moore to the slot.
 
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You're right but I think we got the best in the business to adress that in Coach O, not to mention Monte to dirtect all of it. However, I'd say the secondary is stacked now and for years to come.
 
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Tx_Vol3 said:
Agreed. Is strength a question with the Jackson kid, he seems a little thin.

Also, I'm still dissapointed that I'm not able to list Abrams-Ward, I think he would've been a stud in Kiff's offense
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He does seem thin, but Rivals did rank him as the #1 most physical corner in the nation, which excites me. And he benches 270, which seems good for a high school corner. I think he will be fine and will be probably the first DB off the bench; I just don't think we rush a freshman into the starting lineup when we already have really good DBs as it is. Some may not be as talented as Jackson is, but Vinson, Berry and Morley were all five-stars as well.
 
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VKAman said:
Haha I kind of answered your first question before I even saw it. I would lean toward Creer taking slightly more carries than Brown, but then I think of how Kiffin said freshmen would get the first look in the fall and how he wanted to build his offense around Brown. Hardesty is in there too, so our RB situation is kind of muddled and any opinion I offered would basically be a complete guess. I would say Brown 40%, Creer or Hardesty (whichever looks better in spring) 40%, and the other one maybe 20%. Then Brown's role would increase as the season went on if Kiffin really wants to build around him.

I think Nu'Keese Richardson would get a long look as a slot receiver with his body type and speed. I would say he along with Rogers and Paige are our next three receivers. I guess I think Richardson and Paige end up 3rd and 4th, but with a new coaching staff it is really hard to judge. And it's hard for me to imagine Paige in the slot, but I guess if we ran a three or four-receiver set we would put Paige on the outside and move Jones or Moore to the slot.
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I think the wildcard in the whole situation is Poole, he's shown promise. You don't know what to expect after a long off-season to develop. But I agree on the split of carries. If we didn't land Brown, I think we'd see Creer getting about 60% of the 1st and 2nd down carries with the rest split between Hardesty and Poole and Hardesty getting most of the 3rd down looks.

I think you make a good point with the 3 and 4 wide sets. Personally, I think G.Jones would be more effective out of the slot anyways. And I forgot about Richardson, hopefully he can make the impact he's capable of as soon as he walks on campus. I only hope these recievers are better at run blocking then the last.
 
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knoxville's finest said:
after looking at the front seven its a good thing we have great coaches. they just seem young and unexperienced, nothing negitive intended. Things can change.
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Dan Williams and Wes Brown are returning starters, and between Ben Martin and Chris Walker we have really good talent there (though you're right, neither has been a starter). This is their third year here though; I think they'll be fine. I'm more worried about the second DT spot, as we have guys that are solid at DT or guys that are really talented but that are new to the DT position (Walls, Mathis). But we will have something like seven DTs competing for one spot in the starting lineup and maybe three or four spots in the rotation, and Brown apparently can play DT as well, so I think we will be able to find some good players there. Especially with Coach O.
 
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VKAman said:
He does seem thin, but Rivals did rank him as the #1 most physical corner in the nation, which excites me. And he benches 270, which seems good for a high school corner. I think he will be fine and will be probably the first DB off the bench; I just don't think we rush a freshman into the starting lineup when we already have really good DBs as it is. Some may not be as talented as Jackson is, but Vinson, Berry and Morley were all five-stars as well.
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Ok, that's good to hear. So it doesn't sound like toughness will be a concern. I don't expect to see Myles much this year but I really am excited about what the future holds for him.

Back to the linebackers, we signed a great class this year and echoing what you said, whether it's Askew or Marlon Walls, I think the freshman will see a lot of action this year.
 
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Tx_Vol3 said:
I think the wildcard in the whole situation is Poole, he's shown promise. You don't know what to expect after a long off-season to develop. But I agree on the split of carries. If we didn't land Brown, I think we'd see Creer getting about 60% of the 1st and 2nd down carries with the rest split between Hardesty and Poole and Hardesty getting most of the 3rd down looks.

I think you make a good point with the 3 and 4 wide sets. Personally, I think G.Jones would be more effective out of the slot anyways. And I forgot about Richardson, hopefully he can make the impact he's capable of as soon as he walks on campus. I only hope these recievers are better at run blocking then the last.
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I'm really excited about our offense under our next QB. Even if he doesn't start right away in 2010, when he does in 2011 we could have a huge WR on one side (Paige) with a really quick one on the other (Richardson) not even counting the recruits we get between now and then. Someone posted that if we get Bryce Brown we will win the NC in 2011, and I think that is an overly bold statement to make, but I think we could have a really explosive offense with Monte's defense. Anyway, back to the present.

You're right. I think a lot of people forget about Poole because he wasn't really highly touted as a three-star. But from all accounts, he has been impressive in Knoxville. As you said, he will be behind talents like Creer and Hardesty, but he will figure into the rotation.

And yeah, I think a lot of people think of Richardson as "the guy we got from Florida" but forget that, before we got Janzen Jackson, Rivals had Richardson as our best recruit. This guy can play. It might take him a little while to get back into the rhythm of the WR position because he played QB last year, but it won't take long and he has been compared (though Florida's Debose is ranked higher and is simliar) to Percy Harvin. Rivals has him second-ranked as far as skills after the catch.
 
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I like your starting lineup but I was wondering if maybe Darris Sawtelle might get a look at OT? And also, how about Chris Donald? I feel like he was one of those guys that got pushed to the back of the depth chart during the Fulmer regime... I think he could replace S. Frasier in the other OLB pos.

I have one other question... What ever happened to Rolando Melancon?
 
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Tx_Vol3 said:
Ok, that's good to hear. So it doesn't sound like toughness will be a concern. I don't expect to see Myles much this year but I really am excited about what the future holds for him.

Back to the linebackers, we signed a great class this year and echoing what you said, whether it's Askew or Marlon Walls, I think the freshman will see a lot of action this year.
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A lot of people have mentioned Jackson as a safety, but if he plays corner I think Myles, as the third safety, would get in the game a fair amount.

And Walls is apparently up to 275 now and may be moving down to the line, but otherwise would play a lot. I think Askew will get plenty of playing time, yes. He seems to be our 4th LB but I might be forgetting some people.
 
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VolAce said:
I like your starting lineup but I was wondering if maybe Darris Sawtelle might get a look at OT? And also, how about Chris Donald? I feel like he was one of those guys that got pushed to the back of the depth chart during the Fulmer regime... I think he could replace S. Frasier in the other OLB pos.

I have one other question... What ever happened to Rolando Melancon?
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True, those are people I forgot about. I was trying to think of who could be a RT because I really don't think Schofield will start as a freshman but I just blanked. Sawtelle has a very good chance there. And I can't believe I forgot about Chris Donald because I am usually the one reminding my friends about him. I thought he was more of a MLB though, but I'm not sure. I think Frazier is more likely to start than Thompson is, so it would be McCoy, Frazier and Donald/Thompson. Which would make Askew our 5th LB at best (6th if Gerald Williams stays there) so I guess he might not play much after all.

And good question...he isn't listed on our roster.
 
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VKAman said:
QB - J. Crompton (I'm sure many people will see that and stop reading)
RB - L. Creer
FB - K. Cooper
WR - G. Jones
WR - D. Moore
TE - L. Stocker
OT - C. Scott
OG - J. McClendon
C - J. McNeil
OG - V. Richard
OT - J. Schofield? Myers and Johnson gone...
DE - B. Martin
DT - D. Williams
DT - C. Nelson
DE - W. Brown
OLB - R. McCoy
MLB - L. Thompson
OLB - S. Frazier
CB - D. Rogan
FS - D. Morley
SS - E. Berry
CB - B. Vinson
K - D. Lincoln
P - C. Cunningham
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correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe brent vinson is no longer with the team. and coleman will play instead of crompton.
 
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Im not sure if C. Donald is MLB or OLB. Scouts had him listed as the 2nd best SLB in his class while Rivals had him listed as the no. 1 overall LB in his class. Remember, this was a class that had Relando McClain (From Bama) as the 3rd best LB according to Rivals. I have always thought C. Donald would do big things but for some reason Fulmer never let him see the field. I guess he would be a RS Soph by this stage? I'd like to see him really excel in Monte's D scheme
 
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VKAman said:
I'm really excited about our offense under our next QB. Even if he doesn't start right away in 2010, when he does in 2011 we could have a huge WR on one side (Paige) with a really quick one on the other (Richardson) not even counting the recruits we get between now and then. Someone posted that if we get Bryce Brown we will win the NC in 2011, and I think that is an overly bold statement to make, but I think we could have a really explosive offense with Monte's defense. Anyway, back to the present.

You're right. I think a lot of people forget about Poole because he wasn't really highly touted as a three-star. But from all accounts, he has been impressive in Knoxville. As you said, he will be behind talents like Creer and Hardesty, but he will figure into the rotation.

And yeah, I think a lot of people think of Richardson as "the guy we got from Florida" but forget that, before we got Janzen Jackson, Rivals had Richardson as our best recruit. This guy can play. It might take him a little while to get back into the rhythm of the WR position because he played QB last year, but it won't take long and he has been compared (though Florida's Debose is ranked higher and is simliar) to Percy Harvin. Rivals has him second-ranked as far as skills after the catch.
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I may get shot for even thinking it but if Kiffin decides to use the Wild Hog formation at all, maybe Richardson will get a look then. I wasn't aware he played QB. With his ahtleticism and speed...it could be dangerous. I wouldn't expect that to happen but just throwing it out there...

As for the recievers we'll sign in the future, I was actually really dissapointed in what I've seen out of the Recievers in the 2010 class. I know they're only juniors and still have a lot of time to grow but they almost all seemed undersized. I'm pretty sure I only saw two recievers that were over 200 pounds. 6', 6'1, 170ish was the norm. But like I said they'll grow in time I'm sure.

And...the QB situation will be interesting when 2010 comes around. Although I've read that he's only considering Washington and BYU, Jake Heaps (#1 player in class) has us listed and I would never count us out with our coaching staff. He'd be a huge pick up
 
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(6th if Gerald Williams stays there) [/QUOTE said:
Is Gerald Williams thinking about transferring? I think he has become more of a D line guy, but I definitely expect him to play a lot next year if hes still a Vol.
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