2008 Hoops Big Board: Post Targets

#28
#28
tclowers23 said:
Maybe Hamga and the coach had a "disagreement", or something else that we know nothing about. You know nothing about how good Zeller is, just what you read.
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yea, there is a small chance that is why zeller would be getting most of the minutes but Zeller has been outpreforming Hamga. A coach could bench a guy for a "disagreement" but a coach wouldnt say let Zeller play better than you just because im pissed.
 
#29
#29
vols kick balls said:
yea, there is a small chance that is why zeller would be getting most of the minutes but Zeller has been outpreforming Hamga. A coach could bench a guy for a "disagreement" but a coach wouldnt say let Zeller play better than you just because im pissed.
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I'm not going to be able to convince you that Zeller would be a waste of a scholarship. Just watch him in college, especially if he goes to a high-major program. Then you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
#30
#30
Jerry Meyer on Zeller....

In response to a Vol poster:

"Zeller is very good and is better than a lot of people ranked ahead of him, including Hamga. Look for some big time changes in our '08 rankings next week. Yes, Bruce Pearl was oogling over Zeller in Houston."

http://rivalshoops.******************.asp?fid=103&tid=93550828&mid=93550828&sid=910&style=2

He also mentioned in another thread that Zeller will be at least top 50 when the new rankings come out. It's too bad that Jurick committing to Tennessee may halt any pursuit of Zeller. I will be happy to have Jurick, but I wish we could take both!
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#32
#32
tclowers23 said:
Yeah, I've read that, and it's quite amusing. Are we supposed to read that like it's doctrine? Bring on Philip Jurick... please!
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I've watched Jurick in person - living near him... my first impression of him was there was no way he'd be recruited by a high-major... then I was extremely suprised when I saw all the high-majors recruiting him.

Point is, you're probably expecting too much from a big guy when it usually takes them longer to develope in high school rather than guards. Guards can make the transition easier.

Sometimes seeing a high school player in person can be underwhelming unless he is a garunteed super star in the future. Jurick has improved a lot since I last saw him I'm sure, but it was just a shock thinking this guy could contribute in a huge way for UT in the future.

Anyway, it's likely you're going to keep your opinion on him but I'm going to trust these high-major coaches recruiting him.
 
#33
#33
Bassmanbruno said:
I've watched Jurick in person - living near him... my first impression of him was there was no way he'd be recruited by a high-major... then I was extremely suprised when I saw all the high-majors recruiting him.

Point is, you're probably expecting more from a big man when it usually takes them longer to develope in high school rather than guards. Guards can make the transition easier.

Sometimes seeing a high school player in person can be underwhelming unless he is a garunteed super star in the future. Jurick has improved a lot since I last saw him I'm sure, but it was just a shock thinking this guy could contribute in a huge way for UT in the future.

Anyway, it's likely you're going to keep your opinion on him but I'm going to trust these high-major coaches recruiting him.
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Maybe you're right, but the fact is: Tyler Zeller is a bean-pole. He'd have to put on 50-70 pounds to be able to bang with SEC post players. At least Jurick already has the body mass.
 
#34
#34
tclowers23 said:
Maybe you're right, but the fact is: Tyler Zeller is a bean-pole. He'd have to put on 50-70 pounds to be able to bang with SEC post players. At least Jurick already has the body mass.
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Yeah, I agree. I'd rather have Jurick anyway being a local prospect and he fits the void we have down low.
 
#35
#35
Bassmanbruno said:
Yeah, I agree. I'd rather have Jurick anyway being a local prospect and he fits the void we have down low.
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I haven't seen Jurick play in person, but it sounds as though he's a very physical player. If that's true, he would be immediate help in Knoxville. And yeah, UT definitely needs to start keeping more in-state talent.
 
#36
#36
With the momentum UF has, UT's status as a rising power, and UK and its new coach, programs like South Carolina are going to get suffocated.
 
#39
#39
tclowers, I am sorry but I will trust Pearl's evaluation more than yours. I have not seen him play so I am not going to make any comments on him. You have to remember how players fit into the system. Maybe his brother does not fit into the Notre Dame system very well. A 6'10 kid that can move like this kid supposedly can could be something Pearl thinks would fit into his system very well.
 
#40
#40
therickbol said:
tclowers, I am sorry but I will trust Pearl's evaluation more than yours. I have not seen him play so I am not going to make any comments on him. You have to remember how players fit into the system. Maybe his brother does not fit into the Notre Dame system very well. A 6'10 kid that can move like this kid supposedly can could be something Pearl thinks would fit into his system very well.
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All I'm saying is we will all be very disappointed in the play of Tyler Zeller. Plain and simple, he's not big or talented enough to compete in the SEC.
 
#41
#41
"Yes Tyler was offered by Kentucky this weekend.


Tyler measures just over 7'0" {with a reach of 8'8"} now and plays the 4-5 for us. He runs the floor, can step out hit a 15 ft jumper {consistently}, has great footwork around the bucket and gets his shot or into his move quickly for his size. He has to be on the rise so far in the rankings he is Rodney Dangerfield {getting no respect!}.

UT has also offered Tyler. Tyler has yet to formalize a list but that will be coming soon."

"He is a lot better than his brother. Tyler is more athletic, tougher and can score on the interior and also hit the face up jumper like his brother. If you look at the rankings, we had Luke much, much lower than the competition." - Jerry Meyer

"Tyler Zeller- The near seven footer played big and efficiently for the Elite. He went 8 for 9 from the field and 5 of 5 from the line for a game high 21 points. He also added 11 rebounds to go along with a steal. Extremely poised with the ball for a big man, Zeller did not record a turnover in both the finals and the semifinals.

With an impressive mid-range touch, Zeller also finishes plays around the rim. He is making a claim for being one of the better big men in the class of 2008. "

"Tyler Zeller prepped for his outstanding championship game by scoring 10 points on 5 of 5 shooting and grabbing 8 rebounds, blocking a shot and going without a turnover. In his last two games of the tournament, Zeller went 13 of 14 from the field and 7 of 7 from the line."


He's listed at 6'10'' 205 and with him now being over 7'0'' he is likely 215-220 and only a HS Jr.

Not that it matters anyways with Jurick committing.
 
#45
#45
allVOL6deuce said:
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He's listed at 6'10'' 205 and with him now being over 7'0'' he is likely 215-220 and only a HS Jr.
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That's a false statement. He's still around 6'10" and pushing 200 pounds. Even if he did grow to be 7' (which he hasn't), that doesn't automatically give him 20 pounds. :good!:

You are right that none of this matters because UT is going to land Philip Jurick... a much better prospect.
 
#46
#46
tclowers23 said:
That's a false statement. He's still around 6'10" and pushing 200 pounds. Even if he did grow to be 7' (which he hasn't), that doesn't automatically give him 20 pounds. :good!:

You are right that none of this matters because UT is going to land Philip Jurick... a much better prospect.
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it doesnt even look like zeller is even looking at UT, and if we ever played against him i think that Jurick would get the best of him head to head
 
#48
#48
tclowers23 said:
That's a false statement. He's still around 6'10" and pushing 200 pounds. Even if he did grow to be 7' (which he hasn't), that doesn't automatically give him 20 pounds. :good!:

You are right that none of this matters because UT is going to land Philip Jurick... a much better prospect.
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Well he's clearly 7' now. I would imagine he's over 200, just because he doesn't have the bulk now doesn't mean he isn't a very good prospect.
 
#50
#50
16. Tyler Zeller
6-11, 215, C, Washington (Ind.)
Zeller in action
Few players have the impact that Zeller does on a game. The 6-foot-11 center from Washington (Ind.) High School is efficient and effective. He picked up a number of offers after his strong Kingwood Classic performance and Real Deal on the Hill showing. He's picked up a dozen offers (or more) on top of the dozen he was already holding.

Jerry Meyer on Zeller: "What a spring Zeller has had for himself. He stabilized the middle on both ends of the court during Indiana Elite's run to the championship at the Kingwood Classic. An efficient scorer, Zeller scores on quick moves in the post and has a soft touch on his face-up jumper. His skill level and athleticism are remarkable for a near 7-footer."

6'11'' 215 ooooooo :eek:lol:
 
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