1st Scrimmage of Fall Camp TODAY!

[Orangeburst]

First!

 

[WillisWG]

There is, of course, no way D linemen and linebackers are bigger now than they were in 1994, right?

94 roster only 4 guys over 300, 1 guy over 310

 

[WillisWG]

Means absolutely nothing how he performed today and likely the other two as well. The defense knows what is coming and they design it that way to see how the offense will do. There have been numerous scrimmages where the qb’s looked lousy and the other way around

Scrimmages are practice sessions where teams can mimic real game scenarios in a controlled environment. They allow coaches to test plays and evaluate players. To say it means absolutely nothing is silly.

That GMac did well in his reps today is good news

 

[landscapingvol]

Scrimmages are practice sessions where teams can mimic real game scenarios in a controlled environment. They allow coaches to test plays and evaluate players. To say it means absolutely nothing is silly.

That GMac did well in his reps today is good news

I will remind you that several quarterbacks have looked stellar in scrimmages including but not limited to JG and Jonathan Crompton. I will also remind you that Tyler Bray had some notoriously horrendous scrimmages and Dobbs couldn’t beat out Worley/Peterman

 

[WillisWG]

I will remind you that several quarterbacks have looked stellar in scrimmages including but not limited to JG and Jonathan Crompton. I will also remind you that Tyler Bray had some notoriously horrendous scrimmages and Dobbs couldn’t beat out Worley/Peterman

Once again....To say it means absolutely nothing is silly.

 

[LittleVol]

Here, you seem like you might need one of these:

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Heh, just giving you grief.

Let's don't worry about the true freshman who looks good in one scrimmage in the first half of fall camp. That never lasts.

I'd put a significant amount of money down that says either Aguilar or Merklinger starts this season and between the two of them, play most of the snaps from August to January.

Nice that MacIntyre had a good day. Happy for him. He ain't the 2025 Vols QB. Consequently, all the weird-shaped dominoes you imagine falling if he were, well that's just "What if Hitler won WWII" kinds of wasted time.

Go Vols!

But this isn’t the first time.
He outplayed Merk in the Spring game too.

The kid was a 5 star before services decided he wasn’t. He still has all that elite QB talent.

Hey Heupel knows what he wants. But if GMAC is the the most consistent, then you can’t ignore that…

 

[WillisWG]

But this isn’t the first time.
He outplayed Merk in the Spring game too.

The kid was a 5 star before services decided he wasn’t. He still has all that elite QB talent.

Hey Heupel knows what he wants. But if GMAC is the the most consistent, then you can’t ignore that…

 

[VFL-82-JP]

But this isn’t the first time.
He outplayed Merk in the Spring game too.

The kid was a 5 star before services decided he wasn’t. He still has all that elite QB talent.

Hey Heupel knows what he wants. But if GMAC is the the most consistent, then you can’t ignore that…

I gotcha. Well, we will see. In just a few weeks. I know where I'd put my money.

Go Vols!

 

[volfan411]

While Joey A looks like a good kid and a hard working QB, there's nothing but orange tinted glasses suggesting he's special.

There's nothing suggesting Josh Heupel ever gave him more than a passing glance in recruiting ever before Nico left.

Everything suggests Joey A is the best QB Heupel could get after Nico left and that he's a mid range B1G QB.

The question is will CJH go with JA who is a gambler but turnover prone or one of the other two who may play more conservative but gives your defense a chance.

 

[Wezcoast]

I will remind you that several quarterbacks have looked stellar in scrimmages including but not limited to JG and Jonathan Crompton. I will also remind you that Tyler Bray had some notoriously horrendous scrimmages and Dobbs couldn’t beat out Worley/Peterman

Yep. I started really watching cfb when Andy Kelly was qb and we've had some really good ones, but we've also had several in the 2 deep that could barely complete a forward pass. Regardless of a few hiccups here and there, I think we're in good shape at that position. All 3 have the ability to move the ball.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

The question is will CJH go with JA who is a gambler but turnover prone or one of the other two who may play more conservative but gives your defense a chance.

I think there's a strong chance we look like last year with a "game manager" QB and a strong running game to supplement the real power which is our defense.

As we get further and further from the magical exciting 2022 season without "that guy" at QB, I think we have to realize that Josh Heupel isn't as devoted to tempo and the full on veer and shoot as we may have thought.

Coach Heupel finds ways to get teams to win and that's his job. If he has a QB issue this year, he'll do what he did last year and run.

 

[volfan411]

I think there's a strong chance we look like last year with a "game manager" QB and a strong running game to supplement the real power which is our defense.

As we get further and further from the magical exciting 2022 season without "that guy" at QB, I think we have to realize that Josh Heupel isn't as devoted to tempo and the full on veer and shoot as we may have thought.

Coach Heupel finds ways to get teams to win and that's his job. If he has a QB issue this year, he'll do what he did last year and run.

I agree!!! JA may have the most upside but if he continues to throw picks no way CJH lets him start. He will put one of the other two in and give his defense a chance to win it.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I agree!!! JA may have the most upside but if he continues to throw picks no way CJH lets him start. He will put one of the other two in and give his defense a chance to win it.

I have to give Heupel credit for NOT running "our offense" with Milton nor Nico when apparently they couldn't execute it efficiently.

He's got a good coaching mind about his team's strengths and a really good set of defensive coaches as a base point.

Last year's team took us to the CFP. While I don't think we can win it all without being elite at more positions, I think Heupel is good enough to win a lot every year and hopefully find "that guy" at QB again.

 

[landscapingvol]

Once again....To say it means absolutely nothing is silly.

It means little in trying to decipher how good or bad a qb will be which is I am assuming the point of all the speculation, correct?

 

[jasonvol18]

But this isn’t the first time.
He outplayed Merk in the Spring game too.

The kid was a 5 star before services decided he wasn’t. He still has all that elite QB talent.

Hey Heupel knows what he wants. But if GMAC is the the most consistent, then you can’t ignore that…

Gmac is also going against the 3rd and beyond string guys, he's not going up against the 1s and 2s. He would get killed if he played right now, he's tiny. P

 

[livefaith]

I think Heupel needs to legit give George Mac as true shot.

That kid had no weapons at Brentwood Academy (which is ridiculous to think about) or they were just too young. But now? Dasane Brame is a new age prototype TE. He’s good young WRs and some “older” guys in the room.
- run the ball
- play defense
- let your true freshman QB take small chances in big games and bigger chances in small games.

2026 comes around.
- Best o-line the SEC
- great dline again
- best LBs and Secondary in the SEC
- experienced QB and WRs/TE

Heupel as A LOT to think about

I'm going to bring your projection into the current era of college football here ...

2026 comes around.
- Good SEC o-line, and excellent if we pick up a couple replacements out of the portal
- Good dline again. Can we replace the 2 that transferred
- Good remaining LBs and Secondary. Hopefully we can replace unexpected losses
- Can we replace our experienced QB and WRs/TEs that left in the portal.

>> Not tryna be a jagazz. But, the era of developing players in a linear fashion is over at the moment. We'll have to hang on to as many as possible and then try to replace what leaves for Greener Pa$ture$. The good news is that Heupel has a huge upside in his portal results since he arrived. We moan and whine @ the portal like everyone. But Josh & Co literally built a contender from a dumpster fire primarily by the transfer portal.

 

[livefaith]

The question is will CJH go with JA who is a gambler but turnover prone or one of the other two who may play more conservative but gives your defense a chance.

If I had to answer this question in the way it is posed, I'd honestly say Aguilar will sit. 2021 Milton/Hooker, 22' Hooker, 23' Milton, 24' Iamaleava ... all produced for us with few interceptions. I get the feeling that CJH demands it that way and would lean to the QB that keeps the play "in system" and safe. Unfortunately he may be forced to go as far as possible again this year handicapped under center and leaning on a good D and running game. Just an overall thought if the decision comes down that way.

 

[WebbCobb]

I think there's a strong chance we look like last year with a "game manager" QB and a strong running game to supplement the real power which is our defense.

As we get further and further from the magical exciting 2022 season without "that guy" at QB, I think we have to realize that Josh Heupel isn't as devoted to tempo and the full on veer and shoot as we may have thought.

Coach Heupel finds ways to get teams to win and that's his job. If he has a QB issue this year, he'll do what he did last year and run.

Agree but also note that a dogmatic devotion to anything, including tempo, is a bad thing. Coaches need to coach to circumstance, not to some rigid game plan that does not consider context

 

[WillisWG]

It means little in trying to decipher how good or bad a qb will be which is I am assuming the point of all the speculation, correct?

Practices and scrimmages are the way Coaches evaluate players to determine who starts nothing more. How good or bad a QB plays has more to do with the opposition.

 

[jasonvol18]

Practices and scrimmages are the way Coaches evaluate players to determine who starts nothing more. How good or bad a QB plays has more to do with the opposition.

Unfortunately that doesn't always determine who's better. Dobbs was a horrible practice guy and Peterman was a great practice QB. Hooker didn't practice as well as Milton and we all know the ending to that story. Not sure why that happens, but unfortunately it's part of it

 

[Vol865]

What does the title of the thread say?

Come on guys…

It says:

1st Scrimmage of Fall Camp TODAY!

Followed by:

What do you want to see/hear?

Which is why I was clarifying.
I got you though. Appreciate the insights.

 

[volfan411]

If I had to answer this question in the way it is posed, I'd honestly say Aguilar will sit. 2021 Milton/Hooker, 22' Hooker, 23' Milton, 24' Iamaleava ... all produced for us with few interceptions. I get the feeling that CJH demands it that way and would lean to the QB that keeps the play "in system" and safe. Unfortunately he may be forced to go as far as possible again this year handicapped under center and leaning on a good D and running game. Just an overall thought if the decision comes down that way.

I would lean towards the QB who protects the ball as well. The defense is going to be too good to allow momentum turning turnovers.

 

[WillisWG]

Unfortunately that doesn't always determine who's better. Dobbs was a horrible practice guy and Peterman was a great practice QB. Hooker didn't practice as well as Milton and we all know the ending to that story. Not sure why that happens, but unfortunately it's part of it

yep all part it

 

[Bigorangefan 98]

Question is on offense, who will emerge to be the go to wide receiver? Hopefully Matthew’s can be

 

[Remy]

How does our revamped o-line do against our still dominant d-line? I want to hear that we were able to protect the QBs and able to run the ball with some level of effectiveness. If our offensive line can become a strength for this team then we'll win a lot of games regardless of who the QB is and how little depth we have at WR.

At the end of the day this is a line of scrimmage sport.

Correct about LOS. Basketball is a contact sport, football is a collision sport.