1998 Vols...Still in Top 3 Teams All Time

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#28
If the list is simply based upon who each team beat during the year in question, the '09 Bama is probably as good a pick as any.

But I agree that, with the eye ball test, '95 Nebraska and '01 Miami should be numbers 1 and 2 in whatever order you feel like arguing about.
 
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bamawriter said:
If the list is simply based upon who each team beat during the year in question, the '09 Bama is probably as good a pick as any.

But I agree that, with the eye ball test, '95 Nebraska and '01 Miami should be numbers 1 and 2 in whatever order you feel like arguing about.
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I agree with all that.
 
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#30
He has the 1939 Vols #185. They didn't allow an opponent to score the entire season. I know it was 1939, but they deserve more respect than #185.
 
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tvolsfan said:
2001 Miami is number 17. That makes it completely inaccurate, no matter how it was calculated.
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The methodology they used is an absolute joke in the context of rankings the "Best" teams of all time. Your comment about 2001 Miami is correct. Also, no matter how much everyone here would like it to be so, the 1998 Vols were not the third best team of all time.
 
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2001 Miami would absolutely destroy 2009 Alabama. I'm sorry, but as much talent that Saban pulled in, they're nothing compared to what Miami had that year. Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Andre Johnson, Bryant McKinney, Vince Wilfork, Jerome McDougle, DJ Williams, Jonathan Vilma, Ed Reed, and Phillip Buchanon as starters? That's not counting backups like Willis McGahee, Antrell Rolle, Sean Taylor, and Frank Gore.
 
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UNAVol89 said:
2001 Miami would absolutely destroy 2009 Alabama. I'm sorry, but as much talent that Saban pulled in, they're nothing compared to what Miami had that year. Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Andre Johnson, Bryant McKinney, Vince Wilfork, Jerome McDougle, DJ Williams, Jonathan Vilma, Ed Reed, and Phillip Buchanon as starters? That's not counting backups like Willis McGahee, Antrell Rolle, Sean Taylor, and Frank Gore.
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has nothing to do with who had the more impressive season
 
#34
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I realize these things can be highly speculative at best and number one can be emotionally hard for some to sound down.

I say give this one a chance. Besides, I have a T-shirt that says the same thing.
 
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bamawriter said:
If the list is simply based upon who each team beat during the year in question, the '09 Bama is probably as good a pick as any.

But I agree that, with the eye ball test, '95 Nebraska and '01 Miami should be numbers 1 and 2 in whatever order you feel like arguing about.
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Since your a bama fan I would say I think your 92 bama team if year is right would beat your 09 team. I know they were low scoring that year but they were tough like a rhino. They beat Miami like a red headed step child. Just my opinion.
 
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gobigorange1979 said:
He has the 1939 Vols #185. They didn't allow an opponent to score the entire season. I know it was 1939, but they deserve more respect than #185.
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I agree but if I'm right their 0-14 loses to Oklahoma that year in the bowl taints that season. But granted nobody has ever done that before or after. 185 is too low IMO also
 
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99gator said:
The list is interesting for discussion, but hard to take seriously.

94 nebraska is not better than 95 nebraska, I don't care what measurement you try to use.
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He defined the measurement he was using, and by that measuremnet 94 is better than 95.

He clearly stated the list wasn't a direct comparison to teams on the list. It was a comparison of how they fared in relation to the competition they faced. You're gut feeling doesn't affect that one way or the other, just as the list does not invalidate your gut feeling.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
I realize these things can be highly speculative at best and number one can be emotionally hard for some to sound down.

I say give this one a chance. Besides, I have a T-shirt that says the same thing.
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Dude if you even think your top of that class your as delusional as your 100 national championships you claim.
 
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strongtower said:
Since your a bama fan I would say I think your 92 bama team if year is right would beat your 09 team. I know they were low scoring that year but they were tough like a rhino. They beat Miami like a red headed step child. Just my opinion.
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The '09 team ultimately played a more daunting schedule. No other team has ever knocked of 10 bowl teams in one season, not to mention dealing the #2 and #3 teams in the final polls their only losses.

Also, the '09 team was a much better offensive team than '92, while not being too far behind on defense.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
Doesn't seem too confusing.

Ranking teams on how "talented' or "good the were" is a very subjective and hard to judge way of ranking.

Ranking teams on their results by the teams that they played and beat is a much easier thing to measure and rank.

Make more sense now?
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The problem is that it doesn't tell you who was the best team (which is what he's claiming to do). It just tells you who played the toughest schedule. That really doesn't mean squat as far as telling who were the best teams because if they're one of the best teams ever then they should destroy everybody on their schedule no matter how tough the schedule was.
 
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volinreallife said:
I would love to see this as a round robin, 98 vols, 95 huskers, 01 canes, and 09 bama.
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The only team in that list that UT could have possibly beaten (and probably would beat) was the 09 Bama team. 2001 Miami and 95 Nebraska would have destroyed the 98 UT team.
 
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Vol423 said:
The problem is that it doesn't tell you who was the best team (which is what he's claiming to do). It just tells you who played the toughest schedule. That really doesn't mean squat as far as telling who were the best teams because if they're one of the best teams ever then they should destroy everybody on their schedule no matter how tough the schedule was.
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Then it's simply disappointing that '01 Miami and '95 Nebraska did not play as tough a schedule as '09 Alabama. Maybe they would have destroyed everyone, but no one can really argue that their schedules were near as tough as '09 Bama's.
 
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bamawriter said:
Then it's simply disappointing that '01 Miami and '95 Nebraska did not play as tough a schedule as '09 Alabama. Maybe they would have destroyed everyone, but no one can really argue that their schedules were near as tough as '09 Bama's.
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It was impossible for those teams to have a schedule as tough as 09 Bama. Their conferences sucked compared to the SEC. The methodology used for these rankings is absolutely stupid.
 
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Vol423 said:
The only team in that list that UT could have possibly beaten (and probably would beat) was the 09 Bama team. 2001 Miami and 95 Nebraska would have destroyed the 98 UT team.
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Agreed. 2009 Tide would be tough, though.

The thought of a Chavis defense trying to stop the 95 Huskers offense is almost funny.
 
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bamawriter said:
The '09 team ultimately played a more daunting schedule. No other team has ever knocked of 10 bowl teams in one season, not to mention dealing the #2 and #3 teams in the final polls their only losses.

Also, the '09 team was a much better offensive team than '92, while not being too far behind on defense.
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Can't argue on the season stats thing but here is a stat to think of. Your 09 team breezed by a coltless Tex team while your 92 team destroyed a complete Miami team where bama was a huge underdog. Did you watch both teams in their years I did?
 
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strongtower said:
Can't argue on the season stats thing but here is a stat to think of. Your 09 team breezed by a coltless Tex team while your 92 team destroyed a complete Miami team where bama was a huge underdog. Did you watch both teams in their years I did?
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You can't just base everything of the title game. It's a good indicator, but it's still only one game. That logic has some people believing the 2004 Trojans were the best team ever, despite the fact that they definitely weren't as dominant throughout the season as the 2001 Canes or 1995 Huskers.
 
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Vol423 said:
The only team in that list that UT could have possibly beaten (and probably would beat) was the 09 Bama team. 2001 Miami and 95 Nebraska would have destroyed the 98 UT team.
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I see you're still under the impression the Alabama team Kiffin played would have been waiting on T-Martin in the Rose Bowl?

Arkansas 28-24 and you talk about Mt. Cody

It's OK, I know it took a little more to get passed Florida State.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
I see you're still under the impression the Alabama team Kiffin played would have been waiting on T-Martin in the Rose Bowl?

Arkansas 28-24 and you talk about Mt. Cody

It's OK, I know it took a little more to get passed Florida State.
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I see you're another clueless troll.

2009 Bama may have beaten the 1998 Vols, but let's not pretend that Bama was much better.
 
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bamawriter said:
Then it's simply disappointing that '01 Miami and '95 Nebraska did not play as tough a schedule as '09 Alabama. Maybe they would have destroyed everyone, but no one can really argue that their schedules were near as tough as '09 Bama's.
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If your going by a schedule then remember 95 Nebraska beat a complete national champ florida by 30 or more points who destroyed fsu the following year with same team. Your bama team beat a team without their starting a qb by what 10 points or less can't remember. 95 nebraska or 01 Miami would mop
Your ass.
 
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tvolsfan said:
You can't just base everything of the title game. It's a good indicator, but it's still only one game. That logic has some people believing the 2004 Trojans were the best team ever, despite the fact that they definitely weren't as dominant throughout the season as the 2001 Canes or 1995 Huskers.
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Oh which is why our bowl and BCS system is made up of bull**** to show who is #1. Neither one let's top colleges play for title.
 
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