'18 GA QB Emory Jones (Ohio State commit)

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Feel the same way about the I. I wonder if Jones and Debord saw the same success we saw with it and will implement it more? It really seemed to benefit Hurd.
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Hurd and the tes over the middle. If you want to utilize croom and wolf pound hurd up the middle out of the i and then hit em with some play action. Teams will be so confused witb zone read i form power run and play action pass all being run.
 
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glichtenwalter said:
I know.

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Dang. I was sure that this was going to turn into a pizza slice.
 
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Per Hubbs
As we mentioned on Wednesday, Emory Jones won't be in town because of an engagement with his team. He will see Ohio State on July 22 and right now you have to think the Buckeyes are liking how things are setting up, especially if Jones elects not to visit Tennessee again before making a decision.

But, Jones is trying to set something up before his season begins in late August and there's certainly a chance he makes it back to Knoxville.
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If he is truly dead set on making a decision at that time whether he visits us again or not...Then his decision is already made. Another one bites the dust.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
If he is truly dead set on making a decision at that time whether he visits us again or not...Then his decision is already made. Another one bites the dust.
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If the decision was made...why bother at all with another trip? We may be behind, but it doesn't appear to be a done deal yet.
 
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thetennlegend said:
Agree 100%. I actually want to see more i this year as i think it will help dobbs.
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Ahh....yes....right before our biggest and most anticipated season in the last 10 years....let's go ahead and change the offense to where it takes away our QB'S best ability in running the football. Seems smart.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Ahh....yes....right before our biggest and most anticipated season in the last 10 years....let's go ahead and change the offense to where it takes away our QB'S best ability in running the football. Seems smart.
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You employ is like in the northwestern game not change the offense. Theres also this thing called a qb boot with a run pass option.
 
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thetennlegend said:
You employ is like in the northwestern game not change the offense. Theres also this thing called a qb boot with a run pass option.
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My favorite play.Puts alot of stress on the defense.If run correctly with the right personnel could be a hugE play.
 
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tn4elvis said:
My favorite play.Puts alot of stress on the defense.If run correctly with the right personnel could be a hugE play.
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Yup and if they play it perfectly you toss the ball out of bounds and nothing is lost. A qb like dobbs would be perfect to employ that ten times a game. You may also get the backside wr alone deep once in awhile.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
Ahh....yes....right before our biggest and most anticipated season in the last 10 years....let's go ahead and change the offense to where it takes away our QB'S best ability in running the football. Seems smart.
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Seems like you know a lot about football offensive schemes.








Not.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Seems like you know a lot about football offensive schemes.








Not.
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You guys were talking about changing the offense to where it suits a less mobile QB. Which means taking away zone and option away from the QB. You then both agreed that you would like to see it happen this year because for some reason it would help Dobbs.

Yes....let's take away the best part of Dobbs' game....because that would help this offense sooooooo much. You also take away his threat then Hurd and Kamara won't be as effective.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
You guys were talking about changing the offense to where it suits a less mobile QB. Which means taking away zone and option away from the QB. You then both agreed that you would like to see it happen this year because for some reason it would help Dobbs.

Yes....let's take away the best part of Dobbs' game....because that would help this offense sooooooo much. You also take away his threat then Hurd and Kamara won't be as effective.
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No one said that. We are talking about putting in some power i packages to compliment what we already do. The changing offenses would come with a different qb that would not be effective in a zone read scheme. I 100% agree that dobbs needs to run the zone read but the i would open up the play action pass and bootlegs and could add another dimension to the offense which may just win us the east.
 
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thetennlegend said:
No one said that. We are talking about putting in some power i packages to compliment what we already do. The changing offenses would come with a different qb that would not be effective in a zone read scheme. I 100% agree that dobbs needs to run the zone read but the i would open up the play action pass and bootlegs and could add another dimension to the offense which may just win us the east.
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+1 With differing caveat that a different QB isn't necessary. Mixing the offset I with the spread would further the advantage against teams that aren't comfortable against said spread. Take Bama, they pull out all the stops and adjust adjust adjust against the Dobbs types. Say they're in one of those defensive packages and we shift to the I right before the snap? Another wrinkle and another adjustment in the defensive gameplan...can't hurt us...could help a LOT! :shades:
 
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However, execution suffers when you try to do to many things. Folks here talk about running too many WR and the QB and WRs never get comfortable or in rhythm. Same thing can happen when combining two fundamentally different offensive schemes, with different alignments and blocking assignments. It's not impossible, but it is a point against hybrid offenses that aren't well thought out. Practice reps suffer as well.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
However, execution suffers when you try to do to many things. Folks here talk about running too many WR and the QB and WRs never get comfortable or in rhythm. Same thing can happen when combining two fundamentally different offensive schemes, with different alignments and blocking assignments. It's not impossible, but it is a point against hybrid offenses that aren't well thought out. Practice reps suffer as well.
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It's not a "scheme"....it's a formation. One of the simplest ones, in fact. Didn't see the "suffering" in the bowl game and word from bowl practice observers didn't note any growing pains. And before the predictable "Northwestern sucks" rejoinders come pouring in? If it was such an exotic difference, it wouldn't have been basically seamless against a Division III team...much less a team that beat Stanford. :hi:
 
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butchna said:
It's not a "scheme"....it's a formation. One of the simplest ones, in fact. Didn't see the "suffering" in the bowl game and word from bowl practice observers didn't note any growing pains. And before the predictable "Northwestern sucks" rejoinders come pouring in? If it was such an exotic difference, it wouldn't have been basically seamless against a Division III team...much less a team that beat Stanford. :hi:
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Exactly you can run the i in pee wee football just fine. What we are suggesting is not a overhaul just an addition to the offense. I actually like what you said butchna about changing right before the snap you could catch teams at a disadvantage fairly easily. The main person it would benefit is hurd. You get him going downhill with power.
 
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