'17' TN ATH Tee Higgins (Clemson commit)

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volunteerfan said:
My nephew is a great student and has always been on the honor roll. He took the act for the first time and got a 15. He knows what he has to do to get the score up and said he's gonna kill it next time. With act prep classes and tutors these kids can get the scores they need with no problem.
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I took the LSAT with a friend from undergrad. I did well. She did okay but not great. We had similar grades although hers were slightly better and she had a much more difficult major than me. I got accepted at three of the four law schools I applied to in the first round based on LSAT score. She sweated it out on wait lists. We wound up going to the same school. She was on scholarship after first year, graduated in the top 5 of our class, and is a very tenacious and successful lawyer.
 
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Mike4Vols said:
1. A poster taking issue with UT pulling in state prospects isn't being a negavol. It's fact. They missed out on the top 3 prospects at a point when all 3 were presumed to be qualifiers.

2. Grown-ass men laughing at a kid for not qualifying for college is comptely pathetic. Don't portray it as "laughing at Clemson". Somebody looking at these post from the outside would see it as mocking those kids. Again ... pathetic.
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Trey Smith and Ty Chandler were top 3 wants. Not laughing at Richardson and the academic issue is only rumor at this point. Laughing at the backtracking to make scenarios fit. Clemson "owned" us and netted ONE player that we wanted. :lol:
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
There is grade inflation in some places, although the standardized proficiency tests negate it somewhat. There are some very smart, very hard working students who just don't test well.
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They generally don't test as bad as a 13 though. And they normally test high in some portion of the test to balance out the total score.

There are some students who may take the test before they have had the coursework and that combined with the lack of seriously preparing for the test may make them score lower.

If he truly is a good student and hasn't just been passed along - he will improve his score if he takes it seriously and prepares for it. If he has been passed along, doing just the bare minimum - he is going to have a very difficult time not only with the score on this test but with college in general.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
The other side of the coin is that, as adults, we quickly realize that most of us will never use most of what we learn in school beyond reading and basic math.
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Most do. You just don't think about it. You learn to write and communicate clearly. You learn how to interpret data and, whether or not you notice it, how to use scientific problem solving. You learn metaphors and examples that are used in everyday language in many setting. YOu learn history and the importance of it in understanding and enjoying the world around you. You learn compound interest. And you learn the basics that underpin the technical aspects of your job, whether engineer or musician. I'm not in favor of college for the sake of college, but you use a lot of what you learn in school without ever realizing it.
 
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volunteerfan said:
My nephew is a great student and has always been on the honor roll. He took the act for the first time and got a 15. He knows what he has to do to get the score up and said he's gonna kill it next time. With act prep classes and tutors these kids can get the scores they need with no problem.
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Just being on the honor roll does not = good ACT scores. Unless a person is naturally intelligent and can grasp concepts without taking actual coursework, they will need to master certain content through the classes they take in school or via prep.

The tests are meant to separate the students between high potential to low potential so that universities can make choices on admissions and scholarships.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Just being on the honor roll does not = good ACT scores. Unless a person is naturally intelligent and can grasp concepts without taking actual coursework, they will need to master certain content through the classes they take in school or via prep.

The tests are meant to separate the students between high potential to low potential so that universities can make choices on admissions and scholarships.
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Ok smart guy, sometimes the test can be overwhelming. His mom did the same thing the first time she took the test and the next time she got a 25 on it. It is not impossible to raise the act score up
 
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volunteerfan said:
Ok smart guy, sometimes the test can be overwhelming. His mom did the same thing the first time she took the test and the next time she got a 25 on it. It is not impossible to raise the act score up
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I agree the test scores can be improved. Taking these tests quite honestly don't do what they used to do with all the prep that is available today. A 25 is not what it used to be.

That said, I hope he is able to improve and get to college. If this is an issue maybe it will be the catalyst to help him become a better student.
 
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volunteerfan said:
Ok smart guy, sometimes the test can be overwhelming. His mom did the same thing the first time she took the test and the next time she got a 25 on it. It is not impossible to raise the act score up
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https://www.google.com/search?q=act...=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=_qm8nGVTqECOJM:

So according to this chart, tee would have gotten about 30 answers correct. I don't know what kind of student he is, but scoring a 13 on the act is a huge red flag. It would mean that if he is an honor student and that score stood, oak ridge high school would have a lot of explaining to do.

He would also be in the 7th percentile overall. Ouch
 
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The young man only can blame himself. When you have the talent he has you should do everything humanly possible to make sure anything school related or off the field stuff can't keep you from playing.
 
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jcv0010 said:
I've never been sold on the "don't test well" argument.

Maybe those people just aren't naturally smart, but are just good at memorizing material and regurgitating it for a test. On standardized tests you can not do that.
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Their are people who have legitimate anxiety issues that cause them to freeze up when taking tests. It has nothing to do with intelligence. It is a disability like dyslexia. I have dyslexia, and it is a massive pain in the butt.
 
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chieftn15 said:
The young man only can blame himself. When you have the talent he has you should do everything humanly possible to make sure anything school related or off the field stuff can't keep you from playing.
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I gave you a 'like' because I agree, but you have to remember these athletes are still teenagers. What they should do doesn't necessarily translate to what they do. Put yourself in his shoes and imagine what you would do at his age. Not everyone can handle all of the hype that's thrown their way at such a young age.
 
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BondJamesBond said:
Most do. You just don't think about it. You learn to write and communicate clearly. You learn how to interpret data and, whether or not you notice it, how to use scientific problem solving. You learn metaphors and examples that are used in everyday language in many setting. YOu learn history and the importance of it in understanding and enjoying the world around you. You learn compound interest. And you learn the basics that underpin the technical aspects of your job, whether engineer or musician. I'm not in favor of college for the sake of college, but you use a lot of what you learn in school without ever realizing it.
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Very true. Just wish that college could be cut down a year or two. I hate all the useless gen-eds.
 
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