'17 TN ATH Maleik Gray (UT signee)

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cncchris33 said:
Sure he could, but he only played two of those positions before, and he was elite at one of them, one of the absolute best in the nation. So why take him away from that position and try him out at a position he's never played, just because?
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It's just a debate.

Antonio Gates played a different sport and became the NFL's best TE.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
It's just a debate.

Antonio Gates played a different sport and became the NFL's best TE.
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Fair point, but Gates had a scholarship to play football at Michigan State when Saban was there as well, so it's not like the concept of football was new to him.

I'm not saying Gray can't physically play the RB position. I'm just saying it's a little foolish to proclaim as matter of factly as LV is, that Gray will undoubtedly play RB when he doesn't even play it at the HS level and no schools are recruiting him to play there. "Offensive-minded" or not, he is being recruited for what he can do on the defensive side of the ball.

3 years from now, if LB doesn't pan out for him, or he's buried on the depth chart, maybe he switches positions and gives H-back or RB a try if we somehow have a need there.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Henry was not recruited as a CB. In fact, he rushed for 4000 yds his SR year alone, and IIRC, broke Emmitt Smith's high school rushing record for yards in a season. He, Jamal Lewis, and Travis Stephens all came in as RBs, and all had uber-succesful respective careers at UT doing so.

It was not very hard to project where Jalen Hurd, the 5* HS All-American RB who rushed for 3350 yds and 43 TDs as a JR was going to project best in college.

No school was recruiting to be a defensive player, especially a position like DL where he'd never played before.

The point in the case of Hurd, and in the case of Gray is why force the square peg into the round hole? By the time Gray reaches college, he will not have played RB in two years. Is Tennessee at a point where we have to recruit kids at RB who haven't played the position in two years?
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Saban wanted him as a safety. Blew his chance at him when he tried to get Hurd to line up at that spot in a camp. That he got hurt and missed his senior year playing that spot was a ringing endorsement for staying put.
 
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butchna said:
Saban wanted him as a safety. Blew his chance at him when he tried to get Hurd to line up at that spot in a camp. That he got hurt and missed his senior year playing that spot was a ringing endorsement for staying put.
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If there was one coach/school that could afford to pull that stunt, I guess it would be Saban and Bama...lol.
 
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highspeed said:
Didn't Riggs have a pretty serious ankle injury in his first year or two at UT? I wonder if he ever fully recovered?
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I think he messed up his ankle his senior year against Alabama. I know he played in Canada for a little while. Really hate it for him. Had over 1,000 yards as a junior splitting time with Cedric Houston if I remember correctly.
 
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cncchris33 said:
The point being, you wanted to take a guy (Hurd) who has become an All-SEC caliber RB (in a VERY DEEP group of RBs no less), and play him at a position he'd never played before. Why?

Could Bo Jackson have made a helluva LB, QB, or Punter for some team? Sure he could, but he was a Heisman winner and elite, transcendent talent as a RB.

And as it relates to Gray...again, he doesn't even play RB in high school anymore, and has 78 total carries in his entire career. Why do you want to make him a RB in the SEC if he can't even make an impact at the position at the high school level? No school is recruiting him to play offense, and college coaches universally agree that he will play either S or LB at the next level. Do you know more than the coaching staffs at Tennessee, Florida St., Auburn, etc.? Your emphatic insistence that Gray will (without a doubt) play on the offensive side of the ball in college, suggests that, yet there is literally zero substance to that belief outside of your gut feeling.
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He's a top 100 recruit for a reason.
 
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LittleVol said:
Hes an Elite athlete is the reasoning.

Hes a top 100 ATH . Not LB, Not Safety, cb, or even RB but ATH.

You need to show a little composure
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And he is a top 100 ATH instead of S or LB is because they don't know to which exactly he projects. RB is not a part of the equation nor has it been for roughly 1.5yrs now.
 
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cncchris33 said:
If there was one coach/school that could afford to pull that stunt, I guess it would be Saban and Bama...lol.
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I did admire him for barely to no recruitment of Gaulden and still sending him a LOI to sign on NSD.
 
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LittleVol said:
Javon Kearse wax a safety when he came to Florida.

Hurd could have been a monster safety. Or even a WR. Or...a DE.

BUT, He wanted to play RB.
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Lucas Taylor was a QB.

Al Wilson was a RB along with many of our other lb's.

Happens all the time but none of us really know till he gets to campus. If he gets to campus.
 
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LittleVol said:
Finally, someone with a little sense...
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No one is disagreeing that people change positions. The guy isn't even playing RB for his high school. Just because people believe he won't play running back here doesn't mean they don't have "a little sense." It's pretty logical actually.
 
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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Lucas Taylor was a QB.

Al Wilson was a RB along with many of our other lb's.

Happens all the time but none of us really know till he gets to campus. If he gets to campus.
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This has to be the worst argument consistently brought up on VN.

Of course Wilson played on offense. But he was being recruited as a LB.

80% of high school athletes who plan on playing football in college play both ways. A lot of high school QBs end up at a different position, especially at smaller high schools.

We can look back at Gray's position in college in two years. I think it speaks volumes that a top 100 player as a defender doesn't start on offense. The reverse is a little more uncommon, but if he is such the playmaker at RB, why isn't he tearing it up at LaVergne?
 
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KnoxVegas said:
This has to be the worst argument consistently brought up on VN.

Of course Wilson played on offense. But he was being recruited as a LB.

80% of high school athletes who plan on playing football in college play both ways. A lot of high school QBs end up at a different position, especially at smaller high schools.

We can look back at Gray's position in college in two years. I think it speaks volumes that a top 100 player as a defender doesn't start on offense. The reverse is a little more uncommon, but if he is such the playmaker at RB, why isn't he tearing it up at LaVergne?
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Ok genius. What is Gray being recruited to play?
 
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