17-20 at LA Tech...

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...is probably about a .700 winning percentage anywhere else.

To field competitive teams at a third fiddle Louisiana school that has to travel halfway accross the country for its away conference games is no small feat.

The people getting hung up on Dooley being 3 games below .500 are failing to realize that not all wins were created equal.
 
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What was Kiffin's Ncaa record before coming to UT? OH, thats right after leaving the VOLS and taking over TROY NATION he has won exactly 7 more game than Me!!!! LMFAO,CDD will be great for us and let Lane Violation burn with the AD out there. They hired him as a sacrificial lamb,he will keep recruits and they will dump his azz within two years!!
 
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You can't put much stock in his record at LA Tech. They don't spend the necessary money to compete at a high level. This guy might end up being a good hire, we'll all just have to wait and see. I like his attitude and he at least doesn't want to come in here and change what made Tennessee Tennessee. He wasn't the popular choice, but just like Lame you can't judge a book by its cover. Got to give him a chance now and sigh, be patient.
 
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It's sad but we've got some here that all they do is look at W/L records as the main gauge to hiing someone.If anyone with a half a brain would check the bios of some of the more famous coaches I bet you'll find some not-so-impressive records they had starting out.
 
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La Tech was a mess when Dooley got there. He brought in much better recruiting classes and was able to compete. Also, they played some top notch teams to increase their revenue. Just this season they played Auburn and LSU. They only lost to LSU by 8 points. Boise St. only beat them by 10 this season as well, and I think they proved themselves to be worthy. The 17-20 record at LA Tech should be forgotten. I found myself concentrating on that as well when I first heard we were hiring him, but after doing my research I'm not a bit worried about that now. Dooley was a great hire.
 
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I still can't understand how people just write his record off like it's no big deal. There's enough talent in Louisiana that LA Tech should be competitive in the WAC just by getting the leftovers from that state. Boise St. dominates that conference, and I would have to guess their local talent pool is significantly less that that of LA Tech's.
 
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I like all these replies. His '09 team was decimated, much like ours, but from what I hear, even worse. He ran out of WR options and had to put a cornerback in to play receiver. If the injury bug hadn't hit, he might have made it back to a bowl game this year.
 
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Good point about dooley's record at La Tech. Winning there would be difficult for any coach, due to the inability to outrecruit the teams they play on a regular basis. Going against bama, lsu, texas... for recruits at la tech---not easy.
 
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I have a problem with the way the AD has handled the football program, that's all. He's the coach we have to live with, might as well support him. Either that or go out west and support the flake that left. It's about Tennessee anyway not a coach. In the long run we were going to be better off without Lane trying to turn a very proud program into USCe. That in itself is disrespectful. Glad he went back to that crap hole of a state where same sex marriage is legal., LA and Lame deserve each other, good riddance.
 
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Cartervol said:
I have a problem with the way the AD has handled the football program, that's all. He's the coach we have to live with, might as well support him. Either that or go out west and support the flake that left. It's about Tennessee anyway not a coach. In the long run we were going to be better off without Lane trying to turn a very proud program into USCe. That in itself is disrespectful. Glad he went back to that crap hole of a state where same sex marriage is legal., LA and Lame deserve each other, good riddance.
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C'mon Cartervol........don't hold back on us now!!! LOL
 
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VolsRule said:
Good point about dooley's record at La Tech. Winning there would be difficult for any coach, due to the inability to outrecruit the teams they play on a regular basis. Going against bama, lsu, texas... for recruits at la tech---not easy.
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By that same rationale I'm surprised our old OC Rickey Bustle hasn't gotten a better job after posting a winning record at UL-Laffayette. The RCs beat Kansas State this season for what was undeniably the program's signature win to date.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I still can't understand how people just write his record off like it's no big deal. There's enough talent in Louisiana that LA Tech should be competitive in the WAC just by getting the leftovers from that state. Boise St. dominates that conference, and I would have to guess their local talent pool is significantly less that that of LA Tech's.
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this would be true if it was just lsu. but ark, tx, fl, a&m, ole miss, even tenn recruit there.
 
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Illinois Hokie said:
...is probably about a .700 winning percentage anywhere else.

To field competitive teams at a third fiddle Louisiana school that has to travel halfway accross the country for its away conference games is no small feat.

The people getting hung up on Dooley being 3 games below .500 are failing to realize that not all wins were created equal.
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First off - he didn't have to win the WAC but it would have been nice if he was at least mediocre.

Second - the other WAC teams are in a similiar situation and they beat Dooley.

The record is what it is...poor!
 
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UT should have hired Chris Peterson then. Boise St is in the same conference as La Tech and they manage to win every game in that conference and play BCS bowls.
 
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oklavol said:
UT should have hired Chris Peterson then. Boise St is in the same conference as La Tech and they manage to win every game in that conference and play BCS bowls.
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Bragging about dominating that conference is like Usain Bolt bragging about dominating the 100 meters at the special olympics. Not that much of an accomplishment. That said, at least Peterson has proven he CAN win games, so I would have been happier with that hire than the one we made.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Bragging about dominating that conference is like Usain Bolt bragging about dominating the 100 meters at the special olympics. Not that much of an accomplishment. That said, at least Peterson has proven he CAN win games, so I would have been happier with that hire than the one we made.
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nice example... so we just hired some who finished sixth in the special olympics
 
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I could be totally wrong about this guy, but I just don't see anything on his resume that points towards winning on the big stage. I would have felt a lot better with someone who had a least been a OC or DC for a team that won on some level in a major conference.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
I still can't understand how people just write his record off like it's no big deal. There's enough talent in Louisiana that LA Tech should be competitive in the WAC just by getting the leftovers from that state. Boise St. dominates that conference, and I would have to guess their local talent pool is significantly less that that of LA Tech's.
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I was in the same boat with you until I heard DD say something that struck a chord with me. He said something like, "yeah, if I would've stayed with CNS and was on his staff that won the NC this year I'd be a more popular coach selection. But, I'm a more experienced coach for having coached at La Tech". I can buy that.

Basically, a lot of people wanted Muschamp. I'm pretty sure you and I could coach the athletes he's got at the other UT and be somewhat successful.
 
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tim said:
I was in the same boat with you until I heard DD say something that struck a chord with me. He said something like, "yeah, if I would've stayed with CNS and was on his staff that won the NC this year I'd be a more popular coach selection. But, I'm a more experienced coach for having coached at La Tech". I can buy that.

Basically, a lot of people wanted Muschamp. I'm pretty sure you and I could coach the athletes he's got at the other UT and be somewhat successful.
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That statement kind of fell flat for me. Sure, had he stayed with Saban, his stock could be higher because the potentital would still be unknown. In my eyes though, he set out on his own as a HC and burst that bubble by proving he couldn't even win in one of the weakest top to bottom conferences in 1-A.
 
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Illinois Hokie said:
...is probably about a .700 winning percentage anywhere else.

To field competitive teams at a third fiddle Louisiana school that has to travel halfway accross the country for its away conference games is no small feat.

The people getting hung up on Dooley being 3 games below .500 are failing to realize that not all wins were created equal.
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Gary Crowton won about 60% of his games at Tech. Does that mean he essentially won 14 games in 12 game seasons?
 
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This late in the game, it could be worse. If Mark Mangino hadn't of screwed up at KU he would of end't up at Tennessee....That would be worse
 
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