'16 AZ DE Jonathan Kongbo UT Signee 2/3/16

I agree. We have a lot of offers out to some pretty good playerd so if that does happen it's not the end of the world. These guys are going to be stars though
 
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This year's class will not be top 5 in the SEC, much less the nation. Butch has shown his hand. He can't coach on the sideline. He can beat schools where he has much better talent but against SEC schools he is only average at best. If he falters in getting the SEC title next year, he will never get one at UT.

And he runs a spread offense! We'll never be able run the ball out of the spread!
 
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If we get even just 1 of these guys it'll be a miracle.

My bet is:

Kongbo - Alabama
Warrior - (1) Alabama/(2) Georgia (55/45)
Brown - Georgia
Hardman - (1) Georgia/(2) Alabama (55/45)

The sad thing is that 3 people actually 'liked' this which would seem to confirm that we still have a lot of posters on here that pretend to be Vol fans so they can troll. Whether you agree with it or not, this certainly didn't deserve a like - much less 3.

For what it's worth, I think we land Kongbo and Warrior. Hardman will go to Georgia and Brown will probably either pick Auburn or Georgia. Just because you're the one being negative doesn't make you a realist and me a sunshine pumper. Kongbo is still committed and Warrior is still a legacy... and Butch is still a strong closer. :hi:
 
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The sad thing is that 3 people actually 'liked' this which would seem to confirm that we still have a lot of posters on here that pretend to be Vol fans so they can troll. Whether you agree with it or not, this certainly didn't deserve a like - much less 3.

For what it's worth, I think we land Kongbo and Warrior. Hardman will go to Georgia and Brown will probably either pick Auburn or Georgia. Just because you're the one being negative doesn't make you a realist and me a sunshine pumper. Kongbo is still committed and Warrior is still a legacy... and Butch is still a strong closer. :hi:

I think we get Kongbo and Warrior, and Butch does what Butch does and we get an NSD commit from someone who seems like a longshot atm.

For funsies I am gonna throw out a two-fer... Corley and Hill.
 
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The sad thing is that 3 people actually 'liked' this which would seem to confirm that we still have a lot of posters on here that pretend to be Vol fans so they can troll. Whether you agree with it or not, this certainly didn't deserve a like - much less 3.

For what it's worth, I think we land Kongbo and Warrior. Hardman will go to Georgia and Brown will probably either pick Auburn or Georgia. Just because you're the one being negative doesn't make you a realist and me a sunshine pumper. Kongbo is still committed and Warrior is still a legacy... and Butch is still a strong closer. :hi:

TROLL? In no way am I trying to troll Brother. I'm not an insider or anything close to it but that's just how I see it. Not being a negative Nancy or chicken little or whatever other name you'd like to call me. Honestly just an unbiased guess as to how it will play out. I'd LOVE to get all 4 of these guys and know that Butch is a strong recruiter but think we just have a major uphill battle and we'll probably be holding the short end of the stick in the end on all 4 of them. Hope I'm wrong but that's simply just the way I see it. :peace2: :hi:
 
How was I stirring things up lol? I was just saying that if we miss on them the class will be a failure, which is true? If you think us missing on hardman, warrior, brown, and kongbo is okay then your tripping.

So any school that misses on these kids is a failure? Or just UT? You surely realize how silly your constant sky-is-falling bit sounds.
 
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TROLL? In no way am I trying to troll Brother. I'm not an insider or anything close to it but that's just how I see it. Not being a negative Nancy or chicken little or whatever other name you'd like to call me. Honestly just an unbiased guess as to how it will play out. I'd LOVE to get all 4 of these guys and know that Butch is a strong recruiter but think we just have a major uphill battle and we'll probably be holding the short end of the stick in the end on all 4 of them. Hope I'm wrong but that's simply just the way I see it. :peace2: :hi:

I wasn't talking about you as much as the 3 people who 'liked' what you said. It's fine if you feel that way but there was nothing in your post to like.
 
So any school that misses on these kids is a failure? Or just UT? You surely realize how silly your constant sky-is-falling bit sounds.

I wasn't talking about any other school? I was just saying if we miss on all and uga and bama get the others it would be a failure on our coaching staff. Wouldn't you agree? Look at reality. So your saying if we missed on all of them you wouldn't be upset at all? You surely realize how silly your unrealistic sunshine pumping is? People on here have a very very hard time with reality and then get extremely butthurt when something doesn't go our way. I don't get my hopes up as much because being butthurt is silly. I guarantee that if we don't get any of the 4, the fans that are being sunshine pumpers will have a thread started about how butch sucked this year in recruiting. I've seen it happen over and over again. Better to be realistic and not get your feelings hurt when something bad does happen, then being unrealistic and bashing coaches, players, and VN posters when something bad happens.
 
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I wasn't talking about any other school? I was just saying if we miss on all and uga and bama get the others it would be a failure on our coaching staff. Wouldn't you agree? Look at reality. So your saying if we missed on all of them you wouldn't be upset at all? You surely realize how silly your unrealistic sunshine pumping is? People on here have a very very hard time with reality and then get extremely butthurt when something doesn't go our way. I don't get my hopes up as much because being butthurt is silly. I guarantee that if we don't get any of the 4, the fans that are being sunshine pumpers will have a thread started about how butch sucked this year in recruiting. I've seen it happen over and over again. Better to be realistic and not get your feelings hurt when something bad does happen, then being unrealistic and bashing coaches, players, and VN posters when something bad happens.

Wrong
 
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5* player committed to Tennessee.

"Sweet, let's go there and complain about recruiting, and moan about Kongbo not coming to Tennessee." - dem dudes
 
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If we whiff on all four, the first person I'm coming to is you. You thInk you know everything. Look at reality once in a while. You bi*** just because someone post there realistic personal opinion. I guarantee I'm in more of the right on signing day than you are.

How is your rife speculation realistic? Nobody knows how this class will wind up. The sky has not fallen yet. If we finish outside the top 15, I will be disappointed, but I won't switch my allegiance to another team just yet.
 
The sad thing is that 3 people actually 'liked' this which would seem to confirm that we still have a lot of posters on here that pretend to be Vol fans so they can troll. Whether you agree with it or not, this certainly didn't deserve a like - much less 3.

For what it's worth, I think we land Kongbo and Warrior. Hardman will go to Georgia and Brown will probably either pick Auburn or Georgia. Just because you're the one being negative doesn't make you a realist and me a sunshine pumper. Kongbo is still committed and Warrior is still a legacy... and Butch is still a strong closer. :hi:

You know the like button is used as an "agreeance" button very often. Doesn't mean the other posters like seeing this proposed scenario, it means they agree that scenario is likely to happen. Stop pulling the fan card BS; that's the most tiresome flame on here. Anyone who is more pessimistic than your crowd, is immediately labeled a troll or not a true fan. There's no measurement for fandom to say your's is stronger than mine, so give it a rest.
 
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You know the like button is used as an "agreeance" button very often. Doesn't mean the other posters like seeing this proposed scenario, it means they agree that scenario is likely to happen. Stop pulling the fan card BS; that's the most tiresome flame on here. Anyone who is more pessimistic than your crowds, is immediately labeled a troll or not a true fan. There's no measurement for fandom to say your's is stronger than mine so give it a rest.

Agree x1000
 
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I wasn't talking about any other school? I was just saying if we miss on all and uga and bama get the others it would be a failure on our coaching staff. Wouldn't you agree? Look at reality. So your saying if we missed on all of them you wouldn't be upset at all? You surely realize how silly your unrealistic sunshine pumping is? People on here have a very very hard time with reality and then get extremely butthurt when something doesn't go our way. I don't get my hopes up as much because being butthurt is silly. I guarantee that if we don't get any of the 4, the fans that are being sunshine pumpers will have a thread started about how butch sucked this year in recruiting. I've seen it happen over and over again. Better to be realistic and not get your feelings hurt when something bad does happen, then being unrealistic and bashing coaches, players, and VN posters when something bad happens.

Just curious: how would it be a failure by the staff if you believe (realistically) that we won't get any of them? That doesn't make sense. If you are being realistic, then the staff is just status quo and not failing.

People use this board as fun, for discussion and information. Realism and negativism are different, but there are clearly people who are negative. Never understood why some want to use this venue be so negative.
 
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Just curious: how would it be a failure by the staff if you believe (realistically) that we won't get any of them? That doesn't make sense. If you are being realistic, then the staff is just status quo and not failing.

People use this board as fun, for discussion and information. Realism and negativism are different, but there are clearly people who are negative. Never understood why some want to use this venue be so negative.

It should be a failure to the staff because we should have big time recruits every year. I also believe we won't get any of them. So therefore that's a failure recruiting class. Something just wasn't clicking this year. It would also be a failure because that means we lost 4 big battles to Alabama or Georgia. How can you not see that that's not a failure?
 
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Just curious: how would it be a failure by the staff if you believe (realistically) that we won't get any of them? That doesn't make sense. If you are being realistic, then the staff is just status quo and not failing.

People use this board as fun, for discussion and information. Realism and negativism are different, but there are clearly people who are negative. Never understood why some want to use this venue be so negative.

Tried to post "in before the 'LOL, I just call 'em as I see 'em' post," but I may have been too late.
 
Just curious: how would it be a failure by the staff if you believe (realistically) that we won't get any of them? That doesn't make sense. If you are being realistic, then the staff is just status quo and not failing.

People use this board as fun, for discussion and information. Realism and negativism are different, but there are clearly people who are negative. Never understood why some want to use this venue be so negative.

People love negativism and if they can post something under an alias, all the more better.

I read an article about a year ago about the Appalachian Trail. After reading the article, I scrolled to read the comments in the blog. Before there were much more than 6 or 7 comments, 2 people were angrily going back and forth with insults and name-calling.

It was a freaking article on the Appalachian Trail...
 
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It should be a failure to the staff because we should have big time recruits every year. I also believe we won't get any of them. So therefore that's a failure recruiting class. Something just wasn't clicking this year. It would also be a failure because that means we lost 4 big battles to Alabama or Georgia. How can you not see that that's not a failure?

First, I never injected my feelings about the recruits or class. Second, it is odd to me that you are being "realistic" yet calling it a failure if they don't land one of four players.

I have been following recruiting for a long time, and 4 individual players don't make or break a class for me. If we landed Dickerson, Callaway, Pierre, and another DE/DT, then we got good players at needed positions. If anything, this staff has proven that they can evaluate talent, but many ignore that.
 
First, I never injected my feelings about the recruits or class. Second, it is odd to me that you are being "realistic" yet calling it a failure if they don't land one of four players.

I have been following recruiting for a long time, and 4 individual players don't make or break a class for me. If we landed Dickerson, Callaway, Pierre, and another DE/DT, then we got good players at needed positions. If anything, this staff has proven that they can evaluate talent, but many ignore that.

Evaluating talent is good if you can land the talent. Hardman, brown, warrior, and kongbo are huge players. I think it is realistic that we don't land these players because they talk all about other schools and barely us. I'm saying its a failure recruiting class because our biggest fish will be Jarrett which is kind of disapponting. Quarterback isn't even a position of need.
 
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