'15 TN TE Kyle Oliver (UT Signee 2/4/15)

First off- best of luck to the kid, hope he straightens up and balls out somewhere else.

Second- I'm pretty sure Oliver was one of the "not-so-public" blueshirts from this past class. With him not making it in, that opens back up one of the 2016 spots again. With Bruce and Oliver both gone, that means we can take up to 20 without dipping into the 2017 class at all.

He signed in February... He wasn't a blueshirt.
 
First off- best of luck to the kid, hope he straightens up and balls out somewhere else.

Second- I'm pretty sure Oliver was one of the "not-so-public" blueshirts from this past class. With him not making it in, that opens back up one of the 2016 spots again. With Bruce and Oliver both gone, that means we can take up to 20 without dipping into the 2017 class at all.
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obviously something went down with some new kids that caused Butch to call that meeting that lead to some heated exchanges. It sounds like some of the kids came in feeling entitled and here to take advantage of the Power T
 
Was he one of the blueshirts from last class? If so, then that's one more spot for 2016. I bet we definitely take Brooks and Pope now...probably push for Brooks to EE so he can rehab on campus and maybe be ready to go in the fall.
 
I have to wonder if Butch is axing anyone who's even remotely not "on board" right now to free up more scholarships for 2016 or 2017. Sounds like he's making it clear that the team has enough depth at this point where no one is safe and no one gets a free pass anymore, and that scholarships are too valuable to waste on someone who isn't all in.

Either that or Kyle dun goofed big time and Butch has no choice but to drop him.

Either way if you are going to win rings you have to run a tight ship. And you can't start out running a loose ship and then tighten it up later, does not work that way.

Go Vols
 
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Gotta go to the Mosley thread and ask Bruin and Bearcat a question about Butch's discipline. :gone:
 
He signed in February... He wasn't a blueshirt.

I'm not sure how "official" that was, but in order to fit the numbers that we had, we had to blueshirt 7 guys. Bruce & Perry had articles written for them about their "sacrifice" in doing so, but maybe a few of the others didn't want that public, so they just signed something else? Could be wrong, but that's about the only way the numbers would fit.
 
I don't believe that Butch is just looking to cut people. By "not on board," these guys have to be doing something that justifies a release. You would start getting a reputation if you were looking to cut people. It is concerning though that two in-state prospects apparently didn't take this seriously or didn't get along with others.

Not saying he's looking to cut people. But if a player seems to be fairly unenthusiastic about playing hard for Tennessee AND gets caught up in some trouble, Butch may not give them much of a second chance to redeem themselves. One-strike policy probably applies if the player seems to be loafing.

Just speculation, of course.
 
According to VQ (don't remember who specifically), Oliver WAS a BS and this puts us at 21 available scholarships for 2016. Somehow Swafford gave us one as well.

Swafford took a medical...frees up his scholly. The blueshirts in this class were Bruce,Perry and Young.
 
We need every scholarship that we can free up for next year. If you had to pick a few guys to lose from last year's class Bruce and Oliver would be some of the first names you'd pick. His loss.
 
Swafford took a medical...frees up his scholly. The blueshirts in this class were Bruce,Perry and Young.


P_Fortenberry said:
Yes, according to several sources Oliver was a blue shirt so he never signed papers. They get that one back and are now up to 21. Definitely didn't see this coming at the beginning of the summer.
 
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Swafford took a medical...frees up his scholly. The blueshirts in this class were Bruce,Perry and Young.

Either way we have 20 spots or more for 2016.

If we only blue shirted those 3 and lost 1 (Bruce) then we have 23 spots.

If we blue shirted 7 as many claim and lost 2 (Bruce and Oliver) then we have 20 spots.
 
P_Fortenberry said:
Yes, according to several sources Oliver was a blue shirt so he never signed papers. They get that one back and are now up to 21. Definitely didn't see this coming at the beginning of the summer.

Ok...I'm wrong... Guess that wasn't his LOI he faxed in on Signing Day.
 
It would seem that the kids with blue shirts would walk the line at least until they are on scholarship
 
Ok...I'm wrong... Guess that wasn't his LOI he faxed in on Signing Day.

Yeah, I watched those faxes too, but apparently there were 7 guys that blueshirted in this class in order to get under the 25-man limit. I guess those just weren't official. Or they only faxed in their financial aid agreements or something.
 
My question is:

What does this mean for Mosley? If we are sending Oliver home, is Mosley gone too?
 
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