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Pacer92 said:
This is quite possible, but the inner core should've remained intact.

I'm not saying that it was an inside job, however, there are basic laws of physics that these collapses defy. Jmo

Imagine stacking 10 cinder blocks on top of the other. Take a gun and shoot the 6th or 7th block out. Will the remaining 2 or 3 blocks create enough force to pancake the remaining ones to the ground?
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Does this hypothetical gun of ours shoot fully-loaded commercial jetliners?
 
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therealUT said:
I don't need to shut the **** up. This entire remembrance is bull****. We were attacked. Some persons were killed. Boo-****ing-hoo.
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I take it you're not very big on the school of thought that sees the collective mourning/remembrance of national traumas as key to national identity formation.
 
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volprof said:
I take it you're not very big on the school of thought that sees the collective mourning/remembrance of national traumas as key to national identity formation.
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I think it's just containing the ****s given within imaginary borders created by men with too much power. Humans are humans, man. Loss of innocent life sucks, regardless of what nation you're from. Fact is, there are bigger atrocities being committed right now.

Basically, a stranger in Djibouti bears the same existential significance as a stranger in Wyoming.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I think it's just containing the ****s given within imaginary borders created by men with too much power. Humans are humans, man. Loss of innocent life sucks, regardless of what nation you're from. Fact is, there are bigger atrocities being committed right now.

Basically, a stranger in Djibouti bears the same existential significance as a stranger in Wyoming.
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Damned if the 60's hippies haven't been reincarnated. I've heard this stuff before.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I think it's just containing the ****s given within imaginary borders created by men with too much power. Humans are humans, man. Loss of innocent life sucks, regardless of what nation you're from. Fact is, there are bigger atrocities being committed right now.

Basically, a stranger in Djibouti bears the same existential significance as a stranger in Wyoming.
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Wrong. I've actually been to that sh!thole so I can say that with a profound certainty. Life is cheap there..
 
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Pacer92 said:
This is quite possible, but the inner core should've remained intact.

I'm not saying that it was an inside job, however, there are basic laws of physics that these collapses defy. Jmo

Imagine stacking 10 cinder blocks on top of the other. Take a gun and shoot the 6th or 7th block out. Will the remaining 2 or 3 blocks create enough force to pancake the remaining ones to the ground?
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Defy what specific laws of physics? There were all kind of thermal and static stresses at play with the design of those buildings that are more complex than a simple block analogy. Once the buildings were hit it was only a matter of time before the came down in the exact fashion they did.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I think it's just containing the ****s given within imaginary borders created by men with too much power. Humans are humans, man. Loss of innocent life sucks, regardless of what nation you're from. Fact is, there are bigger atrocities being committed right now.

Basically, a stranger in Djibouti bears the same existential significance as a stranger in Wyoming.
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Not to me, it doesn't. My duty is to my tribe.

Kind of like the complaint about why some care more about dogs than humans. Well, I'll tell you why I care more about my dogs and cats than I do humans: because they're a part of my family. They're in my tribe. This is to say that morality and identification are complicated things. I for one, don't believe in a nebulous universal mass of humans as most important; I believe foremost in who I know, who I identify with, who I can directly help/who can directly help me, who I share common interests with, etc.

As far as nation groups are concerned, Americans best meet those requirements for me.

I think you're well-intentioned and certainly if more people thought like you the world would be a better place.

But we can still mourn world suffering while holding those traumas and that suffering experienced by our nation as fundamentally more significant to us than the rest. Because it's our tribe.

And for all its flaws, national tribalism (call it nationalism, if you wish) is the only thing that ever got humans off this planet in the first place. Private industries would have never done it alone. They're too concerned about immediate profits (anti-tribalism) and would never have taken the long-term initiative.

Sorry for the rant. Now back to 9-11.
 
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rjd970 said:
Defy what specific laws of physics? There were all kind of thermal and static stresses at play with the design of those buildings that are more complex than a simple block analogy. Once the buildings were hit it was only a matter of time before the came down in the exact fashion they did.
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There's no way that 10-15 stories is heavy enough to pancake the 90 other stories in demolition fashion. Imo. If it were dropped from outer space maybe...

Fire alone could not do that to a building of that stature in less than an hour.

https://youtu.be/E3EQV223Y-M
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Serious question... you're a pretty intelligent guy. When does steel or metal catastrophically fail by vaporizing into dust? Most materials scientist will tell you that metal fails by yielding (bending) if heated. Also, isn't it amazing that those towers came down perfectly as though it was a controlled demolition? What are the odds that 2 buildings fall in that exact manner? When has any other building before 9/11 or since ever failed in that manner?
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You remind me of that facebook post I saw the other day trying to say that the Vester Lee Flanagan shooting was a setup and fake.

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Pacer92 said:
There's no way that 10-15 stories is heavy enough to pancake the 90 other stories in demolition fashion. Imo. If it were dropped from outer space maybe...

Fire alone could not do that to a building of that stature in less than an hour.

https://youtu.be/E3EQV223Y-M
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In your opinion?

Are you an architect or a construction engineer?

Your opinion.

We know exactly what you're insinuating, even though you said earlier you weren't meaning to insinuate it.

Hey, you're a lot like a Russian then.

I can see the philosophical resemblance. Up is down and down is up.

Please stop.
 
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Pacer92 said:
There's no way that 10-15 stories is heavy enough to pancake the 90 other stories in demolition fashion. Imo. If it were dropped from outer space maybe...

Fire alone could not do that to a building of that stature in less than an hour.

https://youtu.be/E3EQV223Y-M
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I think you were responsible for 9/11. Can you prove that you weren't? Seriously, prove that you didn't cause 9/11.
 
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bamawriter said:
I think you were responsible for 9/11. Can you prove that you weren't? Seriously, prove that you didn't cause 9/11.
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If this goes like similar honest inquiries on this forum, you can expect to be called a "drunk" and an "idiot" here shortly.

Expect no actual answer.
 
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Pacer92 said:
There's no way that 10-15 stories is heavy enough to pancake the 90 other stories in demolition fashion. Imo. If it were dropped from outer space maybe...

Fire alone could not do that to a building of that stature in less than an hour.

https://youtu.be/E3EQV223Y-M
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Fire alone couldn't. But you 9-11 Truthers always seem to forget that there were thousands of tons of jet fuel accelerating the fire. Add to that the structural shock of an object weighing nearly 400 thousand pounds slamming into the building at 200mph.
 
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MG1968 said:
Fire alone couldn't. But you 9-11 Truthers always seem to forget that there were thousands of tons of jet fuel accelerating the fire. Add to that the structural shock of an object weighing nearly 400 thousand pounds slamming into the building at 200mph.
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I get all of that. However, the jet fuel burned off in minutes. I can see the intensity of the fire maybe compromising the strength of the trusses that were involved around the floors where the crash took place, but for 1/10 of the building to generate enough energy to collapse the remaining 90 stories to the ground isn't feasible imo.

The bottom 90 stories had to be weakened for that to happen. The inner core was basically indestructible and it collapsed like a house of cards.
 
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