'14 TN DT Michael Sawyers (UT Signee 2/5/14)

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#VFL__ said:
I wonder why that is leb? Haha

And no, they started with alcohol and cigs.
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Tough for me to buy into that. Once you make the transition to illegal substances, it's usually just down hill from there.

Alcohol and Cigs are legal as long as a person meets the age restrictions. If more parents stepped in when kids start drinking or smoking, maybe we would see more responsible adults down the road.
 
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#VFL__ said:
How long has the scientific community been looking at the benefits and side effects of MJ?
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Not long enough to know the long term effects of marijuana usage. The sad part is, and many don't know this, we intake lots of drugs on any given day when we drink water. SSRIs have an environmental half life of 50+ years. Someone flushes those down the toilet and it goes into our drink water. We can't filter all those drugs out...how does that affect our health long term? I'm not sure it even does, but it's something to think about.

I'm all for using whatever it takes to elevate chronic pain, especially for a child; however, there will be consequences down the road for using synthesized products of marijuana on a regular bases. The only item on this matter that annoys me is joe on the street claiming he needs weed for healing purposes. No, he needs weed to get high. Like I said earlier, this is a highly controversial subject and there's no right or wrong side.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Tough for me to buy into that. Once you make the transition to illegal substances, it's usually just down hill from there.

Alcohol and Cigs are legal as long as a person meets the age restrictions. If more parents stepped in when kids start drinking or smoking, maybe we would see more responsible adults down the road.
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Alcohol and tobacco are both "drugs"
 
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Phat-Phil said:
Alcohol and tobacco are both "drugs"
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Of course I understand that. They are also LEGAL if used in accordance with the law. Marijuana isn't. Its just that simple.

If someone wants to say that puffing on a Marlboro somehow led them to illegal use of marijuana, they can. Its just funny to me.
 
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keckjm said:
The only item on this matter that annoys me is joe on the street claiming he needs weed for healing purposes. No, he needs weed to get high.
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Ok, but even so, what difference does it make? Joe may also drink alcohol to get a buzz or drink coffee because it makes him more alert. That's Joe's decision to make if it isn't dangerous to those around him, not for others to project their morals upon him. There are controlled substances all over the place, but it is very, very inconsistent when it comes to marijuana.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
In reality a lot of much more serious crimes involve folks buying, selling, and using marijuana. A majority of hard drug users will tell you they started with weed.
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Lets not forget that less than 100 years ago alcohol being sold illegally before the prohibition led to GANG WARS, CRIME, and DEATH all the same. Let's see how many people weed kills after it's legalized Leb, and watch the body count for pain killers, cigarettes, and alcohol continue to rise.

Unlike this other substances, marijuana actually helps a vast majority of people with not where near the same side effects as the aforementioned. Op was right, the only thing wrong with it is that it's illegal.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Of course I understand that. They are also LEGAL if used in accordance with the law. Marijuana isn't. Its just that simple.

If someone wants to say that puffing on a Marlboro somehow led them to illegal use of marijuana, they can. Its just funny to me.
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It is in Colorado, Washington and Alaska so how does your ignorant reasoning work geographically speaking?
 
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OrangeHammer said:
Lets not forget that less than 100 years ago alcohol being sold illegally before the prohibition led to GANG WARS, CRIME, and DEATH all the same.
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Excellent point. The criminalization of the substance in demand leads to the crime. If the government made it illegal to possess milk, you can bet a black market and a lot of crime would develop around milk.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Once you make the transition to illegal substances, it's usually just down hill from there.
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This is one of the most unfounded, ignorant statements that you have ever made. Where do you get this crap? I've used illegal substances before and I'm about to graduate with honors, have no criminal record, and am a genuinely good person.

You on the other hand sit across the fence and judge when you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
 
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bignewt said:
It is in Colorado, Washington and Alaska so how does your ignorant reasoning work geographically speaking?
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If it were legal in the state of TN to where the kids in the program would not be booted for using, I wouldn't be saying anything. Of course, that's not the case.
 
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OrangeHammer said:
Lets not forget that less than 100 years ago alcohol being sold illegally before the prohibition led to GANG WARS, CRIME, and DEATH all the same. Let's see how many people weed kills after it's legalized Leb, and watch the body count for pain killers, cigarettes, and alcohol continue to rise.

Unlike this other substances, marijuana actually helps a vast majority of people with not where near the same side effects as the aforementioned. Op was right, the only thing wrong with it is that it's illegal.
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100 years ago. Always a strange defense and reasoning IMO. As its not 100 years ago, and it's illegal today, I'll tend to go with that.
 
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Phat-Phil said:
Most ridiculous argument I've heard is hard drug users start with weed. And I don't even smoke the stuff. But of course there is a natural progression to everything in life. That's like saying breast milk is responsible for overeating.
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It is not the marijuana it is the people you are exposed to. My brother started on weed and progressed from there. It was his choice to hang around with folks that dabbled in other drugs. It was his choice to try harder drugs. He still likes the Devil's Lettuce and always will (his words). I wish he would move to CO so he can be free lol.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If it were legal in the state of TN to where the kids in the program would not be booted for using, I wouldn't be saying anything. Of course, that's not the case.
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That's a weak leg to stand on while you sit back and judge the character of every person who has smoke pot man.

Don't forget the President, who I do t usually stand up for, admitted to using it. Guess his life went right down the gutter and he ended up living a life of regret for his crimes.

Or he ended up in DC where he lives in the white house and is the leader of the free world. But hey, what do I know..
 
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OrangeHammer said:
That's a weak leg to stand on while you sit back and judge the character of every person who has smoke pot man.

Don't forget the President, who I do t usually stand up for, admitted to using it. Guess his life went right down the gutter and he ended up living a life of regret for his crimes.

Or he ended up in DC where he lives in the white house and is the leader of the free world. But hey, what do I know..
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If you dont want problems, don't go looking for them. Something I learned at a young age. Illegal drug use would imo, constitute looking for problems.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If it were legal in the state of TN to where the kids in the program would not be booted for using, I wouldn't be saying anything. Of course, that's not the case.
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I may be wrong but you have been make your statements with a broad stroke. My point is that your ignorant stance on something you do not truly understand and is not even illegal in more and more states every year is clouded by the black and white "its against the law therefore its wrong" line of thinking that has led to alcohol and nicotine killing millions.

How is that for a run on sentence?
 
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rekinhavoc said:
It is not the marijuana it is the people you are exposed to. My brother started on weed and progressed from there. It was his choice to hang around with folks that dabbled in other drugs. It was his choice to try harder drugs. He still likes the Devil's Lettuce and always will (his words). I wish he would move to CO so he can be free lol.
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The gateway to other drugs to me is somewhat interesting. MJ currently is illegal so means of obtaining it are also illegal. Perhaps traveling in those circles to obtain an illegal substance also exposes you to the possibility of other illegal substances.
 
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Well based on the statistics concerning Barack Obama smoking pot lead you to be the president of the free world. Why didn't Barack Obama end up in jail? Why don't you actually answer question instead of running from things and making weak statements?
 
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