'14 TN DE/TE Derek Barnett (UT Signee 2/5/14)

[KBVol]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

Vaginabilt troll. Don't believe everything you read son. Your Vaginabilt education didn't teach you that?

 

[Coach Punk]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

IF it wasn’t painfully obvious this is a troll job, then I’d explain how methodologies create false data.

 

[vol2013]

Talking about going to Vandy for academics over UT and you can't even spell. Please crawl back in your troll hole.

Actually that is a grammar problem

 

[bullet20]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

Shut your pie hole.Troll :finger3::finger3::finger3:

 

[Madkins8]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

Tennessee is in the middle of the pack in the SEC academically. If you think Tennessee is one of the worst 3-4 schools in the SEC you probably belong at Ole Miss.

Those are not legitimate rankings.

 

[checkerboards09]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

It's not obvious at all that you're a commode door troll........

 

[cbbowlingmd]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

lol: I disagree with this. I went there and could have gone anywhere. After college (UT), med school (also UT), residency (also UT) and fellowship, and before coming home to Knoxville, I turned down jobs that later were second pickings for a Vandy grad and a UF grad.

 

[VolsnCards5]

I got into PT school over several Vandy grads. Of course, I didn't go to UT for undergrad, so I don't think this helps anyone's argument.

Vandy sucks

 

[Phat-Phil]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

Why are you pretending to be a Vol fan? Took a quick look at your post history and you talk about vandy in basically every single one of your posts. And your posts just so happen to be in either the threads of vandy commits (Emmanuel Smith and Sawyers) or players who you think are considering vandy. God there are so many vandy fans posing as Vols....why?

 

[vol2002]

from the tweets page

Booth's answer on ask.fm

Q. How's the progress of recruiting the D-Linemen going? (Barnett, Ford, Mosely)
A. I think 2 out of those 3 are ours from talking with them about 1 hour ago

Looks like folks like talking Commodore academics more than this very interesting tweet. Barnett and Mosely, IMO.

 

[OldVol49vfl]

from the tweets page

Booth's answer on ask.fm

Q. How's the progress of recruiting the D-Linemen going? (Barnett, Ford, Mosely)
A. I think 2 out of those 3 are ours from talking with them about 1 hour ago

Barnett = Vol
Mosley = Vol

 

[TNVolunteerGrad]

I already went at it with UT vs Vandy academics in this same thread. Thought we were over this? Be back here next week for some real info.

 

[FiremedicVOL127]

Why are you pretending to be a Vol fan? Took a quick look at your post history and you talk about vandy in basically every single one of your posts. And your posts just so happen to be in either the threads of vandy commits (Emmanuel Smith, and Sawyer's) or players who you think are considering vandy. God there are so many vandy fans posing as Vols....WHY?

Cause they wanna be associated with winners, and there embarrassed to admit there Vandy fans in public!!!

 

[KBVol]

Why are you pretending to be a Vol fan? Took a quick look at your post history and you talk about vandy in basically every single one of your posts. And your posts just so happen to be in either the threads of vandy commits (Emmanuel Smith, and Sawyer's) or players who you think are considering vandy. God there are so many vandy fans posing as Vols....why?

My guess is based on the following data:

2-28 the last 30 years vs UT
5-47 the last 52 years vs UT

 

[Nashvegas31]

Vandy fans have to pose as vol fans on vol boards because they don't have enough fans to have their own board

 

[RichRollin]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

UTs better known for stomping Vandy's ass.

 

[ah83]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

I couldn't resist - not trying to be a jerk or a grammar cop but this was perfect placement...

He'd rather go to Vandy so much more "then" UT for academic purposes. You'd be lucky to get into Pellissippi State with those writing skills!

 

[hikermanvol]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

Vandy has some very good programs, including Latin, philosophy, and medieval history, but that's about it. Nice try troll!

 

[VolGee4]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

I am sorry, but just because Forbes puts out a list doesn't mean it's true. That list is absolutely terrible. Sorry if you believe that. Academically, UT is in the middle of the pack in the SEC. The fact that Mississippi State, UK, South Carolina, and even Arkansas is ahead of UT is ludicrous. If you look at the criteria of their calculation, one is a student survey, which can be skewed. The other is earnings after graduation, and that is where the East TN region hurts. Oak Ridge and Pilot are about the only huge employers. Arkansas has WalMart, JB Hunt, and Tyson right in its backyard.

The lottery and Hope Scholarship has done wonders for UT. It has allowed the state to keep really bright individuals, who would otherwise leave the state. That is why MTSU is now the biggest school in TN. UT has award winning programs in logistics, engineering, law, medical in Memphis, and space in Tullahoma. That list is bunk.

 

[RockyTop85]

Those lists are always bunk. It's like saying you should go to Alabama for athletics because they have so many national championships.

Never mind that there might be quite a few individual sports at which they suck.

 

[MockingVol]

Those lists are always bunk. It's like saying you should go to Alabama for athletics because they have so many national championships.

Never mind that there might be quite a few individual sports at which they suck.

That is actually a fantastic allusion, good job on that one

 

[KBVol]

UTs better known for stomping Vandy's ass.

....over and over and over and.....

 

[UTProf]

I'm a huge UT fan from birth but I would rather go to Vandy so so so much more then UT for the academics. Just look at the latest Forbes rankings we finished 282nd (last in the SEC) embarrassing. UT is not a good school for academics.

America's Top Colleges List - Forbes

One look at the methodology and you'd know how flawed this 'ranking system' is:

1. Student Satisfaction (25%)

• Student Evaluations from RateMyProfessor.com (15%)

lol: A website that literally anyone can use including non-students and that even under the best of circumstances draws a sample that is self-selecting rather than either randomized samples or samples that include anonymous surveys of all students in any given class. Further, it's subject to easy manipulation by professors, colleges, universities, and regular people with either an axe to grind or agenda (both good and bad) and it counts as 15 percent!

• Actual Freshman-to-Sophomore Retention Rates(5%)

Because the University of Tennessee is the most affordable major school and has a mission to educate as many students from the state as possible it draws a lot of students who eventually find it's not for them, can't afford it without the HOPE scholarships (and you do have to maintain a certain GPA to keep one), or otherwise fail (freshmen year is typically the most difficult at UT). Further, UT is a system and UTK is merely the flagship campus.

• Predicted vs. Actual Freshman-to-Sophomore Retention Rates(5%)

Are you kidding me? A school that predicts it's own retention rates better gets a higher score?! Gee, that's accurate and not subject to manipulation at all. lol:

Also, a dirty little secret of so-called highly selective schools, expensive private schools, as well as virtually all graduate programs regardless of college or university (including medical and law schools) is that while it's hard to get in it's virtually impossible to flunk out. Since this involves undergrads it's a methodology that favors expensive, private, and/or selective schools over others. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy as well.

2. Post-Graduate Success (35%)

• Salary of Alumni from Payscale.com (15%)
  

Again with websites that lack rigorous methods and provide flawed samples... However, beyond that Tennessee lags behind most states in pay and in proportion many more of UT's students are Tennesseans. To add to the absurdity, the study's authors admit that payscale.com looks at pay for people in similar jobs across regions -- it doesn't measure post-graduation pay.

• American Leaders List (20%)
  

Just another way of using a flawed payment methodology with an added bonus of including areas like fortune 500 CEOs and membership in the Big Five Orchestras (all found in cities outside the South) that students who come from less working and middle-class backgrounds are unlikely to pursue. The same criticisms noted on 'pay' also apply in biasing rankings against UT and other public schools, particularly public schools located in the South that draw from a student pool that is less likely to move out of state.

Since those two categories (and their subcategories) account for 60 percent of a school's score, I see no reason to go further.

These methods are an absolute disgrace.

 

[Ron Swanson]

"So, with the newest flurry of commitments, what does the board look like? On defense, it's start with the defensive line and instate players Charles Mosley and Derek Barnett and Tennessee continues to be in a two team race for each player. Tennessee is still in good shape with Barnett and battling with Vanderbilt for him. While he's talked about doing something in August, he also said there's a real change he waits a little longer to do anything. But don't take that to mean something is wrong for Tennessee, in fact it could be a good thing for the Vols as he continues to look closely at both programs."

- VQ

 

[wU-Tang Vol]

"So, with the newest flurry of commitments, what does the board look like? On defense, it's start with the defensive line and instate players Charles Mosley and Derek Barnett and Tennessee continues to be in a two team race for each player. Tennessee is still in good shape with Barnett and battling with Vanderbilt for him. While he's talked about doing something in August, he also said there's a real change he waits a little longer to do anything. But don't take that to mean something is wrong for Tennessee, in fact it could be a good thing for the Vols as he continues to look closely at both programs."

- VQ

Aka, Butch asked him to wait a little while to pick up a little momentum during the season.