'14 NC CB Emmanuel Moseley (UT Commit 9/10/13)

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I watched his highlights, I watch the all star game. We got a good one that after a RS will be competing for playing time with an up and coming SEC traditional powerhouse. He is a winner as Ron says. I could tell he could read the schemes and plays of the offenses he went against. So his football smarts are good. His speed and recovery are excellent as are his hips and locating the ball. He needs more muscle and practice reps - which is the point of the RS.

I really could care less what Woody says. I know CWM saw what he could get done with EM and offered him early in the recruiting period. That tells me all I need to know.
 
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105437 said:
Agree with everything you said except I believe Cam's technique is exceptional. Sure, it can get better but I've never seen a kid straight out of HS with technique like he has... well beyond his years. Cam will not be here 4 years IMO.
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I apologize I wasn't meaning to sound like I think his technique is bad, just saying him being a TF, well TS now he has room to grow and get better. But just saying that I think his best asset at this stage is his competitiveness.
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
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"I ain't worried bout nothin!" Lol. Tell me you've seen that vine?
 
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Ron Swanson said:
One thing I really like about Moseley is that he's a winner and a team first guy. His team needed him to move over and play QB this fall and all he did was go undefeated and lead his team to a 4A state championship. We need more winners at UT.
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Didn't foreman or swafford do that too?
 
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OrangeLynx said:
I don't think Woody is being unprofessional. I think Woody's problem is once he evaluates a player, he is reluctant to change his evaluation. He would rather defend his initial ranking than admit that his initial evaluation was off, perhaps due to the player developing or from Woody not having sufficient materials to evaluate him. I think the problem is more ego than anything he has against Moseley.

Woody doesn't want to change his evaluation. Therefore, he spends more time pointing out what is wrong with Moseley rather than things he does well. I agree Moseley is no 4 star, but he should be either a 5.6 or 5.7.

Woody has caught heat from other fan bases for his evaluations too. GA fans were really mad at his evaluation of one of their DT commits, Lamont Galliard. He is a 3 star on rivals, but is a 5 star on 247, the number 2 overall DT on ESPN, number 3 overall DT on Scout, AND a UA All American. Woody's opinion on the other sites disagreeing with Rival's 3 star evaluation? "We don't use their rankings for ours. Too much group-think potential." Sigh. With Galliard, at least the ranking isn't due to a refusal to change his rankings, as rivals had him ranked high then dropped him.

Evaluators aren't coaches. Im sure Woody and Rivals are upset they don't get to choose the MVP, because the Shrine Bowl's choice made their rankings look off on the defensive side. Can't wait for Moseley to get to UT, have a redshirt year, and enter the 2015 season with 1.5 years of Lawson's strength program, Martinez lessons on technique, and all the meat and potatoes he can eat.
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All of this. Well said. :good!:
 
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I actually think he's rated appropriately. He's a huge project. Will have to redshirt. He's rail thin and he's learning a new position. People comparing him to Sutton are being ridiculous. I dont see any comparison between the two out of high school. Sutton was way more college ready and had much better offers also. If anything he was the one who was underrated coming out.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I actually think he's rated appropriately. He's a huge project. Will have to redshirt. He's rail thin and he's learning a new position. People comparing him to Sutton are being ridiculous. I dont see any comparison between the two out of high school. Sutton was way more college ready and had much better offers also. If anything he was the one who was underrated coming out.
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I agree, this young definitely needs an RS to learn his position. The one thing that he has in his favor that could help him though is his speed. This kid could do well with some good coaching.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I actually think he's rated appropriately. He's a huge project. Will have to redshirt. He's rail thin and he's learning a new position. People comparing him to Sutton are being ridiculous. I dont see any comparison between the two out of high school. Sutton was way more college ready and had much better offers also. If anything he was the one who was underrated coming out.
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The comparison to Sutton comes from the fact that both are great athletes and if you remember was projected as a WR by ESPN and really was just learning the CB position. Also you have to see this kid play live he has ELITE speed and has the tools to be a solid CB. His weight is probably one of the reasons why he isn't that highly rated out of HS also the kid didn't camp much. The services miss on a large number of kids every year so to call him underrated isn't a crazy thought. On top of that he balled out against great competition in NC.

I agree with you about Cam being more ready from a physical stand point though. Mosley will need all the meat and mash potatoes he can get over the next year. He'll be able to get his weight up to about 185 and compete come 2015.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I actually think he's rated appropriately. He's a huge project. Will have to redshirt. He's rail thin and he's learning a new position. People comparing him to Sutton are being ridiculous. I dont see any comparison between the two out of high school. Sutton was way more college ready and had much better offers also. If anything he was the one who was underrated coming out.
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We're not calling him Sutton. Sutton put in a lot of work in the offseason to get to where he was before he got to UT. Word I got was that he was a much better WR. But we see what he is right now.
 
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volfrk86 said:
I wouldnt be surprised to see Payne and Mosely in the rotation at corner especially if Coleman plays nickel.
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Will he play CB? In the all star practice and game he supposedly struggled at CB, especially more physical receivers but was better at safety. Just curious what he has been told his position would be and is he all defense or possible offensive guy.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
The comparison to Sutton comes from the fact that both are great athletes and if you remember was projected as a WR by ESPN and really was just learning the CB position. Also you have to see this kid play live he has ELITE speed and has the tools to be a solid CB. His weight is probably one of the reasons why he isn't that highly rated out of HS also the kid didn't camp much. The services miss on a large number of kids every year so to call him underrated isn't a crazy thought. On top of that he balled out against great competition in NC.

I agree with you about Cam being more ready from a physical stand point though. Mosley will need all the meat and mash potatoes he can get over the next year. He'll be able to get his weight up to about 185 and compete come 2015.
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Really can see him playing this year, even if just on special teams. He could easily get up over 185-200 by time fall practice starts. Its amazing the weight and strength they can put on a HS kid, especially one enrolling early. Doubt he starts at corner this year as raw as he is but definitely need speed upgrade on special teams.
 
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amazingGRACE said:
Still refuse to see how woody is bashing the kid.


He's just giving his honest evaluation
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+1. He's never bashed him. Most of his evluation I agree with. And people act like he keeps going on and on about him, but that is only because the VQ people wont let it go. He's not the one starting all the idiotic threads on Moseley, it's the VQ posters who aren't letting it go and causing Woody to continually defend his rating. If they had just let things go after Woody's first comments on his evaluation it wouldn't seem nearly as bad as it does.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
We're not calling him Sutton. Sutton put in a lot of work in the offseason to get to where he was before he got to UT. Word I got was that he was a much better WR. But we see what he is right now.
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Yeah I'm not saying you were calling him Sutton... it was for the people who were saying because Sutton was rated similarly, Moseley is going to have a freshman season just like him.

Some still dont grasp the fact that what Sutton did as a true freshman was not the norm and 99% of prospects rated like him will not have that type of impact.

As far as Moseley, what I see right now is someone who physically is not going to be ready right away. And there is nothing wrong with that. Let the kid mature and take his time developing. He does have speed and raw athletic ability. I just expect it will take time for him to adjust to the college game before he makes any kind of an impact.
 
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amazingGRACE said:
This.

I'm failing to see how woody is butthurt just because he said Moseley was beat on a play.
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If you followed his recruitment on Rivals, you would have seen how Woody has caught some heat for his ongoing analysis of Moseley. I think Ron was joking about Woody being 'mad'.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
Yeah I'm not saying you were calling him Sutton... it was for the people who were saying because Sutton was rated similarly, Moseley is going to have a freshman season just like him.

Some still dont grasp the fact that what Sutton did as a true freshman was not the norm and 99% of prospects rated like him will not have that type of impact.

As far as Moseley, what I see right now is someone who physically is not going to be ready right away. And there is nothing wrong with that. Let the kid mature and take his time developing. He does have speed and raw athletic ability. I just expect it will take time for him to adjust to the college game before he makes any kind of an impact.
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He's a project no doubt. I like him as a project though. He has a ton of potential.
 
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