'14 CA CB Adoree' Jackson (Signed with USC)

#927
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Ok, serious question as I don't know. With the SEC setting the class limit at 25, if our numbers only allow us to take say 19 in 2015, could we actually over sign (2) for 2014 as we are taking 19 the next year and the 6 scholarship penalty would more less be nothing?

Or does the penalty come off what you can actually take?

I guess this would be for POA as I think that is what your hinting at.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I guess if he is that good we could always take him and just take the 3 scholarship penalty toward the 2015 class for over signing.
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No, there are smarter ways of making it work. Perhaps grey shirt a lower rated player to let him develop, and bring him on in '15. He is that good, but nobody is good enough to take that kind of hit.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
Ok, serious question as I don't know. With the SEC setting the class limit at 25, if our numbers only allow us to take say 19 in 2015, could we actually over sign (2) for 2014 as we are taking 19 the next year and the 6 scholarship penalty would more less be nothing?

Or does the penalty come off what you can actually take?

I guess this would be for POA as I think that is what your hinting at.
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im not clear on the rule, but your example is what i was getting at...

and say we took 2 and we're only aloud to take 19... because we took those 2, it would make it 17 that we could take which means we could take 1 more extra and that would balance out to 16

sorry if what im saying is confusing

Example.
Yearly limit 25. but the 85 limit restricts us to 19. so we have 6 yearly limit spots to lose to put us at 19... so we sign 2 extras. But because they also work against the 85 limit, we could then only sign 17 in 2015. so we actually have 8 spots going to waste... so if we sign 3 that would put us at 16.
 
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TNnative said:
No, there are smarter ways of making it work. Perhaps grey shirt a lower rated player to let him develop, and bring him on in '15. He is that good, but nobody is good enough to take that kind of hit.
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That is what I am against. I think if a committed player has shut down their recruitment and is all VOL, telling them the night before NSD they will have to GS and not be a part of the team for a year to make room for "a higher rated guy" is wrong on a lot of different levels. When news broke a class or so ago that bama may try to force a RB commitment(TN was recruiting) to GS on NSD it was wrong to just about everyone. Yet people would be ok doing it to one of our own? Not me.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
That is what I am against. I think if a committed player has shut down their recruitment and is all VOL, telling them the night before NSD they will have to GS and not be a part of the team for a year to make room for "a higher rated guy" is wrong on a lot of different levels. When news broke a class or so ago that bama may try to force a RB commitment(TN was recruiting) to GS on NSD it was wrong to just about everyone. Yet people would be ok doing it to one of our own? Not me.
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just made an edit to my previous post. see if you can make sense of what i was trying to say
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
im not clear on the rule, but your example is what i was getting at...

and say we took 2 and we're only aloud to take 19... because we took those 2, it would make it 17 that we could take which means we could take 1 more extra and that would balance out to 16

sorry if what im saying is confusing

Example.
Yearly limit 25. but the 85 limit restricts us to 19. so we have 6 yearly limit spots to lose to put us at 19... so we sign 2 extras. But because they also work against the 85 limit, we could then only sign 17 in 2015. so we actually have 8 spots going to waste... so if we sign 3 that would put us at 16.
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That makes sense and I think would not be a good move no matter what the kid was ranked. People feel we will hold a couple spots up until NSD in case a Jackson or a Garrett wants in. My question is who do we tell to wait to do that? Would it be wise to slow play a DT in hopes of a big fish on NSD? Do we tell the twins to wait if they try and commit tomorrow? I just don't see it working out.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
That is what I am against. I think if a committed player has shut down their recruitment and is all VOL, telling them the night before NSD they will have to GS and not be a part of the team for a year to make room for "a higher rated guy" is wrong on a lot of different levels. When news broke a class or so ago that bama may try to force a RB commitment(TN was recruiting) to GS on NSD it was wrong to just about everyone. Yet people would be ok doing it to one of our own? Not me.
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Lebanon, I am not against it too. However, if it gives the player time to gain weight if he is underweight for his position, he doesn't burn a year of eligibility sitting on the bench. I would only do that if it is first in that player's best interest to GS.

My point was and still is do not take a penalty for over signing.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
That makes sense and I think would not be a good move no matter what the kid was ranked. People feel we will hold a couple spots up until NSD in case a Jackson or a Garrett wants in. My question is who do we tell to wait to do that? Would it be wise to slow play a DT in hopes of a big fish on NSD? Do we tell the twins to wait if they try and commit tomorrow? I just don't see it working out.
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Twins should've committed a while back. IMO All this waiting around and there are better players available is bothering me.
 
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I say we just let it all play out. By the time Jackson decides tons of things could happen, we might not have to tell anyone to look elsewhere. Perhaps someone currently commited decommits, a bench warmer currently on campus might decide to transfer, etc. I'm gonna say it all works itself out. JMO.
 
#943
#943
I would say the very act of accepting the commitment of a highly ranked player tends to create the space for him. Put yourself in the shoes of the guy that just became the lowest ranked of 6 WRs. When it starts to sink in that you may well not play much...and other schools start banging on you with that same mantra...suddenly flipping starts looking better. Butch and company have been recruiting for a while. They understand the dynamics, and I'm certain that they are well versed in how to resolve the numbers without hurting feelings or selling their souls.
 
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#945
Where did the loss of 3 scholarships thing come from? Been tryin to find that since Swanson brought it up earlier in the week, to no avail. Anybody got a source?

Also, I'm buying what Montrell Hardy said that at some point this season we carry more than 30 commits for at least some time. I have no idea how that situation will be handled but our coaches seem to be pretty good at this recruiting thing so...
 
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