'14 CA CB Adoree' Jackson (Signed with USC)

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BleedorangeinGA said:
Chandler,

Come on man, your post seemed very knowledgeable and detailed. No need in calling the guy a moron because he respectfully challenged your opinion.
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I will call him a moron, when i believe people are possibly screwing up a kid with a ton of ability's life. (Also, I'm pretty sure UT tix 79 is a gator fan not a UT fan btw which is why his responses are so ridiculous). I support AJ following whatever dream he wishes to go into. If he wants to be a T&F star, hey more power to him, i'd love for him to win a gold medal for the US. If he wants to be a great football player, again I want him at UT, but i can't find a reason why LSU or UF are not equally good choices all things being equal.

I do have a serious problem with people, and coaches lying their asses off, and giving a kid terrible advice to serve their own selfish purposes. We all know college football is all about money, and it can get very very dirty. If people are telling him he can go to the Olympics and play SEC football, they are clearly misleading the kid or not very knowledgeable and that is terrible. There is no need for a school like UF to mislead AJ, the school has enough good things going for it to not put in false hopes and unrealistic feats in his head that could eventually ruin AJ, if he doesn't settle into 1 sport.
 
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chandler bing said:
I will call him a moron, when i believe people are possibly screwing up a kid with a ton of ability's life. I support AJ following whatever dream he wishes to go into. If he wants to be a T&F star, hey more power to him, i'd love for him to win a gold medal for the US. If he wants to be a great football player, again I want him at UT, but i can't find a reason why LSU or UF are not equally good choices all things being equal.

I do have a serious problem with people, and coaches lying their asses off, and giving a kid terrible advice to serve their own selfish purposes. We all know college football is all about money, and it can get very very dirty. If people are telling him he can go to the Olympics and play SEC football, they are clearly misleading the kid or not very knowledgeable and that is terrible. There is no need for a school like UF to mislead AJ, the school has enough good things going for it to not put in false hopes and unrealistic feats in his head that could eventually ruin AJ, if he doesn't settle into 1 sport.
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college coaches are salemen...CBJ and Zo told Sharpe he could play both and was a SEC talent in both sports. It happens but UF T&F offered him in 9th grade so Im pretty sure that was bc of talent and not lying for football reason. As I stated it crazy to think his camp hasnt talked to others outside of college coaches. Maybe he gets to campus and decides to just be a T&F guy or football.
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HialeahGator said:
college coaches are salemen...CBJ and Zo told Sharpe he could play both and was a SEC talent in both sports. It happens but UF T&F offered him in 9th grade so Im pretty sure that was bc of talent and not lying for football reason. As I stated it crazy to think his camp hasnt talked to others outside of college coaches. Maybe he gets to campus and decides to just be a T&F guy or football.
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Yes HG, they offered him in track, and he can be a good track guy for any program, with potential to be elite. Where i have a problem with UF, is the fact that they are telling AJ that their long jump coach has gotten the last 2 guys to the olympics and that they can do the same for him. That is clearly misleading. What is funny is AJ can run track at all 3 programs. All 3 programs compared to 90% of the other programs, have the resources and support to make him into a very good T&F guy at the college level. If you are selling a kid on your T&F's coach being elite and the olympics, that is a bunch of BS in my book. Just be truthful. UF just needs to point out their DB success, they have a great track program to be a part of, great weather and academics and pretty girls. That is plenty of great points plus they can point out they offered him early, so they have been their since the beginning. No need to lie or mislead the kid, which HG, we know UF has already done.

Also the Sharpe comparison is terrible. We told Sharpe he could play basketball and football. Nothing more, nothing less. Further, as you have seen our bball team is 6-4 and underachieving so it's not like hes coming into an elite bball program either. If you wanted to make your comparison similar, our basketball coach would be telling him that he can make him a lottery pick in the NBA while playing football.
 
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chandler bing said:
There is absolutely, positively no way he is going to be an elite long jumper and playing SEC football at UF, UT or LSU. This is not about crushing his dreams, this is about reality. He has the ability to excel at one or the other, unfortunately the skills and training required to be elite at both will not translate well to the other sport.
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I would not say there is no way. I seem to recall a guy in the early 80's that was a great T&F guy that came in second to Carl Lewis. Also went on to be in the winter olympics as well. I agree with you that is almost impossible, but I wouldn't say it is impossible.

Justin Hunter was pretty good in his own right, I think he was ranked #3 in the long jump.
 
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chandler bing said:
I will call him a moron, when i believe people are possibly screwing up a kid with a ton of ability's life. I support AJ following whatever dream he wishes to go into. If he wants to be a T&F star, hey more power to him, i'd love for him to win a gold medal for the US. If he wants to be a great football player, again I want him at UT, but i can't find a reason why LSU or UF are not equally good choices all things being equal.

I do have a serious problem with people, and coaches lying their asses off, and giving a kid terrible advice to serve their own selfish purposes. We all know college football is all about money, and it can get very very dirty. If people are telling him he can go to the Olympics and play SEC football, they are clearly misleading the kid or not very knowledgeable and that is terrible. There is no need for a school like UF to mislead AJ, the school has enough good things going for it to not put in false hopes and unrealistic feats in his head that could eventually ruin AJ, if he doesn't settle into 1 sport.
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Recruits know coaches blow sunshine up their asses. It's no secret how it works. And a 5 star recruit who has been getting the full treatment since he was recruited to play high school ball, well I'll bet he can smell the bullsh*t a mile a way. And if he can't, the family sure as heck can! I would love to see the verbatim quotes of Florida or LSU saying they would get him to the Olympics. That sounds taken out of context, poorly worded, or completely untrue. Do you have any source?
 
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Volunteer_Kirby said:
Recruits know coaches blow sunshine up their asses. It's no secret how it works. And a 5 star recruit who has been getting the full treatment since he was recruited to play high school ball, well I'll bet he can smell the bullsh*t a mile a way. And if he can't, the family sure as heck can! I would love to see the verbatim quotes of Florida or LSU saying they would get him to the Olympics. That sounds taken out of context, poorly worded, or completely untrue. Do you have any source?
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LSU coaches to my knowledge haven't. UF coaches have, and yes go read any number of AJ articles over the past year and you will see AJ talking up about UF's track program, their LJ coach and his success with his athletes and how he can come and in do the same. I'm not going to bother to look up something that is all over this thread and on the internet.
 
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secking said:
I would not say there is no way. I seem to recall a guy in the early 80's that was a great T&F guy that came in second to Carl Lewis. Also went on to be in the winter olympics as well. I agree with you that is almost impossible, but I wouldn't say it is impossible.

Justin Hunter was pretty good in his own right, I think he was ranked #3 in the long jump.
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Which helps his argument, Hunter was better at LJ than Adoree and even he quit track. Had to focus on one or the other. Hunter would've almost certainly been an Olympian.
 
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chandler bing said:
Yes HG, they offered him in track, and he can be a good track guy for any program, with potential to be elite. Where i have a problem with UF, is the fact that they are telling AJ that their long jump coach has gotten the last 2 guys to the olympics and that they can do the same for him. That is clearly misleading. What is funny is AJ can run track at all 3 programs. All 3 programs compared to 90% of the other programs, have the resources and support to make him into a very good T&F guy at the college level. If you are selling a kid on your T&F's coach being elite and the olympics, that is a bunch of BS in my book. Just be truthful. UF just needs to point out their DB success, they have a great track program to be a part of, great weather and academics and pretty girls. That is plenty of great points plus they can point out they offered him early, so they have been their since the beginning. No need to lie or mislead the kid, which HG, we know UF has already done.

Also the Sharpe comparison is terrible. We told Sharpe he could play basketball and football. Nothing more, nothing less. Further, as you have seen our bball team is 6-4 and underachieving so it's not like hes coming into an elite bball program either. If you wanted to make your comparison similar, our basketball coach would be telling him that he can make him a lottery pick in the NBA while playing football.
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nothing bout what either coach is saying would be a lie. UF last two SEc champ LJ won medals. Coach also got a part time T&F guy a relay medal in Demps. If the kid wasnt a football player one of the best T&F programs still would be after him. AJ talks up UF T&F bc he knows its Top 3 and the staff has success getting kids on Team USA.
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HialeahGator said:
nothing bout what either coach is saying would be a lie. UF last two SEc champ LJ won medals. Coach also got a part time T&F guy a relay medal in Demps. If the kid wasnt a football player one of the best T&F programs still would be after him. AJ talks up UF T&F bc he knows its Top 3 and the staff has success getting kids on Team USA.
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Again the 2 guys that went in long jump were pure track athletes, not part time football players.

Demps ran the 100 and 200. Playing football was not ideal, but that event at least has some carry over to football. Long jump training, which obviously you don't know much about has nothing in common with football. If he wants to get above 27 feet, he is going to have to quit playing football. If he wants to be a good 25-26 long jumper he can do both but still put a lot of work into track which takes away from football. Or vice versa. No friggin way he goes anywhere near 27 feet without completely quitting football and training on long jump for the next 5 years. To put ideas of olympics or even mention that is just stupid and misleading. It is beyond obvious the UF coaches have been selling that their track program is better and has a ton of success in the LJ and he can come in and be the next star. At 25 feet and playing football at his height, he is not going to be the next NCAA Long jump star if some things don't drastically change I.E. he gains a few inches and quits playing football. He has too many things working against him to achieve Olympic level ability....honestly if a T&F guy read some of the stuff people are posting, they would be really angry. This is totally insulting to the long jump Olympians that have trained for 15 years with just as much or more god given ability than AJ and insulting the work and accomplishments they are doing.

Just stop with the Olympics nonsense, please because that is never happening if he is playing SEC football. Oh and for the last time, even if he wasn't playing football and focused on track, its still not likely. He is probably at best a 26'5 kinda guy which is great, but its not going to make the US Olympic team, nor is it going to medal.
 
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Will Claye placed 2nd in the 2009 Junior Nationals with a jump of 25' 7"

Jumped 24' 9" to qualify for College nationals

Christian Taylor jumped 25' 6" as a high school senior

The best jump ever by a high school kid was set in 1989 at 26' 4"

So, jumping 25' as a high school junior tells you that there's no way this kid ever makes the Olympics?

There was 1 other kid in high school last year that cleared 24 feet, and that was Travonn White out of Phoenix Arizona who jumped 24' 6" wind aided.

So, you're an idiot. But, thanks for playing
 
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Eugene Hetalia said:
UT_Tix79
Where is your Gator Badge?
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Right next to yours.

How am I a Gator fan? I've said I want Adoree here, and I think he can make the Olympics. Chandler says there's no way he will, and I know for a fact that Adoree reads these boards, and I believe he can reach his dream and make the Olympics here.

He's said from day 1 his goal was to reach the Olympics, and if he had to choose football or track, he would choose track. Why would we be telling him he can't make the Olympics? We should be telling him he can be an all American cb, wr, kick returner, national champion long jumper, and an Olympian
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
Right next to yours.

How am I a Gator fan? I've said I want Adoree here, and I think he can make the Olympics. Chandler says there's no way he will, and I know for a fact that Adoree reads these boards, and I believe he can reach his dream and make the Olympics here.

He's said from day 1 his goal was to reach the Olympics, and if he had to choose football or track, he would choose track. Why would we be telling him he can't make the Olympics? We should be telling him he can be an all American cb, wr, kick returner, national champion long jumper, and an Olympian
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I said there is no way he is going to be an Olympian long jumper playing SEC football. Justin Hunter jumped about 26 feet as a HS senior and high jumped 7'3. He had more ability than Adoree at long jump who has more football ability than Justin Hunter. He's going to have to pick one if he wants to maximize his potential in either. The requisite training for football and long jump are not even close to each other. He will not do himself any favors in either over the long term if he is doing both seriously, that is a fact.

He can however get very good coaching, maybe not the best coaching at UT for long jump, and still make football his primary sport and end up a NFL lottery pick. The olympic goal will be around for another 10 years. Becoming a first round pick has a 3-4 year window. If he is talented as UF coaches are telling him he will know after year 1 in college which sport to focus on if he has future Olympic potential. It's not like AJ is the first elite track\football guy i've seen over the years attempt to do both, but none have succeeded at both. If RGIII couldn't do both, i doubt anyone can in the modern NFL and modern T&F world. Both sports are so specialized and so competetive, its almost impossible to do both, and to do it in an event like the long jump and football, that is just not remotely realistic. He can however, be a very good college long jumper and a great DB\kick return specialist with a few special offense sets, but again, if he tries to do all of that in football, no way he is going to be able to do track. If he wants to be in that many packages offensively\ST's and defense full time, he is going to have to dedicate himself to football.
 
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If he doesn't come here, I'm blaming all this excessive arguing over his track career.

Dude loves football and track. He can get both at all of his top choices. Enough said.
 
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*Muschamp doesn't do well next year he is gone. A lot uncertainty surrounding the football program.
*UT could use him immediately at CB, PR, KR and in some offensive snaps. All of it is guess work on how much he gets on the field at either school but his chances are better to immediately see the field a lot at UT over at UF or LSU. We simply do not have that kind of dynamic playmaker right now. It is arguable every other team he is considering does.
 
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DaddyChad said:
but his chances are better to immediately see the field a lot at UT over at UF or LSU
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Depends imho. As a scat-type back, if he is good, he could be used in that capacity. Jeryl Brazil was kicked off the team and that was going to be his position. Trindon Holliday's old position.

I don't see him hitting the field on defense, but I won't beat that dead horse. RB/WR (scat back) and PR. LSU will be losing Landry and Beckham early to the draft who handled most of the PR/KR duties.
 
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I'm just glad the the Adoree' Jackson thread is now at the top of the list rather than the Lambert one!
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UT can help with his Olympic dreams. Tell him if he wants to score he has to LJ in from the 10 yard line.
 
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