13th game

#26
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GVF said:
So with the ACC game having UVA (10-2, #17) and Duke at 5 losses (unranked) and they win, that will really screw a team somewhere in there. And likely screws someone if UVA wins at #17. Either way, the ACC seems to be bung holing someone with that matchup. Heck them and miami at #12 are the only two they got in Top 20. And losing to UVA really messed up the selection critieria for some teams hoping to fall up.
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Miami should just be the ACC rep
 
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GVF said:
I get it, but if you adopt that model, even if you tweak it, it goes along way to kill the arguments, lesser teams get rewarded and 2025's Texas, Miami, and Vandy get in and make up for the light games. The blowouts can happen with all 12 teams being P4, so that's not a given. Happened to more than just us last year. Happened to TnTech against a 7-5 North Dakota in 1st round this year. But I think overall the 24 team playoff makes it a better and stronger field overall even if the Tulane's, NT's, and JMU are set up for a blowout. Plus, the chance of excitement when they do knock someone off. As a fan in general, that model allows you to see if someone like Vandy can hang and run the table. That carrys more than a G5 getting rocked.
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I get it and I'm a "more football means I can tell the wife 'There's a game on. It's the playoffs. I will hit the honey do list later' which is always good" kind of guy at heart.

I've just grown cynical to what is a pretty obvious money grab by the CFP to expand, then wait for fallout over that expansion, and expand again.

They're just grinning and nodding at ESPN like pro poker players in Vegas sitting at the table with a whale who just knows "his luck will change." Up the ante again and deal the cards....

It's less fun when I realize I'm the one being played instead of the games.
 
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LouderVol said:
I think they would need more than 1 game to make their case. Here's an idea that I think would help Vandy.

One game isn't enough, so we need a pretty good sample size. It obviously needs to match up timing wise with school being in session. most colleges that is 15 weeks. 15 games would be too much, so lets do 12 games, thats a pretty good sample size. that gives them a couple breaks to help with injuries and avoid finals.

now they need someone to play, I suggest some sort regional play where you play schools within the same geographic region for the most part. this way you get some interplay and head to head match ups for good comparisons at the end of the 12 games. of course you can throw in some other teams just for different data points. but mostly you are playing your neighbors, and as you have multiple years of this, you get some good long term data on generally who is "good" or not.

to that end maybe we come out with some form of system to order the teams based on their perceived strengths. looking at how these teams do in those 12 games to give some form of judgement without relying on the raw data. probably need some sort of group to make those judgements based on the data at hand.

I think once all of that is done, Vandy will have a pretty good case for the playoff committee. just do good enough, and you are in.
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lol. you had to be laughing the whole time you typed that.
 
#31
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farmdogvol said:
Vandy is throwing out the idea of an extra game to impress the CFP committee. Not sure who would be willing to play them. How about play in games for the CFP like in March Madness. We could have Vandy vs. Miami and ND vs Tex to determine who gets in. Those games would be better than the ACC championship game. Who would y'all like to see?
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nah.....**** vandy
 
#32
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I get it and I'm a "more football means I can tell the wife 'There's a game on. It's the playoffs. I will hit the honey do list later' which is always good" kind of guy at heart.

I've just grown cynical to what is a pretty obvious money grab by the CFP to expand, then wait for fallout over that expansion, and expand again.

They're just grinning and nodding at ESPN like pro poker players in Vegas sitting at the table with a whale who just knows "his luck will change." Up the ante again and deal the cards....

It's less fun when I realize I'm the one being played instead of the games.
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lol. That don't always work for me. She will tell me when I get in on Staurday's "Hey Tennesse is on " and I get that game relatively undisturbed. The others get interrupted a bit. She seems to know when commercials are on. She's also an LSU fan, so she's usually cussing at the TV and headed to the bedroom 3 minutes in. If they are looking good she lasts about half the first quarter.
 
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GVF said:
lol. That don't always work for me. She will tell me when I get in on Staurday's "Hey Tennesse is on " and I get that game relatively undisturbed. The others get interrupted a bit. She seems to know when commercials are on. She's also an LSU fan, so she's usually cussing at the TV and headed to the bedroom 3 minutes in. If they are looking good she lasts about half the first quarter.
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Ain't they cute when they're a little riled up?

The other night she saw me eyeballing some little cutie on the screen a little too much and came up behind my recliner to put a pillow over my face. I think it's love.

About this extra game, wouldn't Sankey have to sign off on this kind of thing? I've not looked at this development at all but surely the SEC would have to sign off on a 13th game?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm torn.

I love watching good football on TV so I'm the perfect "expand the playoffs" guy to an extent.

On the other hand, I don't want to see JMU get obliterated by Oregon for 15 minutes then watch Oregon's 2nd and 3rd string also run over them.

I just want to watch reasonable match ups. I'm not a "let's hang a 70 burger on some poor team who is collecting their entire Athletic Dept budget from this game" fan. I'd rather struggle with an SEC team than watch that.
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16 is more than enough. Do away with conference championship games.

And…given the ridiculous scheduling differences between teams in these mammoth conferences, it really makes no sense to even bother giving automatic byes.

But, my proposal would be to break the teams up into on 80-96 team league. Further break that into 8 10- to 12-team conferences based on geography (hello old SEC). Given each conference champ a bye and then have 8 at-large spots.

I’d also like to hear some proposals for promotion and relegation for last place spots from the previous year.
 
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It doesn't matter if it is a 4 game or a 100 game tournament, the ones that are left out are going to cry that they deserve to be in. Just take care of business during the season.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Ain't they cute when they're a little riled up?

The other night she saw me eyeballing some little cutie on the screen a little too much and came up behind my recliner to put a pillow over my face. I think it's love.

About this extra game, wouldn't Sankey have to sign off on this kind of thing? I've not looked at this development at all but surely the SEC would have to sign off on a 13th game?
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You'd think. And maybe the inept NCAA too. Even if it is just a exhibition challenge of sorts. Kind of wreckless to even consider to put guys out there to get hurt in a such a challenge game cause you gotta say look at me one more time.
 
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