'13 VA RB Derrick Green (Michigan commit)

soooooo what you're saying is if there are a lot of african-americans in the area they are automatically athletic and population of said AA determines whether there should be more atheltic talent in one state compared to another?

Blacks are disproportionately represented in sports that emphasize athleticism, speed, and quickness where they have "interest". Nothing is "automatic" but in any given year the football players with the best measurables either at camps for HS players or NFL combines are mostly black.

No. It is not the only factor but it is a big factor. For many years other regions compensated with the quality of play. The south by and large has caught up there too. Missouri is currently catching up pretty fast.
 
The difference between the south and midwest in respect to football talent is all about climate. I'm from the midwest, when it gets cold here, our athletes go indoors and play basketball, while the athletes in the south get to work on their football game all year around.

Not sure what you are talking about here. Illinois has very competitive HSFB with state championships determined around Thanksgiving which usually beats cold weather. Most of the population of Michigan is south and east. The weather there does not become a problem for HSFB until December.

The year round thing is somewhat legit but that is more choice than weather restriction.
 
Blacks are disproportionately represented in sports that emphasize athleticism, speed, and quickness where they have "interest". Nothing is "automatic" but in any given year the football players with the best measurables either at camps for HS players or NFL combines are mostly black.

No. It is not the only factor but it is a big factor. For many years other regions compensated with the quality of play. The south by and large has caught up there too. Missouri is currently catching up pretty fast.

Racist?
 
Not sure what you are talking about here. Illinois has very competitive HSFB with state championships determined around Thanksgiving which usually beats cold weather. Most of the population of Michigan is south and east. The weather there does not become a problem for HSFB until December.

The year round thing is somewhat legit but that is more choice than weather restriction.

Where you from dude? Championships around Thanksgiving do not beat cold weather in Illinois. As soon as playoffs are done here, the athletes start playing basketball. Yes we have very good football talent, but if we had the climate of Alabama or Georgia, we would probably produce more talent considering the population is greater.
 
Can someone please answer me this. Has he ever made a trip to UT? Official or non? And has Butch and Co been talking with him? Thanks.
 
Where you from dude? Championships around Thanksgiving do not beat cold weather in Illinois. As soon as playoffs are done here, the athletes start playing basketball. Yes we have very good football talent, but if we had the climate of Alabama or Georgia, we would probably produce more talent considering the population is greater.

So, are you contributing Ga/Fla talent to climate or population size. There are many factors that go into population size, cost of living being the most important. Climate allows players to play more and practice more, thats why Fla/Ga gace more talent.
 
So, are you contributing Ga/Fla talent to climate or population size. There are many factors that go into population size, cost of living being the most important. Climate allows players to play more and practice more, thats why Fla/Ga gace more talent.

Climate, for the exact reason you said in your last sentence. Alas, this is the D. Green thread, so I'm done contributing to the derailment of the thread.
 
To my knowledge, both Michigan and Tennessee will have assistants visit Derrick Green in-home on Wednesday. He will not have any other visits. He will announce this Saturday, January 26th @ 4pm.

GO BIG ORANGE!!!
 
To my knowledge, both Michigan and Tennessee will have assistants visit Derrick Green in-home on Wednesday. He will not have any other visits. He will announce this Saturday, January 26th @ 4pm.

GO BIG ORANGE!!!

Does this announcement date play in our favor? Or is still 50/50.
 
Margins of victory in NC games would be a good one... and especially when compared back to conference games against supposed lesser opponents. NC participants are a product of the competition they faced during the year.

It is somewhat difficult to compare bowl games since SEC teams frequently play "up". IOW's, a 5th seed SEC team plays another conference's #2 team.

A legit match up to compare by this year was UGA vs Neb. The game wasn't as competitive as the score... in spite of Richt not being a great game day coach. Those types of games where repeated often become a basis for comparing the conferences with less subjectivity involved.

The matchups of teams in comparable positions within their conferences is another. Bama hammered Michigan when you were probably the 3rd or so best team in the Big 10. UF dominated tOSU a few years ago in a NC game. When the top tier of one conference pretty consistently beats the top tier of other conferences... that's an objective measure. You can look at mid vs mid, lower vs lower, mid vs lower too.

Players going to the NFL provides a good indicator taken over time.

i understand what you're saying but i don't think it's quite that straightforward and simple. i don't think anything done in regards to a NC game relates because you're talking about one team and not the conference as a whole and in regards to participants being a product of the competition they faced, IMO that says less about them in that they didn't necessarily play the "best" teams week in and week out to lose either 0 games or 1 game, and win them that handily.

and while it's true the SEC does play up, the big gaps are against conf USA, big east, and the ACC while the others are generally playing "up" one spot. then you have to consider every SEC bowl game this past year was played in an SEC state. not saying this automatically gave them home field advantage but it's a variable and has to be considered. that being said, overall since the BCS started, the records don't show the SEC as being the toughest/strongest/best (or whatever you want to call it) conference, as i've said before, having the best team doesn't always equal being the best as a whole.

Ga/Neb i agree would be two teams that i were to sit back and look at would probably say are fairly matched so i'll give you that but again, one sample piece does not determine the whole.

you can look back at games here and there that can suggest one thing or another but wouldn't you be better suited to look at overall records as a conference rather than this big name team vs that big name team? as far as mid v mid, lower v lower, etc, there might be some clear cut cases but i think that still comes down to opinion of who you ask, and really anything can happen in any game on any day to give you an outcome you completely didn't see coming. NFL players, maybe. do you look at ones that just made it there, do they have to have a certain level of success to count, what about the ones that flame out after one year or the ones who played a season(s) in the SEC as well as season(s) in another conference, how do you count that guy?

one other thing, i'm not looking at this totally from the conf v conf view, i'm also considering toughest to play in week in and week out and the competition you face every week. would you have a more balanced overall record top to bottom or would you have a clear three tier definition with 0-2 loss teams at the top and 0-2 win teams at the bottom?
 
So, are you contributing Ga/Fla talent to climate or population size. There are many factors that go into population size, cost of living being the most important. Climate allows players to play more and practice more, thats why Fla/Ga gace more talent.

I don't think the cost of living is the most important. California and New York are 2 of the most expensive states to live in, yet have pretty large populations.
 
I was really hoping that Green would come back for an UOV because I think that would have shown his interest in UT but that failed to materialize. I think he likes Graham and his mother likes the idea of UT over UM because of distance. For whatever reason, he seems enamored with UM (slightly better seasons in recent years, Brady Hoke????). I think UT has a shot but I think UM has to be the favorite at this time. I hope I'm wrong. I think our better chances for 5* type players are with Lawson, Bell, and North (not too far outside the 5* designation).
 
I don't see why Derrick would not come to the SEC, if he's the number one back he should go SEC IMO. Michigan really? lmfao
 
I mean if you want to turn down one of the best RB coaches in the game so be it . Lets hope he calls graham at least . Graham deserves that much for recruiting him for OVER 3 years .
 
I mean if you want to turn down one of the best RB coaches in the game so be it . Lets hope he calls graham at least . Graham deserves that much for recruiting him for OVER 3 years .

It seems that alot of RBs have turned CJG down. While I would love to have Green as part of this class, a RB telling us no thanks has become very much the norm.
 
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