'13 TN ATH Jalen Ramsey (Former USCw, now FSU commit)

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

link me?

No link. Just something SC fans deduce if we're still telling our other WR commits to take visits--I also don't have premium on the other SC sites where there's lots of speculation with a few kids we supposedly passed on, who might be back in the mix.

My bad if you were looking for a article.

 

[volunteerfan94]

Could work out that way; apparently Kiffin was not pleased about him participating at any camp--UT's just made it worse. Before you say pass us a wounded WR who might never be the same, remember it'll prob come at the cost of Harris (who apparently is still talking with SC coaches).

I actually don't want any of them at USC, to be honest. Give us more OL and DL...we're gonna need 'em...

Watch this name this year. Hunter, Justin. I'm confident for a full recovery for Massington too. Again, dump him. We accept donations like that.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Watch this name this year. Hunter, Justin. I'm confident for a full recovery for Massington too. Again, dump him. We accept donations like that.

Hunter's going in the first round and is twice the player Massington will prob be. And, as I said, if I were Massington I'd really consider whether USC is the best bet. Strange things have happened at USC regarding WR recruiting. The 2010 #1 WR in the nation (Prater) and 2011 #1 WR (Farmer) couldn't/can't break the depth chart with the #1 Athlete of 2010 and the top 2-3 of 2011 (Lee).

We've also seen Ambles 5*, Ronald Johnson 5* ('07) bust out there.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

No link. Just something SC fans deduce if we're still telling our other WR commits to take visits--I also don't have premium on the other SC sites where there's lots of speculation with a few kids we supposedly passed on, who might be back in the mix.

My bad if you were looking for a article.

Harris is a better player than EM now, in your opinion?

 

[rockytoptenn24]

Would you rather have Vonn Bell or Jalen Ramsey?

 

[BIG BOI 23]

Hunter's going in the first round and is twice the player Massington will prob be. And, as I said, if I were Massington I'd really consider whether USC is the best bet. Strange things have happened at USC regarding WR recruiting. The 2010 #1 WR in the nation (Prater) and 2011 #1 WR (Farmer) couldn't/can't break the depth chart with the #1 Athlete of 2010 and the top 2-3 of 2011 (Lee).

We've also seen Ambles 5*, Ronald Johnson 5* ('07) bust out there.

robert woods and marquise lee kinda negate all that

lee just had an incredible TRUE FRESHMEN yr

 

[AbsenteeTrojan]

Well, this sort of thing happens every year at a lot of programs (we cut a RB last year because he tore his ACL only a few months before NSD..hasn't seemed to slow down SC's recruiting).

Your info is off.

Kelvin York was not 'cut' because of a knee injury. He was offered because he would be able to be an Early Enrollee. Once he couldn't EE, USC had to move on. Just because ESPN claims we 'cut' him because of his knee doesn't mean it's true. He was supposed to take care of business in the classroom - he didn't - USC moved on.

BTW, his knee injury wasn't even that bad. Heard he's doing well at Utah.

if I were Massington I'd really consider whether USC is the best bet. Strange things have happened at USC regarding WR recruiting. The 2010 #1 WR in the nation (Prater) and 2011 #1 WR (Farmer) couldn't/can't break the depth chart with the #1 Athlete of 2010 and the top 2-3 of 2011 (Lee).

We've also seen Ambles 5*, Ronald Johnson 5* ('07) bust out there.

Farmer is only going to be a true sophomore and was injured last year. Before the injury, Kiff made it clear that he was going to find a way to get him the ball. That doesn't sound like this bad situation you're portraying.

RoJo was not a bust. A multiple year starter at WR (who was drafted!) is a bust? Come on man.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Your info is off.

Kelvin York was not 'cut' because of a knee injury. He was offered because he would be able to be an Early Enrollee. Once he couldn't EE, USC had to move on. Just because ESPN claims we 'cut' him because of his knee doesn't mean it's true. He was supposed to take care of business in the classroom - he didn't - USC moved on.

BTW, his knee injury wasn't even that bad. Heard he's doing well at Utah.


Farmer is only going to be a true sophomore and was injured last year. Before the injury, Kiff made it clear that he was going to find a way to get him the ball. That doesn't sound like this bad situation you're portraying.

RoJo was not a bust. A multiple year starter at WR (who was drafted!) is a bust? Come on man.

I second the Ronald Johnson not being a bust at USC. Thought he'd pan out as a pro. Liked to watch that kid play for USC.

 

[AbsenteeTrojan]

I second the Ronald Johnson not being a bust at USC. Thought he'd pan out as a pro. Liked to watch that kid play for USC.

He dropped a game winning TD against ND his senior year, but other than that he was a good player.

He had a much higher ceiling at DB though, I will say that.

 

[005]

I like the possible optimism. But... would we even be his next closer to home choice...

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Your info is off.

Kelvin York was not 'cut' because of a knee injury. He was offered because he would be able to be an Early Enrollee. Once he couldn't EE, USC had to move on. Just because ESPN claims we 'cut' him because of his knee doesn't mean it's true. He was supposed to take care of business in the classroom - he didn't - USC moved on.

BTW, his knee injury wasn't even that bad. Heard he's doing well at Utah.


Farmer is only going to be a true sophomore and was injured last year. Before the injury, Kiff made it clear that he was going to find a way to get him the ball. That doesn't sound like this bad situation you're portraying.

RoJo was not a bust. A multiple year starter at WR (who was drafted!) is a bust? Come on man.

1. Had York not been injured he would've been apart of that class. Don't forget we had 3 leftovers from '12...not like we ran outta room. The public story is always going to be more palatable than the cruel reality that is college football.

Don't always believe what Scott, Ryan or Gerard says. Ha, come to think of it, Gerard said USC had totally moved off Khaliel Rodgers a week before he commits. Said Eddie Vanderdoes was looking like an uphill climb, lots of work needed there, etc etc...the dude commits the next day and says USC has been his leader for over a month. Just goes to show, they know next to nothing about what the staff talks about in the real war room. Don't be naive in thinking what's posted on rivals or 247 is gospel.

2. Rojo was a bust. It hurts to say because I was closer to him than any player on the team (my bestfriend roomed with him, Stafon, and Alfred Rowe in Cardinal Gardens). By his last year, even he acknowledged how disappointing his career had been. It was a far cry from the day he arrived on campus--clothes where in a black trashbag--and he said he was definitely, "gonna get that 1st round, bro."

3. Didn't imply Farmer's career is over; just said he allowed (2) other guys to pass him. I'm hoping for big things this year. However, word is Nelson is dominating and Lane always makes it a big priority to get OOS guys involved early. George is unlikely to get a lot of touches this year when you look at both Woods and Lee out in front; Flournoy and Nelson fighting George and a stable of (4) hungry TEs. I'm hoping for the best, but Lane did botch his RS last season.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Harris is a better player than EM now, in your opinion?

That's tough. It was reported Massington didn't have a strong showing in Atlanta (5* Rivals Camp) or The Opening. Paul Harris is obviously going to get the benefit of the doubt now that Mass is 2 years from getting back on a football field.

IMO, Paul Harris stays committed and works out well in Knoxville. If Massington comes in on an official, hat in hand, and apologizes for not following the staff's instruction, he may stay...that and no other higher rated player wants to commit and take his offer:devilsmoke:

It's a dirty business.

 

[AbsenteeTrojan]

1. Had York not been injured he would've been apart of that class.

2. Rojo was a bust.

3. Didn't imply Farmer's career is over; just said he allowed (2) other guys to pass him.

1. Wrong. We needed him as an EE, not as a fall enrollee that wouldn't pick up the playbook in time.

Redd is different because he actually played real CFB - not JC ball.

2. Wrong again. He got drafted and was a multi-year starter. Your definition of 'bust' is flawed.

3. How did he allow 2 players to pass him? One was a year ahead (Woods), and the other was the same year as him (Lee). Farmer was never ahead of these guys to begin with, so how did they 'pass him'?

Oh yeah, those two guys you're talking about are both potential first rounders and the best WR tandem in CFB.

Your point are all offbase, yet you tell ne not to be naive? I'm not even sure where you come up with this crap.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

1. Wrong. We needed him as an EE, not as a fall enrollee that wouldn't pick up the playbook in time.

Redd is different because he actually played real CFB - not JC ball.

2. Wrong again. He got drafted and was a multi-year starter. Your definition of 'bust' is flawed.

3. How did he allow 2 players to pass him? One was a year ahead (Woods), and the other was the same year as him (Lee). Farmer was never ahead of these guys to begin with, so how did they 'pass him'?

Oh yeah, those two guys you're talking about are both potential first rounders and the best WR tandem in CFB.

Your point are all offbase, yet you tell ne not to be naive? I'm not even sure where you come up with this crap.

1. RB is the easiest position to step into. Remember Amir Carlisle? The fact is if you want a recruit bad enough who can't meet your deadline to EE (Bowman) and can make it past the clearinghouse (York at Utah), you make room for them. USC was iffy long before the EE deadline, and his injury was the straw that broke the camel's back.

2. I'm not even going to argue since I saw him every morning, ate breakfast at parkside, lunch at the old Galen cafe, and played pick up basketball with him multiple times a week, etc. I heard him say from his own mouth he was disappointed in how his career at USC played out. Yes, he was drafted...and promptly cut and signed the Eagles practice squad. Hoping my boy makes it on the AR...but we agree he should've played CB (Gable should've too...)

3. Ok Woods didn't pass him, but Lee did who was suppose to play S until showing out at WR. George will be fighting for the #3 this year with a RSJr and a highly touted 5* (who'll likely play both slot and RB..could change depending on Redd's decision). Couple that with how awesome Telfer and Grimble have been--Pomee ready to get some carries as well--you start to see George ain't gonna be a featured player on O this season. If RW comes back--unlikely, but he said he admired MB7 and TJM's decision and might still be injured--George is screwed for another whole year. I love George and think he's an amazing talent, but so was Prater...injuriess, not picking up the playbook, whatever..what matters is you have to produce like #2 & #9. They've been dominating since they put on a helmet in year 1; George will hopefully make that step this year (knock on wood).eace2:

 

[jp1]

How about you two debate it out on your board. I come here for info on Ramsey and have to sift through rubbish from you posers.

 

[vol2013]

1. RB is the easiest position to step into. Remember Amir Carlisle? The fact is if you want a recruit bad enough who can't meet your deadline to EE (Bowman) and can make it past the clearinghouse (York at Utah), you make room for them. USC was iffy long before the EE deadline, and his injury was the straw that broke the camel's back.

2. I'm not even going to argue since I saw him every morning, ate breakfast at parkside, lunch at the old Galen cafe, and played pick up basketball with him multiple times a week, etc. I heard him say from his own mouth he was disappointed in how his career at USC played out. Yes, he was drafted...and promptly cut and signed the Eagles practice squad. Hoping my boy makes it on the AR...but we agree he should've played CB (Gable should've too...)

3. Ok Woods didn't pass him, but Lee did who was suppose to play S until showing out at WR. George will be fighting for the #3 this year with a RSJr and a highly touted 5* (who'll likely play both slot and RB..could change depending on Redd's decision). Couple that with how awesome Telfer and Grimble have been--Pomee ready to get some carries as well--you start to see George ain't gonna be a featured player on O this season. If RW comes back--unlikely, but he said he admired MB7 and TJM's decision and might still be injured--George is screwed for another whole year. I love George and think he's an amazing talent, but so was Prater...injuriess, not picking up the playbook, whatever..what matters is you have to produce like #2 & #9. They've been dominating since they put on a helmet in year 1; George will hopefully make that step this year (knock on wood).eace2:

#2 makes no sense. So because someone claims they had a dissapointing career they are a bust? So if some highly touted recruit came in and never ended up playing a down, but later said he had a great career that person would not be a bust in your eyes?
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[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

#2 makes no sense. So because someone claims they had a dissapointing career they are a bust? So if some highly touted recruit came in and never ended up playing a down, but later said he had a great career that person would not be a bust in your eyes?
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Good gawd...

Fine, he wasn't a "bust." However, he, by his own remarks as well as those of others, consider his career disappointing, given the fact he was the No 1. Athlete in America on Rivals for 2007.

 

[kwhite40]

are we getting an OV from Ramsey? I know people say even if we win we can't flip him but absolutely noone knows what could change in his mind between now and signing day. He could walk into Neyland during a big win and decide right then and there he wants to be a Vol. I don't count any recruit out if they OV us.

gbo

 

[FirstAndGoal]

USC??? Should have been a VOL

 

[Vol2424]

If Massington comes in on an official, hat in hand, and apologizes for not following the staff's instruction, he may stay...that and no other higher rated player wants to commit and take his offer:devilsmoke:

It's a dirty business.

Well at least you are being logical about that being a possibility with Massington and SC. I brought it up a few days ago and AT acted like there was no way it would happen and don't believe it. Not a shot at you AT. I think you are looking at recruiting the right way. What you said about him still having his offer is the way it should be. I just thought the story about the staff being upset days later about his trip to Tennessee was sort of a red flag. Looks and sounds like an excuse to be honest. With your numbers , I wouldn't put it past that staff.

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

Well at least you are being logical about that being a possibility with Massington and SC. I brought it up a few days ago and AT acted like there was no way it would happen and don't believe it. Not a shot at you AT. I think you are looking at recruiting the right way. What you said about him still having his offer is the way it should be. I just thought the story about the staff being upset days later about his trip to Tennessee was sort of a red flag. Looks and sounds like an excuse to be honest. With your numbers , I wouldn't put it past that staff.

Absentee's not a bad guy; I just think he takes every "official" version as the truth. Does anyone truly know what's going on inside Lane's head in regard to Eldridge? Nope. IMHO, he'll monitor EM's rehab, and decide after the season where we all stand. EM may say the right things (like a 3* named Charles Burks who pretty much offered to wash the floors for a schollie) and impress the staff with his drive.

Or, Lane and Ed may hook a big fish on a late January OV and tell EM it might be best for both parties to move on. We just have no way of knowing for certain.

 

[AbsenteeTrojan]

Absentee's not a bad guy; I just think he takes every "official" version as the truth. .

You've been off with your comments in this thread and yet claim that I'm the one who is naive or buying into some official version. I'm just using simple logic.

I honestly don't know where you came up with a lot of this... Are you just making this stuff up? That's the only thing that makes sense.

 

[Vol2424]

Absentee's not a bad guy; I just think he takes every "official" version as the truth.

He's been one of the few I have talked to and agree. He's a homer , but we are all guilty of that most of the time. Even though we don't give a damn about what you guys think of Tennessee , I'm going to ask what you think about our season this year. In other words , I'm forcing you to talk about Tennessee on a Tennessee board. If only for one post. Plus Kobe has a Vol logo under his name. Go...

 

[kw3953]

Who cares?! Tenn recruits nationally. We can't get them all in home state. Patrick Turner, enjoy... Marlon Brown... who? :crap2:

 

[HOLLYWOOD KOBE]

You've been off with your comments in this thread and yet claim that I'm the one who is naive or buying into some official version. I'm just using simple logic.

I honestly don't know where you came up with a lot of this... Are you just making this stuff up? That's the only thing that makes sense.

LOL..enough's enough. This is a thread based on info regarding Ramsey. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me and I'll respond.