'13 PA WR Tyler Boyd

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#328
LebanonVolunteer said:
And if the parent was pushing for the recruit to stay at Tennessee, you and everyone else would be all for it. I have seen it on here 100 times. "Listen to your mom/dad, they know best". When it works in our favor, it's great. When it works against us, "Let the kid decide".
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I agree with both.
 
#329
#329
GBO128 said:
I understand where you are coming from. On the flip side of that though, too often kids will flip after these coaches and teams push then so hard. Additionally, a bunch of guys over the years have chased girls places. While they need to make their own decisions, they need some guidance in that decision. Look at Cyrus kouandjio (maybe misspelled) and the auburn commitment/ bama flip later. I am not saying all coaches are liars but some will tell these kids whatever they want to hear, not necessarily what they need to hear.
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I agree guidance is an issue that needs to be given by the parent. I think Carl Lawson's father is doing a great job (whether he lands at Tennessee or not). He is trying to help his son make the best decision. There is a difference between guiding your child and limiting their decisions. It sounds like Boyd's mom is stacking the deck in favor of Pitt. This is not letting him hear all the options and then her sitting down with him to work out the facts...

And if the parent was pushing for the recruit to stay at Tennessee, you and everyone else would be all for it. I have seen it on here 100 times. "Listen to your mom/dad, they know best". When it works in our favor, it's great. When it works against us, "Let the kid decide".
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And Lebanon, I disagree with what you said here (from my perspective, not all vol fans). As a parent, I could never see me forcing my child to go where I want over his desires. I am a huge Vol fan but if my son chose to go to Bama, I would support him 100%. I would offer guidance but never would I try to force my will on him. I think the process is already difficult enough even without a parent trying to add pressure.
 
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Scotty's Flat Top said:
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But what mama don't know, won't hurt her
 
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gardners_51609 said:
I agree guidance is an issue that needs to be given by the parent. I think Carl Lawson's father is doing a great job (whether he lands at Tennessee or not). He is trying to help his son make the best decision. There is a difference between guiding your child and limiting their decisions. It sounds like Boyd's mom is stacking the deck in favor of Pitt. This is not letting him hear all the options and then her sitting down with him to work out the facts...




And Lebanon, I disagree with what you said here (from my perspective, not all vol fans). As a parent, I could never see me forcing my child to go where I want over his desires. I am a huge Vol fan but if my son chose to go to Bama, I would support him 100%. I would offer guidance but never would I try to force my will on him. I think the process is already difficult enough even without a parent trying to add pressure.
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A parent should have the right to watch their child play while in college. Noone here knows the life situation in the Boyd household. The way it sounds to me is the mother is not interested in traveling far to see her son play football. I have no issue with that and see nothing wrong with it. If I were a parent and could not afford to travel around the country to see my child play, I would push for them to stay closer to home. It would not in any way make me a bad parent. JMO
 
#332
#332
Clairton and much of the surrounding area isn't very affluent. It wouldn't surprise me at all if she wants her son closer to home so she can afford to go see him play.

Can't fault anyone for wanting that.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
A parent should have the right to watch their child play while in college. Noone here knows the life situation in the Boyd household. The way it sounds to me is the mother is not interested in traveling far to see her son play football. I have no issue with that and see nothing wrong with it. If I were a parent and could not afford to travel around the country to see my child play, I would push for them to stay closer to home. It would not in any way make me a bad parent. JMO
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I am not saying she is being a bad parent, and you are right there may be more to the situation. If I could not afford to see my child play and I would express that to my child, but if he still chose to go far away I would let that be his choice. Just different ways to go about it I guess.
 
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#334
If this kid does indeed visit & decides he wants to be a Vol on nsd does he for sure need his mother's signature on nli to make it official or is there anyway around that if she doesn't want him at UT?
 
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#338
Clairton is very poor area. Extremely run down. His Mom wants him close. Tyler is very respectful to his Mom. That said when I saw Tyler over the summer he told me the SEC is where he wanted to be. His Mom's problem with WVU had to do with some things coach Dunlap said to her. That said if he follows thru with the visit to TN he will want to come to UT. After that Butch will have the sale of his life to get her to buy in. Boyd is friendly with Robert Foster and he thinks as well as me that he is better. He told me he wants to play the best and he loves to compete. Sell the Mom.
 
#339
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Prior to CBJ TN had never contacted Boyd. That is why they are such an underdog here. Boyd has a great relationship with the WR coach at Pitt. Maybe the SEC lure will help TN here. When I spoke to Boyd back in the summer I had TN gear on and i told him he should go to TN and he said he was never contacted.
 
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#341
LebanonVolunteer said:
And if the parent was pushing for the recruit to stay at Tennessee, you and everyone else would be all for it. I have seen it on here 100 times. "Listen to your mom/dad, they know best". When it works in our favor, it's great. When it works against us, "Let the kid decide".
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I think I know what's wrong with you.

You think you know what the flaws are in other people's thinking and enjoy pointing that out.

...Am I close?
 
#343
#343
BlueHalo said:
WVU vs. Pitt : Pitt leads series 61-40

Pitt Bowl Record: 12-17
WVU Bowl Record: 14-18

Post 1950's National titles:
Pitt:1
WVU: 0

Total Wins:
WVU - 708







Pitt - 691

Leaps and bounds?




People usually don't become bitter rivals because one is "leaps and bounds" better than the other. It's usually because they're very similar in many aspects.
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all time they are about even but wvu has done a lot more lately. they are on an upswing and Pitt a downswings.
 
#344
#344
Sounds like mama wants her son at home.seems like she has a problem with every school that is not down the street from her house.
 
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NEOCON said:
all time they are about even but wvu has done a lot more lately. they are on an upswing and Pitt a downswings.
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Didn't WVU go like 6-6 this year with a very mediocre bowl loss? With perhaps the most NFL talent they've ever had?

Pretty sure Pitt at least won their mediocre bowl.

I guess we just have different definitions for "upswing" and "leaps and bounds"
 
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#346
I think the argument is West Virginia is a backwater crap hole. Boyd's mom basically said she didn't like the fact Holgerson was just focusing on football and getting to the NFL---no academic stuff. The coach is a trusted person that is accompanying Tyler---hopefully the visit goes well!
 
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#350
BlueHalo said:
Didn't WVU go like 6-6 this year with a very mediocre bowl loss? With perhaps the most NFL talent they've ever had?

Pretty sure Pitt at least won their mediocre bowl.

I guess we just have different definitions for "upswing" and "leaps and bounds"
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Pitt lost to Ole Miss
 
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