'13 GA DE Carl Lawson (Auburn commit)

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I think Auburn solidifying a solid staff and getting the last visit makes it hard for us to overcome his commitment. Hope CBJ, pulls a rabbit out of his hat, but I'm just not seeing any momentum here.
 
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Definitely to me seems like an Auburn/UT battle. Clemson is too much smoke and mirrors for him in my opinion.
 
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ericberry4heisman said:
Don't make me hate you, Jmoore.
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Haha, I don't hate him. I was going to respond to the picture, but it didn't post in the quote, and I was too lazy to go back and fix it.

All in all, Brady has had an incredible career, and he's got rings to prove it. He's also played big in several clutch games...the last two SB's excluded.

That being said, IF Peyton wins one more ring, and at the moment that is a big "if" considering his age and the competitiveness of the NFL in general, I think he cements his legacy.

I do know, however, in my years on this earth, it's a worthless endeavor to argue QB's with a Pat's fan. Haha.
 
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RhodesVol said:
Haha, I don't hate him. I was going to respond to the picture, but it didn't post in the quote, and I was too lazy to go back and fix it.

All in all, Brady has had an incredible career, and he's got rings to prove it. He's also played big in several clutch games...the last two SB's excluded.

That being said, IF Peyton wins one more ring, and at the moment that is a big "if" considering his age and the competitiveness of the NFL in general, I think he cements his legacy.

I do know, however, in my years on this earth, it's a worthless endeavor to argue QB's with a Pat's fan. Haha.
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How many rings does Brady have without Bruschi, Seau, Seymore, and Rodney Harrison on defense? How many more would he have of he still had guys playing at that level?

Not trying to be a Manning homer, but everybody acknowledges that defense wins championships and then uses super bowls to compare guys who don't even play that side of the ball.

Super bowl rings are a completely worthless measurement of any individual player, IMO. It's a team sport now more than ever.

Sorry for the rant.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
How many rings does Brady have without Bruschi, Seau, Seymore, and Rodney Harrison on defense?

Not trying to be a Manning homer, but everybody knows defense wins championships. Ask Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.

Super bowl rings are a completely worthless measurement of any individual player, IMO.
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What do you mean, Trent Dilfer>Dan Marino, everyone knows that. :crazy:
 
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RockyTop85 said:
How many rings does Brady have without Bruschi, Seau, Seymore, and Rodney Harrison on defense?

Not trying to be a Manning homer, but everybody knows defense wins championships. Ask Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson.

Super bowl rings are a completely worthless measurement of any individual player, IMO.
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I don't see how anyone could argue that Brady has always had better talent around him than has had Peyton.
 
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Brady has played his entire career for a Hall of Fame coach? Anyone willing to cast a Hall of Fame vote for Dungy, Caldwell, or Fox?
 
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butchna said:
So if you're blind whatever we see that you can't doesn't exist?
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I refuse to respond to idiocy. Peyton at Indy had one TE one RB one WR. Brady has had multiple elite level talents at each position plus a superior defense. Thats my opinion though as I am certain yours will carry more weight than mine.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I refuse to respond to idiocy. Peyton at Indy had one TE one RB one WR. Brady has had multiple elite level talents at each position plus a superior defense. Thats my opinion though as I am certain yours will carry more weight than mine.
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Alright!...Capitulation yes my opinion does count more...NOW GO GET YOUR SHINE BOX!
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butchna said:
Alright!...Capitulation yes my opinion does count more...NOW GO GET YOUR SHINE BOX!
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Just to be clear...Are you on the zManning or Brady side of the discussion?...if Manning then we're on the same side
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RockyTop85 said:
How many rings does Brady have without Bruschi, Seau, Seymore, and Rodney Harrison on defense? How many more would he have of he still had guys playing at that level?

Not trying to be a Manning homer, but everybody acknowledges that defense wins championships and then uses super bowls to compare guys who don't even play that side of the ball.

Super bowl rings are a completely worthless measurement of any individual player, IMO. It's a team sport now more than ever.

Sorry for the rant.
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We're definitely on the same side of the fence on this discussion, and that's why I said that one more ring for Peyton cements him as the greatest. He's already got the statistical achievements, and another championship would quiet the critics who balk about his lack of rings.

Believe me...jmoore's response was to me saying Peyton was the greatest already (which I still believe), and I know how Patriot fans are about their boy Tom.

Brady had an incredible defense backing him up when he won his titles, and that can't be denied. I'm not one to discount how well he played in those years though. I just choose to side with one of Knoxville's favorite sons because he's been spectacular.

Also...no news on Lawson. Sorry for the thread derailment.
 
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Smokey 77 said:
Any news on Carl Lawson?
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guess not smokey. i just scrolled thru 2 useless pages of a debate over whose the better qb, peyton or brady. that has a simple answer to the argument, peyton's a good guy and brady's a prick who works for dick, but, who cares though. maybe we can find information about lawson somewhere
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dovervolz said:
guess not smokey. i just scrolled thru 2 useless pages of a debate over whose the better qb, peyton or brady. that has a simple answer to the argument, peyton's a good guy and brady's a prick who works for dick, but, who cares though. maybe we can find information about lawson somewhere
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Who?
 
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