'13 GA DE Carl Lawson (Auburn commit)

#876
#876
Tha Don said:
You're reaching with this. All of the coaches in the conference, except maybe St. Richt, throw stuff or visibly display their frustration. Hell, Saban walks around holding himself like he's in a straight jacket after throwing one of his tantrums and Muschamp was figuratively having seizures on the sideline.

We are lost frustrated and hurt by the loss but it appears that you too must learn to be more even keel and temper your frustration. The team competed brilliantly and except for a few mental lapses and some game mismanagement we essentially went toe to toe with one of the better teams in the conference.

Now, the challenge is to learn how to not only counter punch but to knock them out once we get them on the ropes.

Relax young man.
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Very underrated post. Well said The Don:good!:
 
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Tha Don said:
You're reaching with this. All of the coaches in the conference, except maybe St. Richt, throw stuff or visibly display their frustration. Hell, Saban walks around holding himself like he's in a straight jacket after throwing one of his tantrums and Muschamp was figuratively having seizures on the sideline.

We are lost frustrated and hurt by the loss but it appears that you too must learn to be more even keel and temper your frustration. The team competed brilliantly and except for a few mental lapses and some game mismanagement we essentially went toe to toe with one of the better teams in the conference.

Now, the challenge is to learn how to not only counter punch but to knock them out once we get them on the ropes.

Relax young man.
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I see you've mentored a young guy or two. :)
 
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#880
The Breakerboy said:
You can't say that after Muschamp and crew brought a beautiful gameplan into this game. The way they brought the blitzes late was a beautiful site to see for a defensive guy(hate it was against my team).
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as soon as you see that our only gameplan is downfield, you should do nothing but blitz us. Living by the deep route and failure to train Bray in checking down has doomed us to the blitz. If we don't find a way to address the problem, we'll get housed. Offensive coaching, especially to our QB, clearly sucks.
 
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#885
VolunteerVandiver said:
Muschamp> Dooley at this point in time.

Anyone that says otherwise didn't watch Saturday night's game.
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UF talent(CWM inherited)> UT Talent(CDD inherited)

UT has the talent for the most part to match any team in SEC in the starting line-up, give or take a few positions like better WRs, but not RBs, but still overall the 1's are there. The problem is depth. That is where UF won the game in the 2nd half.

The game showed the most important element in recruiting and that is you have to recruit alot of big uglies on both side of the ball. In the SEC you have to win the line of scrimmage for 4 qtrs. The 2nd half that battle went to UF big time. Saw it with the amount of pressure put on Bray(which is his only knock is when pressured seems to make the most mistakes) and on D UF's run game opened up.

I will say this I was really impressed with McCullers. Kid can play every down and move for his size. I saw one play I think in the 2nd Qtr where he was being blocked on the line the UF player ran outside and McCullers chased him down from behind about 15yds+.

Again just my opinion.:hi:
 
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TideWarrior said:
UF talent(CWM inherited)> UT Talent(CDD inherited)

UT has the talent for the most part to match any team in SEC in the starting line-up, give or take a few positions like better WRs, but not RBs, but still overall the 1's are there. The problem is depth. That is where UF won the game in the 2nd half.

The game showed the most important element in recruiting and that is you have to recruit alot of big uglies on both side of the ball. In the SEC you have to win the line of scrimmage for 4 qtrs. The 2nd half that battle went to UF big time. Saw it with the amount of pressure put on Bray(which is his only knock is when pressured seems to make the most mistakes) and on D UF's run game opened up.

I will say this I was really impressed with McCullers. Kid can play every down and move for his size. I saw one play I think in the 2nd Qtr where he was being blocked on the line the UF player ran outside and McCullers chased him down from behind about 15yds+.

Again just my opinion.:hi:
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+1 Good post
 
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#887
OCIVol said:
I disagree, but I do think that Pease > Chaney
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This is definitely true. However, head coaches are responsible for their Coordinators.

Muschamp seems to be the better recruiter and has put together a comparable, if not better, staff.

Advantage goes to Muschamp until CDD wins a game of consequence.
 
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TideWarrior said:
UF talent(CWM inherited)> UT Talent(CDD inherited)

UT has the talent for the most part to match any team in SEC in the starting line-up, give or take a few positions like better WRs, but not RBs, but still overall the 1's are there. The problem is depth. That is where UF won the game in the 2nd half.

The game showed the most important element in recruiting and that is you have to recruit alot of big uglies on both side of the ball. In the SEC you have to win the line of scrimmage for 4 qtrs. The 2nd half that battle went to UF big time. Saw it with the amount of pressure put on Bray(which is his only knock is when pressured seems to make the most mistakes) and on D UF's run game opened up.

I will say this I was really impressed with McCullers. Kid can play every down and move for his size. I saw one play I think in the 2nd Qtr where he was being blocked on the line the UF player ran outside and McCullers chased him down from behind about 15yds+.

Again just my opinion.:hi:
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UT didn't lose the game because of depth. UT has more scholarship players than UF does and he has had 3 years to build SEC depth. UT had control over the game for almost full 3 quarters and folded when one thing went sour. The first 2 years, I can deal with, but it has been the same old story every week. UT easily had enough talent to win that game, they actually should have won. UF had a very young, inexperienced offense that picked up 500 total yards. UF was missing two starters, including their best defensive player on defense, and still won. There is no excuse for this loss. This was the first game to judge Dooley and he failed. It seems to me Dooley can only win against teams he can out talent, unfortunately, he can't out talent most teams in the SEC.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
UT didn't lose the game because of depth. UT has more scholarship players than UF does and he has had 3 years to build SEC depth. UT had control over the game for almost full 3 quarters and folded when one thing went sour. The first 2 years, I can deal with, but it has been the same old story every week. UT easily had enough talent to win that game, they actually should have won. UF had a very young, inexperienced offense that picked up 500 total yards. UF was missing two starters, including their best defensive player on defense, and still won. There is no excuse for this loss. This was the first game to judge Dooley and he failed. It seems to me Dooley can only win against teams he can out talent, unfortunately, he can't out talent most teams in the SEC.
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I agree. Talent was not the issue this year. Coaching adjustments and poor attitudes when the going got rough accounted for this loss. I think we may have taken Florida too lightly as a fanbase, team, and staff.
 
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VolunteerVandiver said:
This is definitely true. However, head coaches are responsible for their Coordinators.

Muschamp seems to be the better recruiter and has put together a comparable, if not better, staff.

Advantage goes to Muschamp until CDD wins a game of consequence.
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How is CWM a better recruiter? You do realize that Florida high school talent is 100x greater than Tennessee high school talent.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I agree. Talent was not the issue this year. Coaching adjustments and poor attitudes when the going got rough accounted for this loss. I think we may have taken Florida too lightly as a fanbase, team, and staff.
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I'm not sold it's 50/50 coaching and mental toughness. I think it's 25/75 coaching to mental toughness. I think if our leaders and followers had more mental toughness, we win that game regardless of the coaching mistakes.
 
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utvols88 said:
I'm not sold it's 50/50 coaching and mental toughness. I think it's 25/75 coaching to mental toughness. I think if our leaders and followers had more mental toughness, we win that game regardless of the coaching mistakes.
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Perhaps. Both were contributors to losing moreso than talent.
 
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#894
bigl3327 said:
How is CWM a better recruiter? You do realize that Florida high school talent is 100x greater than Tennessee high school talent.
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CWM has brought in higher rated classes so far. So it isn't set in stone, but he seems to be bring in more talented players so far.
 
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#895
cncchris33 said:
I agree. Talent was not the issue this year. Coaching adjustments and poor attitudes when the going got rough accounted for this loss. I think we may have taken Florida too lightly as a fanbase, team, and staff.
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all that and speed, our secondary looked slow as crap against the florida guys. maybe its bad position and bad pursuit and crappy angles but the secondary looked extremely outgunned. weve got some big hitters out there no doubt but they dont have the wheels that the florida O had.
 
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#896
VolunteerVandiver said:
CWM has brought in higher rated classes so far. So it isn't set in stone, but he seems to be bring in more talented players so far.
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CWM also inherited a nationally relevant team with recent heisman trophy winners and a couple crystal balls in the last 8 years or so. a guy like tebow does wonders for future recruiting too. ala peyton. im not saying muschamp isnt better than dooley but hes had a lot more help and thats not even mentioning his home state advantage.
 
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Ertel said:
CWM also inherited a nationally relevant team with recent heisman trophy winners and a couple crystal balls in the last 8 years or so. a guy like tebow does wonders for future recruiting too. ala peyton. im not saying muschamp isnt better than dooley but hes had a lot more help and thats not even mentioning his home state advantage.
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This. CWM inherited a program that was not in shambles. And not concerned about how many are on scholarship if they are players that are not producing. The fact is and I will use rivals here.

2008 class #2 5th year seniors
2009 class #11 Seniors
2010 class #2 Juniors
2011 class #12 Sophmores
2012 class #3 Freshman

That not only provides good ones but also provides alot of talent in the 2s and 3s. Depth is huge and if you can not go 4 qtrs in the SEC you can not win.:hi:
 
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TideWarrior said:
This. CWM inherited a program that was not in shambles. And not concerned about how many are on scholarship if they are players that are not producing. The fact is and I will use rivals here.

2008 class #2 5th year seniors
2009 class #11 Seniors
2010 class #2 Juniors
2011 class #12 Sophmores
2012 class #3 Freshman

That not only provides good ones but also provides alot of talent in the 2s and 3s. Depth is huge and if you can not go 4 qtrs in the SEC you can not win.:hi:
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I agree but UF has lost more players since Muschamp took over than any other program SEC program. UF went into last years game with 68 scholarship players and 73 this year...if anything it's more about quality depth. Also, people forget UF staff has been in place for 2 full years.
 
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#899
HialeahGator said:
I agree but UF has lost more players since Muschamp took over than any other program SEC program. UF went into last years game with 68 scholarship players and 73 this year...if anything it's more about quality depth. Also, people forget UF staff has been in place for 2 full years.
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People are just wanting to find excuses for the loss, but the cold hard facts is that Driskell out played Bray, Muschamp outcoached Dooley, and UF simply outplayed UT when it mattered. UF didn't lose composure when things weren't going there way like UT did either.
 
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#900
Whatever happened to that report that was supposed to come out about Auburn recruiting? The same thing that has happened to the other reports concerning Auburn recruiting?
 
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