'12 TX LB Dalton Santos (Texas Commit)

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sjt18 said:
I am one of the fans here who has no problem with DS's decision.

That said, I doubt he plays significant minutes for you unless your situation is very desperate. All Fr LB's struggle with pass defense. UT had two of the more SEC ready Fr I have ever seen at LB this year and they struggled alot.

Santos doesn't have that level of athleticism. He will hurt you in the often pass happy Big 12 unless he somehow gets alot faster.
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Quality post. Very true, Santos is gonna have to drop some weight before he sees the field in that league
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Not sure what "mo" means. Way of namecalling with out breaking the rules?

At the risk of a dozen VN posters asking for me to be banned:

The team was poorly coached. They couldn't tackle. They couldn't block. They only played hard for a half. They looked ill-prepared for high level competition. They looked worse than 2010 in almost every aspect of the game. They got worse as the season went on.

Record is one thing. Not sure how much that could have been helped. The inability to compete is another. No way Saban's teams LOOK like that. You have to believe your eyes at some point. It's not an exercise in freakin data analysis.
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Could be why we revamped our coaching staff. Maybe he knew after evaluating the former staff, they could not get it done. It is only assumption that they jumped off a sinking ship.
 
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RoSmitty12 said:
I agree. I can't blame him at all for what he did. Many of us would have done the same. It's sad when grown men are acting like teenage girls.
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I was up in you neck of the wood last week. I was in Stow,OH training some customers. That was one long drive.
 
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ArrogantTexasFan said:
I didn't want to come back by until this was over. It had the result I thought it would. Not because Texas is superior to Tennessee, not because DS's parents forced him into anything and not because Mack paid him off.....we all have a dream scenario in our minds about how our life will work out. It doesn't mean it is right, hell, maybe he would have had a better career at Tennessee. Maybe he'll win a national title at Texas - who knows. This isn't about our opinions, it is about the dreams an 18 y.o. had during his formative years.

Texas has been on the losing end of plenty of these when the Horns recruit out of state. It isn't fun. I'm not going to come on this board and be an ***hole. I'm going to go to the aggie board and be an ***hole because they were convinced that Santos would switch to A&M because they allowed him to be in the SEC AND to play in Texas. But, despite what he said in his press conference before, Dalton never gave a damn about just playing for the SEC. He cared a lot more about the individual school and the viability of their football program. He wanted to fulfill his dreams, play where he was content and play where he had a shot at a title. That is why it came down to a razor thin margin between 2 schools he loved......and that is why A&M was never in the picture.

I don't normally give 2 farts about any SEC team but I'll be rooting passionately for the Vols every time you kick A&M's ****ing teeth in.....
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LOL. A shot at what title? The most underachieving program in CFB? And I love the backhanded comment how Texas is superior to Tennessee. You act as if Tennessee is not 9 th all time in wins and has 6 NC. Texas may have a slightly better history, but it's not by the wide margin you 10 gallon hat yahoo's make it out to be. Do they allow research outside of the state of Texas? Maybe you should do some, and save the gloating for another time.

As for Santos, if he grew up a fan of Texas, I wish him luck, and would say he will have as much of a chance winning a National Title in Texas as he would in Knoxville. (Meaning that more than likely he won't win one in either place.)
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Not sure what "mo" means. Way of namecalling with out breaking the rules?

At the risk of a dozen VN posters asking for me to be banned:

The team was poorly coached. They couldn't tackle. They couldn't block. They only played hard for a half. They looked ill-prepared for high level competition. They looked worse than 2010 in almost every aspect of the game. They got worse as the season went on.

Record is one thing. Not sure how much that could have been helped. The inability to compete is another. No way Saban's teams LOOK like that. You have to believe your eyes at some point. It's not an exercise in freakin data analysis.
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Players learn as much or more from the junior and senior players as they do coaches

When you have a team full of young talent, it his hard for a coach to concentrate solely on the player that needs it.

When you have solid junior and seniors, they can help the young ones along, learn the ropes, etc

The CEO of the company doesnt train someone in the mail room

Until you build that senior leadership and depth, you will see this

How would a team full of NFL rookies fair against the Patriots?

You just cant recruit kids and expect them to be world beaters the first or second year they are here. It doesnt work that way
 
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MrBamSeydu said:
1) Change your avatar. ASAP. From what I am hearing I may need to change mine also. Otha should stick with us but he's shaky right now.

2) Anyone that doesn't have him on their ignore list is just as big of an idiot. You need to fix that Lynx.
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Did you read my post? That was the first time I've ever quoted him. I never even paid attention to him beforehand.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Players learn as much or more from the juniorvand senior players as they do coaches

When you have a team full of young talent, it his hard for a coach to concentrate solely on the player that needs it.

When you have solid junior and seniors, they can help the young ones along, learn the ropes, etc

The CEO of the company doesnt train someone in the mail room

Until you build that senior leadershipvand depth, you will see this

How would a team full of NFL rookies fair against the Patriots?

You just cant recruit kids and expect to be world beaters the first or second year they are here. It doesnt work that way
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I hope to eat some serious crow this year. Nothing would please me more than to know I will be writing a mea culpa after we are undefeated through the Fla game.
 
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O Peters just reaffirmed he is coming...lets kill this thread on the slow and overweight and begin talking about the ripped and fast vfl's...:rock:
 
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WesternKyVol said:
Not sure what "mo" means. Way of namecalling with out breaking the rules?

At the risk of a dozen VN posters asking for me to be banned:

The team was poorly coached. They couldn't tackle. They couldn't block. They only played hard for a half. They looked ill-prepared for high level competition. They looked worse than 2010 in almost every aspect of the game. They got worse as the season went on.
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Pass pro was MUCH better. Passing game before Hunter went down was pretty much unstoppable. The D did NOT get worse as the season went along but injuries on a very young and thin team DID accumulate.

And, if you would open your eyes, you would see that there was every reason to expect the team to have a rougher season than '10. They lost better upperclassmen than those who rose up to replace them. They became more, not less, dependent on underclassmen and guys with limited or no experience.

They took chances on schemes trying to maximize the strengths they had. Namely Hunter, Rogers, and Bray. When Hunter went down then Bray, it blew up in their faces. You choose the run scheme they worked on all off season because you want your pass game to set up the run. It didn't work great with Hunter in... and not at all once he was gone.

Tell you what, take the best HSFB team you are exposed to wherever you are. Do a lottery and eliminate 2/3's of the Jrs and Srs then go out and play with Fr and Sophs... and you won't even BEGIN to touch the difficulty of the task and schedule UT's coaches faced last August.

Record is one thing. Not sure how much that could have been helped. The inability to compete is another. No way Saban's teams LOOK like that. You have to believe your eyes at some point. It's not an exercise in freakin data analysis.
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What do you do for a living? I manage people and develop teams to get complex things done. It is EXACTLY an exercise in analysis. Not just data but process, methods, standards.... a whole scope of how you move something from failure to success.

You NEVER compromise a standard for ultimate performance. You develop or accept a plan offered by a subordinate. You set a reasonable timeline. You watch the execution of the plan MORE than the results at any particular point in time. The execution of my most recent improvement plan resulted in turning over nine out 10 employees in one of my departments. I am probably one of the few people here with a demonstrated stomach for firing good people who can't satisfy a standard.

That is precisely why you can't judge Dooley without acknowledging what he started with, the plan he developed, acceptance that setbacks and adjustments would be necessary along the way, and the quality of the execution of the plan on a daily and even hourly basis. Unless you ARE Hart... you have absolutely no way of evaluating that. You watch games... mostly on tv, right? And you really think you have the information and perspective to make the conclusions you are making? Get over yourself.
 
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I hate that Tennessee has has wasted all this time and effort to show a kid that he's really valued only to have him snaked out from under us by a school who was clearly to blind or "arrogant" to take his talent seriously to begin with. I'm sure we've done the same thing to other schools. This recruiting thing is a dark and dirty business.
 
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I doubt we hear this kids name again. He isn't playing in the right league for his skill set. Hope his dad gets a deep fried wiener with his sons commitment.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Players learn as much or more from the junior and senior players as they do coaches

When you have a team full of young talent, it his hard for a coach to concentrate solely on the player that needs it.
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Absolutely true. This is much more relevant considering the limitations on practice time and coach contact for much of the year.

The CEO of the company doesnt train someone in the mail room
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Outstanding analogy. But in UT's case, that has been necessary. The coaches have had to teach the players even how to practice.

You just cant recruit kids and expect them to be world beaters the first or second year they are here. It doesnt work that way
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You actually can. It isn't reasonable. But we see proof positive here all the time with posts like WKV made earlier that you "can".
 
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WesternKyVol said:
I hope to eat some serious crow this year. Nothing would please me more than to know I will be writing a mea culpa after we are undefeated through the Fla game.
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Sorry for busting your chops a little. I know you aren't a bad guy or particularly negative poster.

I am just very sensitive to rash judgments about performance. Much of it is because of what I do and how I have seen improvement efforts succeed and fail over the years.
 
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1985Vols said:
Would rather have Otho Peters than Santos if we had to choose between the two of them. Good luck to Santos, I guess....
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:eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:

I have no idea why:unsure:, but when I read this, I was laughing so hard that I was crying..Hardest that I have laughed all day..Thanks!!:thumbsup:
 
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Already over the Santos mess. Hate to see it but so be it. I really think it was not a good choice and he will be forgotten in Texas roster. Hope he does well except if UT plays Texas in a bowl game!
 
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sjt18 said:
Sorry for busting your chops a little. I know you aren't a bad guy or particularly negative poster.

I am just very sensitive to rash judgments about performance. Much of it is because of what I do and how I have seen improvement efforts succeed and fail over the years.
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It's cool. And I CAN be negative. I'm not Drunk Johnny or Fade Route but definitely more in their camp than yours.

Your perspective is well-reasoned. I see the validity and hold out some hope that it's right. I personally think the month of November said a whole lot about the direction of the program because in my experience teams that are about to make a quantum leap show signs of that late the season before. We'll see. I like Dooley and seriously hope that he finds a way to get over the hump.
 
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good luck santos. but I cannot name a team that has performed worse than than texas university recently in relation to recruiting as it relates to "on field performance". just saying ............
 
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