12 kyron samuels C alabama

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#51
d3ft punk said:
Tennessee has Mack Crowder. He'll be a good one. Redshirted last year AS GOD INTENDED FOR TENNESSEE LINEMEN!

It's just that Dooley never wants to get in the same position Kiffin was in when he first got here. When Dooley was starting three Freshmen it wasn't like he was doing a fancy jig of joy. That needs to never happen ever.

So taking 2-4 OL a year should be what happens. Because we got a full set of linemen last year PLUS Bullard and OL wasn't a huge priority from a numbers standpoint this year. Next year it will be (as it should be) and will continue (as it should be).
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Good post. I really think Crowder could surprise some people in spring practice this year.
 
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#52
#52
It really comes down to just how good do you think he can be after redshirting. The height is nothing. Scott Wells is barely 6' and he is All Pro. If you think he can be a really good SEC center by the time he is a RS Junior you take him unless you have a much better one on the hook for the next class.
 
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Vols4us said:
It really comes down to just how good do you think he can be after redshirting. The height is nothing. Scott Wells is barely 6' and he is All Pro. If you think he can be a really good SEC center by the time he is a RS Junior you take him unless you have a much better one on the hook for the next class.
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Ya gotta think that after recruiting Cochran for as long as they did they are looking to add a center this year. Samuels is pretty much a pure center, and he would double the number of real-life centers on the Tennessee depth chart.
 
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I think is probably the concern with UA in regards to centers. We have recruited 3 guys in the past 2 years that can play center.
 
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phowell23 said:
Funny if we sign him and he hits a growth spurt and jumps to 6'4".

That being said, Rivals has him listed at 6'2". How tall do you need to be to play center??? Definitely not tall enough to play center in basketball.
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Everything I have read has stated he is barely 6'0 but I have never seen him in person.
 
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jave36 said:
Tide, as a bama fan, if AU and UT offered, assuming he takes one of them, which would he take? Would a Bama fan really go to the barn, especially with all the OL they took?
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My guess if they both offered he would pick UT over AU.
 
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#60
Cool! Thank goodness we are in for another average player after NSD to appease the fan base. Meanwhile, another 2013 slot gets eaten up. Oh, and before the bashers, the number "20" commit that we could attain next year is 2x better than this individual.

With that being said, if we offer and he accepts, I hope he dominates.
 
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kw3953 said:
Cool! Thank goodness we are in for another average player after NSD to appease the fan base. Meanwhile, another 2013 slot gets eaten up. Oh, and before the bashers, the number "20" commit that we could attain next year is 2x better than this individual.

With that being said, if we offer and he accepts, I hope he dominates.
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Im glad you think highly of Dooley's recruiting ability. Honestly think he would waste a scholly to "appease" the fans? If we offer the kid you better believe we thought he could play.
 
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#66
He's got good size for a center we need to get him he seems like an under the radar type of player he could be a good one for us go get him Dooley
 
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FreshmanVFL said:
not really. We have 13 I believe Dooley said.
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We have 14 including Schofield, but when you break down the numbers we absolutely do need to sign an offensive lineman, IMO:

Seniors: Thomas, Gooch, Anderson
Juniors: Stone, Bullard, Fulton, Schofield, James
Sophomores: Richardson, Jackson, Pair
Redshirt freshmen: Kerbyson, Crowder, Posey
True freshman: --

Eight of our 14 offensive linemen are upperclassmen. Ideally, you want to sign freshman to replace rising juniors since it almost always takes at least a full year, and usually two, for linemen to develop the size and strength needed to compete in the SEC.

In 2013 we project to have five seniors and probably three of those will be starters. I'm comfortable with Richardson and Jackson's potential, but Pair has shown nothing so far and it's unknown how the redshirt frosh will fare. And if you factor in an average attrition rate, we'll likely lose one or two players along the way.

So we'll start 2014 with five or six guys plus whoever we sign next year, most of whom will be redshirt freshmen in '14. Add a few true frosh (who almost certainly won't be ready to play) and you could find yourself precariously thin if a rash of injuries strikes.

In Fulmer's last few years, our OL depth was insufficient -- and sometimes dire -- due to a combination of low signing numbers, poor talent evaluation, injuries, and attrition. I'm more confident in Dooley's ability to evaluate talent, but we cannot allow ourselves to fall into the same depth predicament we were in not so long ago.
 
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Reports indicate that Samuels could develop into a very good center. After what Tennessee went through at the position during the past few years, I'd think the staff would aggressively pursue him.
 
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kamoshika said:
We have 14 including Schofield, but when you break down the numbers we absolutely do need to sign an offensive lineman, IMO:

Seniors: Thomas, Gooch, Anderson
Juniors: Stone, Bullard, Fulton, Schofield, James
Sophomores: Richardson, Jackson, Pair
Redshirt freshmen: Kerbyson, Crowder, Posey
True freshman: --

Eight of our 14 offensive linemen are upperclassmen. Ideally, you want to sign freshman to replace rising juniors since it almost always takes at least a full year, and usually two, for linemen to develop the size and strength needed to compete in the SEC.



In 2013 we project to have five seniors and probably three of those will be starters. I'm comfortable with Richardson and Jackson's potential, but Pair has shown nothing so far and it's unknown how the redshirt frosh will fare. And if you factor in an average attrition rate, we'll likely lose one or two players along the way.

So we'll start 2014 with five or six guys plus whoever we sign next year, most of whom will be redshirt freshmen in '14. Add a few true frosh (who almost certainly won't be ready to play) and you could find yourself precariously thin if a rash of injuries strikes.

In Fulmer's last few years, our OL depth was insufficient -- and sometimes dire -- due to a combination of low signing numbers, poor talent evaluation, and attrition. I'm more confident in Dooley's ability to evaluate talent, but we cannot allow ourselves to fall into the same depth predicament we were in not so long ago.
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I believe your analysis shows we should sign him if we can or be put in a position to have to sign a JUCO in the coming years. However, I would only sign him if the staff believes he can play and just not to fill a slot.
 
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Vol Main said:
Reports indicate that Samuels could develop into a very good center. After what Tennessee went through at the position during the past few years, I'd think the staff would aggressively pursue him.
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That's why we got Crowder. We pondered Matt Cochran, so if we pull any OL, this may be it.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Wish we could of got Cochran. He would have beefed up our line coming in at over 340lbs.
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Except with Coach Pit they will be going to a straight zone blocking scheme with counters and traps that require more mobility than having a beefy plodder at center. The old blocking scheme is dead by all reports and his hiring.
 
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