'12 JUCO WR Cordarrelle Patterson (UT signee)

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StoVol said:
He's offered a lot more evidence rather than insults... Unlike you... It is possible to disagree civilly without getting butthurt
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Uptempo offenses are only good for pass based offenses? Incorrect.

What Malzahn did last season at Auburn had absolutely nothing to do with the style of uptempo, run heavy offense he had with Cam.

So, he's wrong.
 
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I can only imagine the level of dominance we would have achieved with Spurrier as our head coach with Manning and Clausen.

I think we would have won 3 championships and the lost to LSU in the SEC chamno game would have been a thumping of LSU instead.
 
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justingroves said:
Disagree.

Spurrier dared Tennessee to beat him in a shootout. Cutcliffe couldn't outsmart Pruett or Stoops and Chavis can't hold Spurrier's visor.
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Sorry, I don't consider Option read spread offenses as pro-style. UT will always run a version of a Pro-style offense i suspect.

Vince Young failed, Michael Vick became a pocket passer, Cam is becoming a pocket passer, and Tim Tebow is trying to become a pocket passer. Junk, gimmick offenses don't work in the NFL and they don't work in the SEC unless you have a generational talent that comes around every 5-10 years. Auburn sucked offensively pre-Cam Newton, and post Cam Newton, he only played 1 year btw. The gators had a powerful offense for 2 out of 4 years with Tebow. The first year with Chris Leak the offense was terrible. UF should have lost to us in fact had Harrell been healthy and we didn't get called for a bogus call against Mapu for a late roughing the passer where he was pushed into leak about a good second after he threw the ball that erased Morely's pick 6. Secondly, that gators defense thanks to Zook's recruiting was loaded, they had 6 guys go in the first 3 rounds that year......

The year Tebow hurt his shoulder and the defense wasn't stacked UF went 9-4 and lost some pretty bad games. In the 2008 UF NC season, Tebow had 4 NFL WR's, 2 NFL TE's and again a nasty defense, one of the best secondaries and LB cores i can remember. Why do you think Meyer quit the SEC and ran away to the big 10 once tebow left? Those offenses are crap in the SEC and in the NFL and only work if you have a special type of QB that doesn't come around very often.

Running QB's and option read\spread type offenses work occasionally when playing a weak schedule. If you try to run that offense week in and week out in the SEC with your tiny WR's and RB's, your running QB, and your OL that hasn't even learned how to put their hands on the ground and block, and TE's that get free releases and never actually stay and block, well you haven't been watching very much college football i'm afraid.
 
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chandlerbing said:
Sorry, I don't consider Option read spread offenses as pro-style. UT will always run a version of a Pro-style offense i suspect.

Vince Young failed, Michael Vick became a pocket passer, Cam is becoming a pocket passer, and Tim Tebow is trying to become a pocket passer. Junk, gimmick offenses don't work in the NFL and they don't work in the SEC unless you have a generational talent that comes around every 5-10 years. Auburn sucked offensively pre-Cam Newton, and post Cam Newton, he only played 1 year btw. The gators had a powerful offense for 2 out of 4 years with Tebow. The first year with Chris Leak the offense was terrible. UF should have lost to us in fact had Harrell been healthy and we didn't get called for a bogus call against Mapu for a late roughing the passer where he was pushed into leak about a good second after he threw the ball that erased Morely's pick 6. Secondly, that gators defense thanks to Zook's recruiting was loaded, they had 6 guys go in the first 3 rounds that year......

The year Tebow hurt his shoulder and the defense wasn't stacked UF went 9-4 and lost some pretty bad games. In the 2008 UF NC season, Tebow had 4 NFL WR's, 2 NFL TE's and again a nasty defense, one of the best secondaries and LB cores i can remember. Why do you think Meyer quit the SEC and ran away to the big 10 once tebow left? Those offenses are crap in the SEC and in the NFL and only work if you have a special type of QB that doesn't come around very often.

Running QB's and option read\spread type offenses work occasionally when playing a weak schedule. If you try to run that offense week in and week out in the SEC with your tiny WR's and RB's, your running QB, and your OL that hasn't even learned how to put their hands on the ground and block, and TE's that get free releases and never actually stay and block, well you haven't been watching very much college football i'm afraid.
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And what does that have to do with Spurrier vs Tennessee?
 
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justingroves said:
Uptempo offenses are only good for pass based offenses? Incorrect.

What Malzahn did last season at Auburn had absolutely nothing to do with the style of uptempo, run heavy offense he had with Cam.

So, he's wrong.
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I see you're part of that crowd that likes to attribute comments to people that they didn't say when losing an argument.. Carry on
 
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StoVol said:
I see you're part of that crowd that likes to attribute comments to people that they didn't say when losing an argument.. Carry on
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Oh really?

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I hope you realize that speeding up the offense and increasing the number of plays your offense intends to run goes hand in hand with a passing offense, not a running team that wants to eat up clock and play conservative but great defense.
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I agree with many points of Chandlerbing. I will add that the running game will be improved due to scheme changes based on spring practice. They moved the RBs up 2 yards from 9 to 7 yards from the ball. The O-line and FB were using regular zone blocking schemes in spring as compared to the delayed, sprint draw line and FB scheme of last year. Most RBs are trained to hit the gap quickly and find the crease. By the time they got to the line of scrimmage last season there was no gap to hit, much less a crease. This improved ground threat will keep the D's more honest. If it is to be a NE Patriots style you only need the running game to get an average of 3.5-4 yards a pop to make it work. I agree that the D's are going to have a nightmare on their hands trying to figure out how to cover Hunter, Rogers and Patterson at the same time. If they focus on them, that leaves Neal, Young, Riviera, etc. to have fun underneath or on swings.

Gonna be interesting in a positive way for a change.
 
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If your not balanced in the SEC, or more run oriented, then your not going to do well traditionally in this league. If we throw it over 30 times a game, I don't think that we will be doing too well in the W/L column. Teams who have QB's throwing it about 25 times a game, are the teams that typically have the better winning percentage in the SEC.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
If your not balanced in the SEC, or more run oriented, then your not going to do well traditionally in this league. If we throw it over 30 times a game, I don't think that we will be doing too well in the W/L column. Teams who have QB's throwing it about 25 times a game, are the teams that typically have the better winning percentage in the SEC.
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Historically speaking you sir are correct. But I think it just comes down to taking advantage of the skill players you have. If you only pass the ball 25-30 times a game with our WR and QB you don't deserve to be a coach at UT. Now if Neal/Lane are averaging 7 yards a pop I am all for that. But I don't see that happening. Our offense should make Mike Leach look conservative.
 
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namasteVOLfans said:
Historically speaking you sir are correct. But I think it just comes down to taking advantage of the skill players you have. If you only pass the ball 25-30 times a game with our WR and QB you don't deserve to be a coach at UT. Now if Neal/Lane are averaging 7 yards a pop I am all for that. But I don't see that happening. Our offense should make Mike Leach look conservative.
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:blink: *Joker voice* Not sure if serious.
 
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ACvol3 said:
Will CP be in this years NCAA game?
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Good question.

Have you seen the info on the game they released last week? I'm pumped.

The recruiting part of it should be a lot better. You get to scout this yr. And the players ratings can change throughout the season etc. so makes it more true to life. And your schools'/coaches' ratings on the pitches can change on a week-to-week basis.
 
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volssam said:
Good question.

Have you seen the info on the game they released last week? I'm pumped.

The recruiting part of it should be a lot better. You get to scout this yr. And the players ratings can change throughout the season etc. so makes it more true to life. And your schools'/coaches' ratings on the pitches can change on a week-to-week basis.
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No, didn't know anything was out.. I'll see if it's on YouTube.
 
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