'12 GA WR Jason Croom (UT SIGNEE)

[nicksjuzunk]

Kimbrow

Yep

 

[RTGA]

That is life though, I know that is all it takes but you are going to have people who have it out for you all your life.. If you let some redneck from Bucksnort say "you suck" at being a moderator on Volnation.. are you going to move on to moding at tiger droppings?

I am totally against bashing or saying negative things about high school kids.. you won't find me saying anything negative about a recruit as far as talent goes.. or anything for that matter, it is wrong to put down kids.. those that do it on here should re-evaluate their life.

I would just hope that kids would not let public opinion keep them from going to place where they are happy.

I think it's been proven many times over the years that these comments DO in fact impact the kids. I don't think we're going to have any success changing the way kids react to these things. The best way to fix the problem is to eliminate/ban the morons who come on the boards and post trash.

The worst part is the only reason I could see for this moronic behavior is if you're a fan of another school trolling our boards. It wouldn't surprise me if half of the fools who engage in that activity here are in fact trolls, and the other ones who are "fans" are just too feeble minded to understand that it really does hurt the program to be on here badmouthing current players, prospective players, and the current coaching staff.

 

[the_great_pumpkin]

Kimbrow

i thought kimbrow was the one to start it all rollin' with his "ut makes me sick" comment.

 

[Titan50]

MZTERRY, thanks for all your insights and for confirming what most of us suspected. It saddens me to know that we lost even one young man because of the venomous comments of a few. The vast majority of VN are people I'd like to have over to the house for dinner, or a beer, or both! It's just so easy to be hateful behind a keyboard and the cloak of anonymity. If we could disagree without making it so personal, but what the hell, I imagine the rules of "cyber engagement" aren't going to change and there will continue to be a few whose posts make most of us cringe when we read them.

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

MZTERRY, thanks for all your insights and for confirming what most of us suspected. It saddens me to know that we lost even one young man because of the venomous comments of a few. The vast majority of VN are people I'd like to have over to the house for dinner, or a beer, or both! It's just so easy to be hateful behind a keyboard and the cloak of anonymity. If we could disagree without making it so personal, but what the hell, I imagine the rules of "cyber engagement" aren't going to change and there will continue to be a few whose posts make most of us cringe when we read them.

Solid post chief.. Only takes two or three idiots/haters/jellies/trolls to sabotage an entire thread and make the entire fan base look bad.. All the more reasons I wish recruits wouldn't let it play into their decision but I don't blame them if they do... Even though at the end of the day no ones opinion matters on here

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

I know I may be in the minority here, but any kid who lets what is said on a message board effect the biggest decision in their early adult life, is either WAY too picky or is not being advised very well.

This is an anonymous fan driven message board, and is also very opinionated. If anyone lets anything said on here, or other message boards for that matter, effect their lives in any way, shape, or form, then you should probably step back and take a look at what is important in your life. If it's what's said on a message board, you should probably focus on something different.

It's pretty obvious that Jason was advised very well (thank you Mama Croom), and got the info he needed from the school, coaches, and family, which is how it should be.

 

[UTFanForLife]

I know I may be in the minority here, but any kid who lets what is said on a message board effect the biggest decision in their early adult life, is either WAY too picky or is not being advised very well.

This is an anonymous fan driven message board, and is also very opinionated. If anyone lets anything said on here, or other message boards for that matter, effect their lives in any way, shape, or form, then you should probably step back and take a look at what is important in your life. If it's what's said on a message board, you should probably focus on something different.

It's pretty obvious that Jason was advised very well (thank you Mama Croom), and got the info he needed from the school, coaches, and family, which is how it should be.

Here is the way I look at it. If a recruit is down to 2 schools. Why would you want to say something stupid in a public forum, where said person can see, that could potentially cause that person not to come to the school you cheer for?

If you were choosing between 2 restaurants, one got great reviews and the other had 20 piss poor reviews, which would you choose? By the logic of some, they gonna get food poisoning and drinks spilled on them that night.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

Here is the way I look at it. If a recruit is down to 2 schools. Why would you want to say something stupid in a public forum, where said person can see, that could potentially cause that person not to come to the school you cheer for?

If you were choosing between 2 restaurants, one got great reviews and the other had 20 piss poor reviews, which would you choose? By the logic of some, they gonna get food poisoning and drinks spilled on them that night.

This is an anonymous message board... how do you even know they are UT fans?

I could simply go onto another fan's message board and bash kids they are recruiting... who would know the difference.

Maybe this is something mods should crack down on... no sense in bashing an 18 year old kid anyways.

 

[Thump]

Here is the way I look at it. If a recruit is down to 2 schools. Why would you want to say something stupid in a public forum, where said person can see, that could potentially cause that person not to come to the school you cheer for?

If you were choosing between 2 restaurants, one got great reviews and the other had 20 piss poor reviews, which would you choose? By the logic of some, they gonna get food poisoning and drinks spilled on them that night.

Part of what he is saying is that any fan (Gator, Bama, Georgia, Etc.) can get on our message board and post negative BS and have a UT avatar and screenname. When you log in you don't have to get a blood test to see if you bleed orange or not...

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

I know I may be in the minority here, but any kid who lets what is said on a message board effect the biggest decision in their early adult life, is either WAY too picky or is not being advised very well.

This is an anonymous fan driven message board, and is also very opinionated. If anyone lets anything said on here, or other message boards for that matter, effect their lives in any way, shape, or form, then you should probably step back and take a look at what is important in your life. If it's what's said on a message board, you should probably focus on something different.

It's pretty obvious that Jason was advised very well (thank you Mama Croom), and got the info he needed from the school, coaches, and family, which is how it should be.

exactly

 

[UTFanForLife]

This is an anonymous message board... how do you even know they are UT fans?

I could simply go onto another fan's message board and bash kids they are recruiting... who would know the difference.

Maybe this is something mods should crack down on... no sense in bashing an 18 year old kid anyways.

I agree with that. But there are plenty of dumb UT fans on here too. They think what they say doesn't affect things.

Sometimes you have to see things from a parents point of view. Doesn't matter who is saying it, the point is its being said about their son.

 

[UTFanForLife]

Part of what he is saying is that any fan (Gator, Bama, Georgia, Etc.) can get on our message board and post negative BS and have a UT avatar and screenname. When you log in you don't have to get a blood test to see if you bleed orange or not...

There should be a test.

Which radio personality do you listen to?

A. Clay Travis
B. Jimmy Hyams
C. Tony Basillyho
D. None of the above

If someone picks A, then their computer is shut down with a virus and they should just give up hope for sanity. If they pick B, they get slapped with a 30 day ban and lifetime therapy is recommended. If they pick C, refer to A. If they pick D, they can post.

This test should weed out your idiots.

 

[Scotty's Flat Top]

I agree with that. But there are plenty of dumb UT fans on here too. They think what they say doesn't affect things.

Sometimes you have to see things from a parents point of view. Doesn't matter who is saying it, the point is its being said about their son.

Thing is it is not uncommon nor is it a problem just reserved for UT fans.. I know we have some dumb fans.. but c'mon we can't be any worse than Bama or Gator fans. These kids are going to be scrutinized their entire careers, need to have a little thicker skin JMO

 

[MZTERRY]

I know I may be in the minority here, but any kid who lets what is said on a message board effect the biggest decision in their early adult life, is either WAY too picky or is not being advised very well.

This is an anonymous fan driven message board, and is also very opinionated. If anyone lets anything said on here, or other message boards for that matter, effect their lives in any way, shape, or form, then you should probably step back and take a look at what is important in your life. If it's what's said on a message board, you should probably focus on something different.

It's pretty obvious that Jason was advised very well (thank you Mama Croom), and got the info he needed from the school, coaches, and family, which is how it should be.

Now you said something in this one!!

We don't let Croomster read the boards. I never wanted his decision based on anything said in cyberspace. The only thing that he reads are the articles I print out or order fromt he newspapers and tv stations. The decisions we made on UT was EASY..... I promise y'all it was like no other school we visited. I can't stress that enough. They leave the recruitment up to you. They didn't make a whole lot of promises and smoozing and mess. They understood me the minute the conversations began. I told them what I wanted and they told me what they needed and expected. They haven't shown me anything different yet, and I respect and appreciate that.

 

[MZTERRY]

There should be a test.

Which radio personality do you listen to?

A. Clay Travis
B. Jimmy Hyams
C. Tony Basillyho
D. None of the above

If someone picks A, then their computer is shut down with a virus and they should just give up hope for sanity. If they pick B, they get slapped with a 30 day ban and lifetime therapy is recommended. If they pick C, refer to A. If they pick D, they can post.

This test should weed out your idiots.

"D" none of the above

I would be like Barb Dooley. Don't mess with my baby.. I don't give rats butt who you are. lol:loco:

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Now you said something in this one!!

We don't let Croomster read the boards. I never wanted his decision based on anything said in cyberspace. The only thing that he reads are the articles I print out or order fromt he newspapers and tv stations. The decisions we made on UT was EASY..... I promise y'all it was like no other school we visited. I can't stress that enough. They leave the recruitment up to you. They didn't make a whole lot of promises and smoozing and mess. They understood me the minute the conversations began. I told them what I wanted and they told me what they needed and expected. They haven't shown me anything different yet, and I respect and appreciate that.

I'm very glad that you guided him the way you did, but you know as well as I do, that kids aren't guided as well as your son is, and that's something that I wish could change in this recruiting process. With that being said, there are recruits that all they want is the attention, and some will say and do anything to get that attention. I'm just glad that Jason made his decision without a lot of tribulation from this process, because this process can over stress even the most laid back person.

 

[g8terh8ter_eric]

Here is the way I look at it. If a recruit is down to 2 schools. Why would you want to say something stupid in a public forum, where said person can see, that could potentially cause that person not to come to the school you cheer for?

If you were choosing between 2 restaurants, one got great reviews and the other had 20 piss poor reviews, which would you choose? By the logic of some, they gonna get food poisoning and drinks spilled on them that night.

Difference is, with restaurants, they sell a service that anyone can try. Not everyone is going to be recruited to play D-1 SEC level football, therefore you have to be careful how and where you get your info from. I use Urbanspoon.com all the time to look up restaurants, and their rating system is pretty well setup. Went to Nick and J's Cafe in Farragut this past Saturday, and it was top notch.

 

[schwompal]

Mzterry:

I don't know if anyone has started a thread like this before, but I think it would be interesting to read a thread that discussed what exactly happens during an unofficial visit at UT, during an official visit at UT, etc. I think most of us on here would be interested to read about the details of those experiences. If that's something you could do to satisfy our curiousity, we would all be appreciative.

 

[jack090]

Mzterry:

I don't know if anyone has started a thread like this before, but I think it would be interesting to read a thread that discussed what exactly happens during an unofficial visit at UT, during an official visit at UT, etc. I think most of us on here would be interested to read about the details of those experiences. If that's something you could do to satisfy our curiousity, we would all be appreciative.

That seems like we might hear trade secrets that might not want to be disclosed.

 

[schwompal]

That seems like we might hear trade secrets that might not want to be disclosed.

Not necessarily secrets, but things like what's the schedule like for an official visit? What are the tours like? What are the meetings with the coaches like? Don't necessarily disclose anything that is confidential. I mean, kids who don't end up going to UT have this experience as well as those who do sign here.

 

[UTFanForLife]

Difference is, with restaurants, they sell a service that anyone can try. Not everyone is going to be recruited to play D-1 SEC level football, therefore you have to be careful how and where you get your info from. I use Urbanspoon.com all the time to look up restaurants, and their rating system is pretty well setup. Went to Nick and J's Cafe in Farragut this past Saturday, and it was top notch.

I pass Nick and J's all the time, the windows look weird so I have never been there :crazy:

 

[Escape Goat]

If you let the opinons of random strangers, who in some case are trolling, influence whether or not you come to certain university.. you are going about it the wrong way.

Agreed

 

[MZTERRY]

Mzterry:

I don't know if anyone has started a thread like this before, but I think it would be interesting to read a thread that discussed what exactly happens during an unofficial visit at UT, during an official visit at UT, etc. I think most of us on here would be interested to read about the details of those experiences. If that's something you could do to satisfy our curiousity, we would all be appreciative.

The recruit and parents have 90% control of how they want any visit to go whether it official or unofficial.

Using us as the example, Jason and i got what we needed in the very first visit to UT. i made a spreadsheet of pros and cons of everyschool, and i had a list of questions that had to be met, UT answered everyone day one. From there on every visit just built our relationship. The only difference for us from the official is I didnt have to pay for it for the first time.

Recruiting is in the recruits hands. Its not about fun and games all the time, they need to know what they want from the school they'll choose.

Where do i fit in?
How do i fit in?
Do they have my curriculm?
What's their academic plan for my graduation?
How are tutors and note-takers chosen?
What are the meal plans?
Just a few questions on our lists
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[BoseefusTheVol]

The recruit and parents have 90% control of how they want any visit to go whether it official or unofficial.

Using us as the example, Jason and i got what we needed in the very first visit to UT. i made a spreadsheet of pros and cons of everyschool, and i had a list of questions that had to br met, UT answered everyone day one. From there on every visit just built our relationship. The only difference for us from the official is I didnt have to pay for it for the first time.

Recruiting is in the recruits hands. Its not about fun and games all the time, they need to know what they want from the school they'll choose.

Where do i fit in?
How do i fit in?
Do they have my curriculm?
What's their academic plan for my graduation?
How are tutors and note-takers chosen?
What arr the meal plans?
Just a few questions on our lists
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MZTERRY, I commend you on how you and Jason handled all aspects of his recruitment. He seems like a special kid, along with the other '12 recruits. I can't wait till he catches his first TD as a Vol.

 

[Vol Main]

Huh? Really? Then that leaves Santos, unless I am forgetting someone.
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My impression was that the fans stayed far more respectful to Santos than he had any right to expect. He dumped us in the final days for a school that hadn't even offered him until then. Most folks said they understood that because it was his dream state school, wished it hadn't happened, and said good luck to the kid. Except for the doubts about his place in the Longhorn defensive scheme, the criticism was very mild. There were remarks about his Dad's influence, but even those were mild, considering they were true. And that's not a knock on his Dad. Everybody knows that Longhorn players wear big britches in the State of Texas.