'11 TN Ath/DB Tino Thomas (UT Signee)

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respect to everyone, but seriously, what is the deal with some of you guys? why in the world would you come on here and pick on a recruit?

if tino has an offer, that means the coaches saw him in person, liked his game, and asked him to be a vol. it doesn't get any better than that from an evaluation standpoint.

some of you may want other recruits more, and if so, cool, but don't blame tino for that or run tino down for that. the coaches like him, he's a talented kid, and i hope he chooses ut.
 
#77
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because they have no clue.

You nailed it tho,

the guy had an outstanding camp in front of the coaching staff.

top it off, he has played well at every other camp he has attended and has showed Legit speed.

I've resigned myself to the fact that If a kid isnt being mentioned on Mike farrell's weekly whispers, then they arent good enough for Volnation

*Insert Jerry Seinfeld Gif from Curb your Enthusiasm*
 
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lilesrt said:
Exactly! What is even more depressing about the issue is the fact that even he is holding out on committing! I am hoping that once the season starts, we can start getting this whole commitment process rolling. I do understand that there is a long way until NSD, but guys we have got to sign better players than this. Accepting a commitment from a player that is not SEC caliber just for the sake of getting "another commitment" does us very little good. Remember, we want to "compete" and "win" in this league. I am utterly confused with this offer and I surely hope that it is NOT a commitable offer bc that would be pretty bad. We are not Boise State and we DO NOT play in the WAC.
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Well, thank you coach lilesrt. Why are you here on this board. A man with your expertise should be out there evaluating all our possible recruits. That way you can tell them to their face that they suck and aren't sec ready. I am sure you will make us a national contender by next year. :blink:
 
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i just dont think he is a take at this point. we are in on a lot of DBs it seems like. maybe closer to NSD, but not right now.
 
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Orange Studs said:
Well, thank you coach lilesrt. Why are you here on this board. A man with your expertise should be out there evaluating all our possible recruits. That way you can tell them to their face that they suck and aren't sec ready. I am sure you will make us a national contender by next year. :blink:
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I never claimed to be a coach sir. I am merely stating my opinion. This is a recruiting forum if I am not mistaking. Am I correct? I do believe I am entitled to my opinion even if it disagrees with yours. One thing I can say is that Tennessee lacks talent. That is a known fact and it has been made evident on the field. We have not beaten a descent SEC team, aside from UGA, in quite some time. But hey, I guess since this guy wants to be a Vol he deserves an offer. Correct?
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Indianavol4eva said:
i just dont think he is a take at this point. we are in on a lot of DBs it seems like. maybe closer to NSD, but not right now.
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And I repect that, but I just get p.o. at people who bash players when they have never seen him play, or how good they did at a camp. He could have, just like a lot of young players, didn't get noticed until they start going to these camps and with all players that were there, this guy did something to catch the coaches eye.
 
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lilesrt said:
I never claimed to be a coach sir. I am merely stating my opinion. This is a recruiting forum if I am not mistaking. Am I correct? I do believe I am entitled to my opinion even if it disagrees with yours. One thing I can say is that Tennessee lacks talent. That is a known fact and it has been made evident on the field. We have not beaten a descent SEC team, aside from UGA, in quite some time. But hey, I guess since this guy wants to be a Vol he deserves an offer. Correct?
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Wow. Just wow.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to have that opinion accepted. Posters challenge each other's opinions -- that's how it works.

1. The coaches have offered kids from across the country, and 10 or fewer Tennessee kids have offers right now. Do you not believe 10 kids in Tennessee merit offers?

2. Which SEC teams do you believe to be "descent"? Let's start with your list and then work backwards.

3. Do you really believe that a kid receives an offer simply for wanting one and not based on performance at camp?
 
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lilesrt said:
One thing I can say is that Tennessee lacks talent. That is a known fact and it has been made evident on the field.
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TN has 6 guys on the preseason All-SEC 1st or 2nd teams.

For reference, AL has 7, SC has 3, MS has 3, and AR has 3.
 
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lilesrt said:
I never claimed to be a coach sir. I am merely stating my opinion. This is a recruiting forum if I am not mistaking. Am I correct? I do believe I am entitled to my opinion even if it disagrees with yours. One thing I can say is that Tennessee lacks talent. That is a known fact and it has been made evident on the field. We have not beaten a descent SEC team, aside from UGA, in quite some time. But hey, I guess since this guy wants to be a Vol he deserves an offer. Correct?
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My point sir, is were you there when he camped here? Do you not believe that this coaching staff can see talent? How do you know he isn't sec material? With all the kids that were at this camp, this young man did something to impress our coaching staff. One last thing, an opinion is not an excuse to bash someone you don't even know.
 
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head1 said:
You should be used to this by now. :p

Tennessee is a melting pot state and really the only places that bleed Orange are when you cross over into EST or the rural areas of the state.

And tbh, we havent exactly put an exciting product on the field the last 5-6 years which is what these kids remember. :no:
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Yea, I guess that's why I-40 is called "orange highway" on Saturday mornings. But I will say there are fans in the state that will put their orange garb in the back of the closet and pull out some blue or crimson when the Vols aren't on their A game.
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Lord Vader said:
TN has 6 guys on the preseason All-SEC 1st or 2nd teams.

For reference, AL has 7, SC has 3, MS has 3, and AR has 3.
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Not doubting you, but according to whom? Only listings that I've seen only have 2 and both are on the second team. Luke Sticker and Jansen Jackson.
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Lord Vader said:
TN has 6 guys on the preseason All-SEC 1st or 2nd teams.

For reference, AL has 7, SC has 3, MS has 3, and AR has 3.
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"Lord Vader" let me clarify myself. The University of Tennessee's Football Team lacks talent. Any posters on here disagree with this?
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Orange Studs said:
My point sir, is were you there when he camped here? Do you not believe that this coaching staff can see talent? How do you know he isn't sec material? With all the kids that were at this camp, this young man did something to impress our coaching staff. One last thing, an opinion is not an excuse to bash someone you don't even know.
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Just because I do not think a player is worthy of a scholarship does not mean I am bashing him. Get over it bra! I am not the only person on this site who thinks that offering Tino Thomas a scholarship this early in the recruiting season is a little premature.
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Indianavol4eva said:
interesting stat... what about GA FL and LA?
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12 from FL, 10 from GA, and 0 from LA.

The 6 from TN are OL Barrett Jones (Bama), LB Donta Hightower (Bama), WR Randall Cobb (UK), LB Chris Marve (Vandy), and LB Nick Reveiz (UT).

I guess the TN stat is a little flawed since Cobb is on the 1st and 2nd team but still, TN has more guys on it than the states of AL, LA, SC, and MS which are supposed to be recruiting hotbeds. I was very surprised not to see a single player on it from LA.

FL and GA are the only states who have more guys on it than TN. That is impressive and sorta stunning.
 
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lilesrt said:
"Lord Vader" let me clarify myself. The University of Tennessee's Football Team lacks talent. Any posters on here disagree with this?
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Yes.

I would agree that we lack depth.
 
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knoxsingle said:
Wow. Just wow.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to have that opinion accepted. Posters challenge each other's opinions -- that's how it works.

1. The coaches have offered kids from across the country, and 10 or fewer Tennessee kids have offers right now. Do you not believe 10 kids in Tennessee merit offers?

2. Which SEC teams do you believe to be "descent"? Let's start with your list and then work backwards.

3. Do you really believe that a kid receives an offer simply for wanting one and not based on performance at camp?
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lilesrt said:
Just because I do not think a player is worthy of a scholarship does not mean I am bashing him. Get over it bra! I am not the only person on this site who thinks that offering Tino Thomas a scholarship this early in the recruiting season is a little premature.
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I never got on it Bra! (why are we talking about women's wear), but any way, There are those on this board who felt the same as me. Go back and read your first quote. You were trashing him pretty good. Here is thing, I do not disagree with the fact that there are others that I would rather have before tino, but our coaches saw somethng in him to offer if in fact he did get an offer. I was not only one who said something about your post.

I do not agree with you about the talent. We got talented young men, but we don't have enough of them. Got a heck of a class coming this year.

Let there be peace! :peace2:
 
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Lord Vader said:
12 from FL, 10 from GA, and 0 from LA.

The 6 from TN are OL Barrett Jones (Bama), LB Donta Hightower (Bama), WR Randall Cobb (UK), LB Chris Marve (Vandy), and LB Nick Reveiz (UT).

I guess the TN stat is a little flawed since Cobb is on the 1st and 2nd team but still, TN has more guys on it than the states of AL, LA, SC, and MS which are supposed to be recruiting hotbeds. I was very surprised not to see a single player on it from LA.

FL and GA are the only states who have more guys on it than TN. That is impressive and sorta stunning.
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and AL. still very impressive. you think this guy is a take at this time LV?
 
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LynxVol said:
Yes.

I would agree that we lack depth.
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We lack talent and depth. Reality hurts sometimes, I realize that, but to say that this team does not lack talent is ridiculous. Delusional fans crack me up. Look at the shear size and speed of Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and LSU compared to our players. It is quite obvious comparatively speaking, that we lack both.
 
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lilesrt said:
We lack talent and depth. Reality hurts sometimes, I realize that, but to say that this team does not lack talent is ridiculous. Delusional fans crack me up. Look at the shear size and speed of Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and LSU compared to our players. It is quite obvious comparatively speaking, that we lack both.
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we lack depth at every position. we have talent at a lot of positions. some of its young and inexperienced, but just give it time. the depth issue will take some time to fix, but we do have some talent.
 
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Our starting line-up last season was able to take Bama to the wire. If you consider the class we just pulled in, I'd say that it is close to par talent-wise. The team that we will actually field this upcoming season will lack talent from a starting line-up standpoint and depth, but not from an ability in the team standpoint.

Negative fans crack me up. I've never seen someone who claims to be a such a devoted fan discredit his team so much. I'll try to give you the benefit of the doubt and claim that you just want UT to succeed that badly. And yes, the point I made is an excuse. But when you have several coaching changes in 3 years, things don't go your way. Not to mention that the coach you had in place before Kiffin became complacent and lazy. I don't question Fulmer's passion, but effort is definitely in question, no way it couldn't have been.

Patience is a virtue.
 
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If you're an athlete, have you ever heard the quote, "hard work beats talent...especially when talent doesn't work hard." Truly a cliche, but look at all the mediocre players that entered college football that ended up great. I could name dozens.
 
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