11-9 Phillip Fulmer Show

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#26
For the people that do not live in Knoxville, you would not believe the supportive phone calls this man still gets on local sports radio.
 
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allvol123 said:
For the people that do not live in Knoxville, you would not believe the supportive phone calls this man still gets on local sports radio.
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I have not called any shows. I thought something needed to be changed. That said, this man will go down as arguably the best coach in Tennessee history. I think you argue him against Neyland. CPF is definitely the best I have seen in my 33 years.

Regardless of what happens against Vandy, I think he DESERVES a standing ovation against Kentucky.
 
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footballref said:
I have not called any shows. I thought something needed to be changed. That said, this man will go down as arguably the best coach in Tennessee history. I think you argue him against Neyland. CPF is definitely the best I have seen in my 33 years.

Regardless of what happens against Vandy, I think he DESERVES a standing ovation against Kentucky.
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Neyland had something like 130 shutouts including an undefeated season in which no one scored a point on the Vols. There is a very good reason Fulmer's name is on a street and Neyland's is on the stadium. Not to mention our uniforms were pink and we were one of the worst teams in the country before Neyland came to UT. He made the program. And have you seen his record against the Bear? Please read more about Neyland before making a statement like that. Fulmer is definitely the second best coach at UT.
 
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footballref said:
I have not called any shows. I thought something needed to be changed. That said, this man will go down as arguably the best coach in Tennessee history. I think you argue him against Neyland. CPF is definitely the best I have seen in my 33 years.

Regardless of what happens against Vandy, I think he DESERVES a standing ovation against Kentucky.
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I am with you. AMEN. GO VOLS !!!!!!!!!!
 
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kptvol said:
Because it's really hard to get 18 yards on one play. If you don't get it, 4th and 18 is so imposing your team is likely to fold. 4th and 9 or so sounds feasible.
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We certainly wouldn't want to hear anything about the Vols folding.
 
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ledhed43 said:
Neyland had something like 130 shutouts including an undefeated season in which no one scored a point on the Vols. There is a very good reason Fulmer's name is on a street and Neyland's is on the stadium. Not to mention our uniforms were pink and we were one of the worst teams in the country before Neyland came to UT. He made the program. And have you seen his record against the Bear? Please read more about Neyland before making a statement like that. Fulmer is definitely the second best coach at UT.
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QFT...Fulmer is definitely a distant second behind Neyland. He was great, but Neyland was a legend.
 
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kptvol said:
They aren't showing some of UT's crappier plays. What a joke.
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Mystery solved! Now we know why CPF always says he has to look at the film and then we never make changes. He only sees an edited version we would call highlights.
 
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I am absolutely shocked that a Vol fan would even remotely consider calling Fulmer a better football coach than Neyland.
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Fulmer is a study of what might have been. Sure, he's got a nice overall record, but when you start breaking it down, it loses most of its luster.

The guy is stuck in 1998. He refused to adapt and to change with the rest of the country. The signs of this implosion were clear starting around 2002-2003, we were just lucky to have enough players that could keep things from completely derailing.

The bellyaching from the fools that support him kept him in a job when it was clear he was moving in the wrong direction. They share the blame.
 
#39
#39
When your top plays countdown includes a punt and simple 15 yard completion, you probably should just drop that segment of the show, at least for this week.
 
#41
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Reverend Bubba Flavel said:
When people say Fulmer refused to adapt and change with the rest of the country - what, exactly, are they talking about?
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"I understand the emotion. Tennessee fans who felt the program was slipping, and it was, looked around the league and saw Nick Saban (Alabama), Urban Meyer (Florida), and Mark Richt (Georgia), three coaching stars who will have their programs in the Top 10 for more seasons than not in the future. Then they looked at their guy who is today what he has always been: A former offensive lineman who believed that that answer to just about every problem was to work a little harder tomorrow than you did today."

Will Tennessee get the rock star coach it wants? | Mr. College Football | ajc.com
 
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VolDad said:
"I understand the emotion. Tennessee fans who felt the program was slipping, and it was, looked around the league and saw Nick Saban (Alabama), Urban Meyer (Florida), and Mark Richt (Georgia), three coaching stars who will have their programs in the Top 10 for more seasons than not in the future. Then they looked at their guy who is today what he has always been: A former offensive lineman who believed that that answer to just about every problem was to work a little harder tomorrow than you did today."

Will Tennessee get the rock star coach it wants? | Mr. College Football | ajc.com
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So its off the field things - like delivering a good press conference or good one-liners for the newspaper?
 
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Reverend Bubba Flavel said:
There was nothing in that article about coaching/recruiting philosophy or any on-the-field issues, simply a astatement about rock-star coaches and Phil's answers to questions from the media and fans.
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"Now to be fair to Fulmer’s critics, Tennessee was not a well-coached team this season. The transition to new offensive coordinator Dave Clawson was just terrible on every level. And the facts are that with David Cutcliffe as his offensive coordinator, Fulmer’s teams were 85-19. Without Cutcliffe Fulmer’s Tennessee teams were 65-32. Again, after 16 years, the case could be made to bring in another head coach."
 
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VolDad said:
"Now to be fair to Fulmer’s critics, Tennessee was not a well-coached team this season. The transition to new offensive coordinator Dave Clawson was just terrible on every level. And the facts are that with David Cutcliffe as his offensive coordinator, Fulmer’s teams were 85-19. Without Cutcliffe Fulmer’s Tennessee teams were 65-32. Again, after 16 years, the case could be made to bring in another head coach."
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So when people say a coach isn't changing or adapting to the times or whatever, they simply mean the coach has gotten bad?
refusing to change = getting bad?

If that is the case then I think it is a flat out inaccurate way to describe things. In general, you can have a coach that constantly tries to change and adapt to the current trend and still be bad. And specifically relating to Fulmer, he made one of his boldest, most changing moves this year in hiring Clawson, and it was very clearly a disaster.
 
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Reverend Bubba Flavel said:
So when people say a coach isn't changing or adapting to the times or whatever, they simply mean the coach has gotten bad?
refusing to change = getting bad?

If that is the case then I think it is a flat out inaccurate way to describe things. In general, you can have a coach that constantly tries to change and adapt to the current trend and still be bad. And specifically relating to Fulmer, he made one of his boldest, most changing moves this year in hiring Clawson, and it was very clearly a disaster.
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You got it. When someone says, "...they looked at their guy [CPF] who is today what he has always been: A former offensive lineman who believed that that answer to just about every problem was to work a little harder tomorrow than you did today.

They mean, "getting bad". :crazy:
 
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Reverend Bubba Flavel said:
So when people say a coach isn't changing or adapting to the times or whatever, they simply mean the coach has gotten bad?
refusing to change = getting bad?

If that is the case then I think it is a flat out inaccurate way to describe things. In general, you can have a coach that constantly tries to change and adapt to the current trend and still be bad. And specifically relating to Fulmer, he made one of his boldest, most changing moves this year in hiring Clawson, and it was very clearly a disaster.
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People mostly mean that our play calling has gone stale. Just about every analyst in the country has mentioned how stupidly conservative and predictable we have been over the past few years. We fumble a lot.....we are bad on special teams (except punting with Colquitt), we constantly make the same mistakes over and over and over again on both offense and defense. This all points to bad, stale coaching. We recruit well pretty much every year....yet, we dont have nearly the amount of players drafted as we used to....to some this can signify our lack of developing talent. Use U of Florida as an example. Their offense and special teams are cutting edge, and they rarely beat themselves.....its no coincidence that they also have a no-nonsense, get in your face head coach.....not some dude who claps at every bad play, and whos only answer to criticism over the years has been "heck, We are just gonna work our butts off this next week of practice". After seeing that disgusting, pathetic showing by our team in OUR OWN STADIUM, I cant wait for the HC to come in, and I dont care who it is.
 
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VolDad said:
You got it. When someone says, "...they looked at their guy [CPF] who is today what he has always been: A former offensive lineman who believed that that answer to just about every problem was to work a little harder tomorrow than you did today.

They mean, "getting bad". :crazy:
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And we are right back to my initial response - refusing to change/adapt = same answers to media questions and keeping the same media image.
If that is what is meant, then fine. I am not trying to argue here. I was just wanting specifics.
 
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