10 year show cause/NCAA, Tyndall discussion (merged)

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VolsSportsFan said:
No, because calban seems to have actual wit. And a bonus he's not stupid.
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then its settled SD and Buzz
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Evidently you missed this:
"In Tyndall’s first nine years as a head coach, he had more wins than Rick Pitino and Bill Self in the same period of time."
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Just like with Barnes, Patino coached in stronger conferences, namely the Big East. As did Self. These guys all coached more than 1 year in a P5 conference, while your boy tinkered about in lesser conferences. But, that means nothing to you does it?
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Evidently you missed this:
"In Tyndall’s first nine years as a head coach, he had more wins than Rick Pitino and Bill Self in the same period of time."
Seven Coaches Who Should Lead a Program Soon | Lindy's Sports
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Hmmm....I must have missed Tyndall taking a team to the Final Four from the Big East in his 7th Season. And Tyndall taking 2 different teams to the Elite 8 by his 9th season.

Yeah you're right, obviously we should just go by record alone because context doesn't mean a thing!
 
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whobethis16 said:
Just like with Barnes, Patino coached in stronger conferences, namely the Big East. As did Self. These guys all coached more than 1 year in a P5 conference, while your boy tinkered about in lesser conferences. But, that means nothing to you does it?
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Not really true about Pitino. 2 seasons big East and one SEC.
Tyndall cleaned his clock in early wins. Just sayin. Even beat him head to head.

I know. Stop feedin the troll.
 
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calban said:
Not really true about Pitino. 2 seasons big East and one SEC.
Tyndall cleaned his clock in early wins. Just sayin. Even beat him head to head.

I know. Stop feedin the troll.

PS Barnes had more than all 3, coaching 8 years BE and ACC.
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3 years is still better than 1.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Just like with Barnes, Patino coached in stronger conferences, namely the Big East. As did Self. These guys all coached more than 1 year in a P5 conference, while your boy tinkered about in lesser conferences. But, that means nothing to you does it?
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What it means is that the NCAA subdues the parity in college basketball. When Tyndall's teams won 56 games in two years with RPI's of 29 and 31, meaning FYI, they were the 29th and 31st best team in the country, and were denied invites to the NCAA while teams in the big 10 with 500 records or so get in, it shows the corrupt money grubbing power of the NCAA.
They run college basketball like the mafia. They tried to set Tyndall's feet in cement and throw him in the river. Big mistake. The organization may not survive this blunder.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
What it means is that the NCAA subdues the parity in college basketball. When Tyndall's teams won 56 games in two years with RPI's of 29 and 31, meaning FYI, they were the 29th and 31st best team in the country, and were denied invites to the NCAA while teams in the big 10 with 500 records or so get in, it shows the corrupt money grubbing power of the NCAA.
They run college basketball like the mafia. They tried to set Tyndall's feet in cement and throw him in the river. Big mistake. The organization may not survive this blunder.
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He needs to try to have higher than 113 SOS then. The RPI is not the end all-be all. That 113 was when he had the 29 RPI. As I've said, weak conference.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
What it means is that the NCAA subdues the parity in college basketball. When Tyndall's teams won 56 games in two years with RPI's of 29 and 31, meaning FYI, they were the 29th and 31st best team in the country, and were denied invites to the NCAA while teams in the big 10 with 500 records or so get in, it shows the corrupt money grubbing power of the NCAA.
They run college basketball like the mafia. They tried to set Tyndall's feet in cement and throw him in the river. Big mistake. The organization may not survive this blunder.
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The P5 conferences talking about leaving the NCAA might have more to say about the organization's future.
They don't have the manpower to police close to a thousand teams which makes them a joke at compliance anyway.
Their future is in question with or without Tyndall. Still like to see him win though.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Don't even get a thanks for advising you to get them now. Geez! On your last point, I'll be the one with Coach T. :)

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The above depicts Buzz and I reacting to you dummies who think we are the same person. I know Donnie Tyndall better than I know Buzz. I think he can say the same.
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Without a doubt! I'll be watching while relaxing in front of my tv. :thumbsup:
 
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whobethis16 said:
I know enough to understand that there is more to being selected for the tournament than just that number. Your argument for the 40 RPI and 58 SOS is better than the 29 and 113.
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Just like I said. You do not know that the RPI is a quantity used to rank sports teams based on wins and losses and strength of schedule.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Evidently you missed this:
"In Tyndall’s first nine years as a head coach, he had more wins than Rick Pitino and Bill Self in the same period of time."
Seven Coaches Who Should Lead a Program Soon | Lindy's Sports
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So what? Different times, different schedules. If all 3 had coached in the same conf at close to the same time you would have a point, otherwise its just interesting trivia.

Evidently YOU missed the part where I said I liked the hire and thought he had a good chance to do well. I still think he's a potentially good coach, and I wish this mess hadn't happened, but it did and obviously his chance to do well at TN is now zero. Plus I hope he gets to coach again even though I'm pretty sure he's guilty.

I stand by the point of my original post. Aside from W-L record, there's no statistical reason to think that Tyndall coached his team any better than Barnes coached his. IMO the fact that Donnie had an NBA player and didn't lose his top scorer for the last 8 (I think) games of the season more than accounts for W-L. If you like one coach better than the other for other reasons, fine, be my guest, but I'd rather spend my time supporting the coach we have instead of fawning over the one who's gone.

So goodbye SD, enjoy your time as the Pope of Tyndallism.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
Just like I said. You do not know that the RPI is a quantity used to rank sports teams based on wins and losses and strength of schedule.
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2013-2014 Men's College Basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI) Live - WarrenNolan.com

Read under the SOS column and tell me what it says for Southern Miss. You'll be surprised to see that I am right regarding what their SOS was that year. Hence why they were out of the NCAA, and that is a reflection of their number of wins in such a crap conference.

He won a lot of games against terrible teams, so his SOS was awful.
 
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