10 year show cause/NCAA, Tyndall discussion (merged)

[buzz4tennessee]

Doesn't matter, SDBuzz will turn it into a chance to slam Barnes and praise his Great Pumpkin god.

Of course he's on ignore so I'll never know for sure.

Only WIMPS or sissies, who can't hang in the battle of ideas, would ever use the ignore button!

And speaking of wimps, our current Coach Milquetoast can only win with 5*'s, unlike Ray Mears, Don DeVoe, Bruce Pearl, and Donnie Tyndall.

Tyndall was the "SLAYER OF RICK PITINO" a few years back, as I remember. He also won 2 conference tournaments with players in a league that included Murray State, who had coaches such as Billy Kennedy and Mark Gottfried. He won against Mike White at Southern Miss and would have won here as well, if it had not been for liars like Adam Howard and a corrupt NCAA.

Let's see how long it will take Milquetoast to produce, where he actually has to coach.

Tennessee is not a school where 5*'s matriculate without having a strong personality doing the recruiting. Donnie could do this, Barney has yet to prove so.

 

[buzz4tennessee]

Fulmer was the Great Pumpkin. Donnie was the Great Butterbean.

Attempting to make fun of someone's physical being is as LOW CLASS as it can be. You may think that you are a perfect creation, but one day you may also look in the mirror.

 

[cncchris33]

Pearl had one of the best "on floor" coaches in UT history by the name of Dane Bradshaw. Bradshaw made everyone better by his presence and Pearl realized it to the extent that he set up a $100,000 scholarship in his name. Also, Pearl did not have to recruit an almost new team after most all of the decent high school talent had been signed, sealed and delivered. When building a team with transfers, JC's and leftover high school players, one finds themselves in a bind to produce in the competitive world of SEC basketball, but Donnie at least produced us a break even team. More than I can say for Rickie!

Note to AH, aka jcv: How bout that spin from SD!

And as sure as the sun will rise in the east, you work in a way to slam Barnes, unprovoked even.

Buzz Peterson had Dane Bradshaw for exactly as long as Bruce Pearl did, yet got next to nothing out of him.

Since you brought up Barnes though, he faced the same battle Tyndall did in rebuilding almost an entire roster with leftover HS players, JUCOs, and transfers. And he did it under the black eye and negative publicity of Tyndall's very own NCAA issues.

It sounds like your entire straw man defense of Tyndall over Pearl is based largely on what Barnes did in his first year, which of course, is silly.

Hands down, without question, Pearl's 1st season @TN>>>CDT'S 1st season @TN. It's not even debatable.

 

[cncchris33]

Attempting to make fun of someone's physical being is as LOW CLASS as it can be. You may think that you are a perfect creation, but one day you may also look in the mirror.

Curious that you get to determine what insults are allowable (Coach Milquetoast, Barney), and which ones constitute "low class".

 

[buzz4tennessee]

Curious that you get to determine what insults are allowable (Coach Milquetoast, Barney), and which ones constitute "low class".

I'm not saying anything about Barnes' physical demeanor! I just don't see what anyone sees in his coaching performance that demonstrates he has the "on the floor" strategy of coaching greatness. He had all of those top rated players at Texas, yet was only able to take them to ONE "Final Four". Give guys like Rick Pitino, Dean Smith, Coach K, etc. the same kind of players and, not only will they take them to several final fours, they'll win a few!

 

[buzz4tennessee]

Curious that you get to determine what insults are allowable (Coach Milquetoast, Barney), and which ones constitute "low class".

Milquetoast was a comic strip character from the depression era, who demonstrated timidity and unassertiveness. This is how I perceive him as a coach. I have said nothing about his looks.

If you see the leadership that shows strength, then please let me know where you see it.

I am proud of his moral conscientiousness as appeared in an article in this forum within the past 12 hrs.

BTW, Pearl found the right way to deploy Dane in the system which he coached, as Tyndall did with Josh. Also, there was a player by the name of Chris Lofton that Tyndall did not have at his disposal.

Tyndall was in the process of building a strong program, when the NCAA, along with their immunity for Howard, came along to short circuit a program that was soon to be "on the rise".

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Attempting to make fun of someone's physical being is as LOW CLASS as it can be. You may think that you are a perfect creation, but one day you may also look in the mirror.

Google Butterbean, Sarge. WWE. What event did Coach Butterbean participate in at the Smokies Stadium last summer? What job did his assistant that was called Big Gulp take last year? Hint... it wasn't in basketball. Get off of your high horse *******.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Milquetoast was a comic strip character from the depression era, who demonstrated timidity and unassertiveness. This is how I perceive him as a coach. I have said nothing about his looks.

If you see the leadership that shows strength, then please let me know where you see it.

I am proud of his moral conscientiousness as appeared in an article in this forum within the past 12 hrs.

BTW, Pearl found the right way to deploy Dane in the system which he coached, as Tyndall did with Josh. Also, there was a player by the name of Chris Lofton that Tyndall did not have at his disposal.

Tyndall was in the process of building a strong program, when the NCAA, along with their immunity for Howard, came along to short circuit a program that was soon to be "on the rise".

Tyndall is guilty of cheating. He admits it. He's challenging that the level of his punishment is not in line with the degree of his crime. TN needed a coach that either did not cheat or had enough where-with-all while cheating to not get blown up by the NCAA. Donnie slapped together one class of misfits and they played well in the pre-conference schedule. He barely kept his head above water in the SEC once the opposition had "film" on the Donnie Ball defense. He had a gimmick and it worked for a very short window. Also, I doubt that in the long haul not a lot of the "misfits" were going to put up with his ****. He needed a much more impressive résumé to get away with screaming "you stupid mother ****er" at his players during games when they make mistakes. He was out of his league and would have had to turn up the cheating to win at an impressive rate at TN.

 

[cncchris33]

Milquetoast was a comic strip character from the depression era, who demonstrated timidity and unassertiveness. This is how I perceive him as a coach. I have said nothing about his looks.

If you see the leadership that shows strength, then please let me know where you see it.

I am proud of his moral conscientiousness as appeared in an article in this forum within the past 12 hrs.

BTW, Pearl found the right way to deploy Dane in the system which he coached, as Tyndall did with Josh. Also, there was a player by the name of Chris Lofton that Tyndall did not have at his disposal.

Tyndall was in the process of building a strong program, when the NCAA, along with their immunity for Howard, came along to short circuit a program that was soon to be "on the rise".

1. I know the definition of milquetoast, so spare me the vocabulary lesson. It doesn't change anything. You still are insulting Barnes, no matter how you want to sugarcoat it. My point remains; apparently you get to decide what is fair game for ridicule and what isn't.

2. You can keep throwing out every reason under the sun for Pearl's success in his 1st season (Bradshaw, Lofton, CJ Watson), and I'll continue to verbally whip you in this argument because all those guys were at Buzz Peterson's disposal too, and he laid a complete egg with them just one year before. Not only that, but Buzz had Scooter McFadgon (leading scorer) and Brandon Crump in his last year.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Can we please stop responding to this hypocritical crackpot? He's not a Vol fan, he's a Donnie Tyndall fan, and that's been more than proven.

At the least, stop acknowledging him so he has to create yet another account.

 

[Ace]

Milquetoast was a comic strip character from the depression era, who demonstrated timidity and unassertiveness. This is how I perceive him as a coach. I have said nothing about his looks.

If you see the leadership that shows strength, then please let me know where you see it.

I am proud of his moral conscientiousness as appeared in an article in this forum within the past 12 hrs.

BTW, Pearl found the right way to deploy Dane in the system which he coached, as Tyndall did with Josh. Also, there was a player by the name of Chris Lofton that Tyndall did not have at his disposal.

Tyndall was in the process of building a strong program, when the NCAA, along with their immunity for Howard, came along to short circuit a program that was soon to be "on the rise".

How anyone could come to this conclusion after watching CDT coach UT for one year is unbelievable.

CRB has a 25 year history of strong leadership as a D1 basketball coach. You may not like him, but your attack of him is as unreasonable as your undying admiration and devotion to CDT.

 

[Ace]

Can we please stop responding to this hypocritical crackpot? He's not a Vol fan, he's a Donnie Tyndall fan, and that's been more than proven.

At the least, stop acknowledging him so he has to create yet another account.

Even though I just responded, I agree and I intend to no longer feed the troll.

 

[cncchris33]

Can we please stop responding to this hypocritical crackpot? He's not a Vol fan, he's a Donnie Tyndall fan, and that's been more than proven.

At the least, stop acknowledging him so he has to create yet another account.

I enjoy putting bozos in their place. As long as he pretends to genuinely defend his points, I'll continue to refute them. When his posted thoughts become comical, I won't dignify them with a response any longer.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I enjoy putting bozos in their place. As long as he pretends to genuinely defend his points, I'll continue to refute them. When his posted thoughts become comical, I won't dignify them with a response any longer.

I thought he crossed that line a long time ago. I mean he just tried to say making fun of Tyndall was bad and chastised everyone, but then defended making fun of Barnes.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Can we please stop responding to this hypocritical crackpot? He's not a Vol fan, he's a Donnie Tyndall fan, and that's been more than proven.

At the least, stop acknowledging him so he has to create yet another account.

SD/Buzz's infatuation of Donnie Butterbean is why this thread was created. If he can throttle his unfortunate man love in the other threads then this one has served us well.

 

[buzz4tennessee]

I expect you idolaters to stick by Barney if his record in league play matches what he showed as the coach of Providence and Clemson. Check those 2 out, if you haven't already done so. He's never going to have the roster like he had at Texas where he could tell his players to "just go out and win the game", and them to have the physical ability to do just that. Of course, that phrase didn't work when his team went up against an opponent with a guy like Chris Lofton; a guy who didn't respect his talented big guy.

Note to SA/VSF: I been a UT Basketball fan since, or before, someone had to change your diaper and, also, I didn't have any knowledge of Donnie Tyndall. Now that I know who Tyndall is and his ability to devise strategy, I know he can coach rings around Barney Milquetoast.

 

[dal9]

He was out of his league and would have had to turn up the cheating to win at an impressive rate at TN.

you' re out of your ----ing element Donnie!

 

[buzz4tennessee]

Those who think that a coach from the Sunbelt can't win in the SEC are going to eat their words when Mike White gets through with his Florida upgrade. I'm surprised that people with attitude have accepted a mid-major football coach here at UT. Everyone has to start somewhere. If Barnes had not been fired from Texas, we may have had to take a hs coach. Just saying.

 

[JustWin1]

Haha this guy :loco:

I expect you idolaters to stick by Barney if his record in league play matches what he showed as the coach of Providence and Clemson. Check those 2 out, if you haven't already done so. He's never going to have the roster like he had at Texas where he could tell his players to "just go out and win the game", and them to have the physical ability to do just that. Of course, that phrase didn't work when his team went up against an opponent with a guy like Chris Lofton; a guy who didn't respect his talented big guy.

Note to SA/VSF: I been a UT Basketball fan since, or before, someone had to change your diaper and, also, I didn't have any knowledge of Donnie Tyndall. Now that I know who Tyndall is and his ability to devise strategy, I know he can coach rings around Barney Milquetoast.

 

[edyeary]

I've read this crap for weeks now and still haven't figured out any point you're trying to make Buzz. Tilting at windmills. Leaves me with only one conclusion. You're a troll and enjoy this.

 

[Dallasbowlin]

I've read this crap for weeks now and still haven't figured out any point you're trying to make Buzz. Tilting at windmills. Leaves me with only one conclusion. You're a troll and enjoy this.

But does he shoot bucks from a windmill?

 

[edyeary]

Methinks he's doing something else in that windmill.

 

[Stoked]

you' re out of your ----ing element Donnie!

No one gave you a like for this gold? Smh lol

 

[buzz4tennessee]

Wrong

Only 1 losing season that I see

My response got messed up. Read the one prior to the one you quoted. Was talking about league records for winning and not overall records. Any division I coach in a major conference should be able to have a winning season record by playing enough cupcakes.

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I expect you idolaters to stick by Barney if his record in league play matches what he showed as the coach of Providence and Clemson. Check those 2 out, if you haven't already done so. He's never going to have the roster like he had at Texas where he could tell his players to "just go out and win the game", and them to have the physical ability to do just that. Of course, that phrase didn't work when his team went up against an opponent with a guy like Chris Lofton; a guy who didn't respect his talented big guy.

Note to SA/VSF: I been a UT Basketball fan since, or before, someone had to change your diaper and, also, I didn't have any knowledge of Donnie Tyndall. Now that I know who Tyndall is and his ability to devise strategy, I know he can coach rings around Barney Milquetoast.

Providence:
Big East conference record in their entire history before Rick Barnes is 39-91. This includes Rick Pitino's run.

At Providence Rick Barnes was 47-55 and won the conference tournament in his 6th season.

Providence had a losing conference record in 8 of the 9 Big East Conference seasons before Coach Milk Toast coached his six years. He had 8 more conference wins in 1/3rd fewer seasons.

Providence in Big East basketball is akin to Vanderbilt in SEC football.