'10 JC QB Nick Lamaison

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TENNaciousUTfan said:
Larry, taking a single summer English class to satisfy an SEC Athletic rule wouldn't preclude him from applying and being admitted to the school. Remember, he was ALREADY an academic qualifier right out of HS. Therefore, what he takes in JUCO is irrelevant to his admission at UT.
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Are you serious? Once you have taken any classes at another institution, UT classifies that person as a transferring student upon which the transferring student must meet the minimum guidelines set forth by UT for admission. Your status as an incoming freshman is irrelevant. A person can be accepted pending receipt of all transcripts but cannot be admitted until all paperwork is filed. If he finished his class on Friday, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that all paperwork is here and he has been admitted. What he takes in JUCO is VERY relevant.
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TennTradition said:
When no sources are implied or links given, a post should generally be regarded as opinion.

For example, no source was implied for the above sentence, nor was a link provided. Thus, one would be best served by regarding this comment as opinion/belief/understanding.

You'll have to help me out here. When you said this, previously in this thread, I didn't realize I was supposed to take this as fact...
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As I stated, you already have a walk on to run the practice squad. With just Nick and Stephens as the only 2 scholarship QB's going into the fall of 2010, how can it be otherwise?

Some of you act like that's what Nick was brought here to do...to be the equipment manager and practice squad QB...instead of compete with the other QB's on the roster.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
As I stated, you already have a walk on to run the practice squad...so my statement is factual. With just Nick and Stephens as the only 2 scholarship QB's going into the fall of 2010, how can it be otherwise?

Some of you act like that's what Nick was brought here to do...to be the equipment manager and practice squad QB...instead of compete with the other QB's on the roster.
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As I stated, there is less of a guarantee that a walk-on hangs around than there is for a sholarshipped athlete. Nick has some skills, if not, then why not just give the scholarship to Rozier to keep him around. (Besides, you can't even really run an effective spring practice with just 2 QBs.) However, it seems that the primary reason Lamaison was brought in THIS year would be to have him here in the spring. The coaches surely hoped they would add at least one additional 2010 QB to join the two Nicks for the following fall.

Your statement is by no means fact as it implies that he was brought in to compete first...and I don't see how you could know that. I regard it as your opinion, and you may be right...but it isn't fact. By your own standards, it deserved an IMO. However, I'm not a complete dolt, so I realized you hadn't confirmed that with the coaches even though you didn't include an IMO.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
As I stated, you already have a walk on to run the practice squad. With just Nick and Stephens as the only 2 scholarship QB's going into the fall of 2010, how can it be otherwise?

Some of you act like that's what Nick was brought here to do...to be the equipment manager and practice squad QB...instead of compete with the other QB's on the roster.
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Is this opinion?
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tripper said:
Are you serious? Once you have taken any classes at another institution, UT classifies that person as a transferring student upon which the transferring student must meet the minimum guidelines set forth by UT for admission. Your status as an incoming freshman is irrelevant. A person can be accepted pending receipt of all transcripts but cannot be admitted until all paperwork is filed. If he finished his class on Friday, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that all paperwork is here and he has been admitted. What he takes in JUCO is VERY relevant.
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The point was, out of HS, he was in good standing, unlike other JUCO prospects who were not. He is therefore under different guidelines/requirements than they are (for example....since he was a qualifier out of HS, he does not have to graduate the junior college, but can transfer at ANY time). As long as he meets the minimum academic standards for entry into the University, it is indeed irrelevant what courses he takes/took in JUCO.

Transfer rules may vary from college to college, but if a student goes to a board of regents junior college in TN, to get their general ed. classes out of the way (saving big $$$), their classes in JUCO only matter when it comes time to REGISTER, not for admission...as long as they have the proper qualifications. As a Transfer, he can simply forward the transcripts that he has already completed. What he happens to be in the process of taking while waiting to hear back from UT admissions doesn't matter. They will be updated once he is officially enrolled.

I think you're mistaking a student in good standing right out of HS, with those who are not and rather NEED to take remedial courses in JUCO just to get caught up.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
As I stated, you already have a walk on to run the practice squad. With just Nick and Stephens as the only 2 scholarship QB's going into the fall of 2010, how can it be otherwise?

Some of you act like that's what Nick was brought here to do...to be the equipment manager and practice squad QB...instead of compete with the other QB's on the roster.
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there is NO assurance whatsoever the walk-on is here in spring. that is big concern imo...

this walk-on has baseball money. He is going to put out a lot of effort this fall with very little to no benefits. Concerned he may tire quickly and go to do something else.

Had BJ not left, kid would not have gotten offer IMO

these are only my opinions..
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Is this opinion?
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When you have factual evidence to support your claim, then you have room to speak matter-of-factly.

Too many people, basing their statements out of sheer guesswork routinely speak matter-of-factly. I try to mention "I think" or IMO/IMHO, very frequently when I'm merely speculating. With the depth chart having only one scholarship QB on the roster for 2010, it's conclusive enough to say that.

You're just trying to be an :shaking2:
 
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LWSVOL said:
there is NO assurance whatsoever the walk-on is here in spring. that is big concern imo...

this walk-on has baseball money. He is going to put out a lot of effort this fall with very little to no benefits. Concerned he may tire quickly and go to do something else.

Had BJ not left, kid would not have gotten offer IMO

these are only my opinions..
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I agree about him being brought here out of need...but why does he have to be a scrub, just because there's need? What I'm saying is, there is a BIG double standard here. Folks give CLK and staff credit for finding "Diamonds in the Rough" at other positions, but mistakenly ASS-ume this QB has to be a scrub since, like the other recruits in question, he was overlooked by other programs.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
I agree about him being brought here out of need...but why does he have to be a scrub, just because there's need? What I'm saying is, there is a BIG double standard here. Folks give CLK and staff credit for finding "Diamonds in the Rough" at other positions, but mistakenly ASS-ume this QB has to be a scrub since, like the other recruits in question, he was overlooked by other programs.
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It's possible that he will be a big contributor, but there are signs that point to the fact that he may just be a decent backup who will provide a much-needed arm next spring.

He was a full qualifier out of high school with no D-1 offers. He went to JUCO, lit it up, and only one offer from ND State until UT happened to see him and Orgeron realized they could get him in this year. As far as we know, after we offered, no one else did. Let's say we did find a diamond in the rough, but once we found him it seemed that still no one was interested. Maybe he told the others to forget it...it's possible.

Let me as you this, if he were a 2010 prospect, do you think we would have offered? I personally don't think so. That is why I think the primary reason he is here is for next spring...the fact that he will have a chance to compete is an added bonus.

He's not crap...he can throw the ball. I hope that he progresses nicely here and can contribute for us, but to think that he is the answer to our QB concerns at this point is clearly misguided.
 
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TENNaciousUTfan said:
I agree about him being brought here out of need...but why does he have to be a scrub, just because there's need? What I'm saying is, there is a BIG double standard here. Folks give CLK and staff credit for finding "Diamonds in the Rough" at other positions, but mistakenly ASS-ume this QB has to be a scrub since, like the other recruits in question, he was overlooked by other programs.
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based on public evidence I can see your point. but everything around this recruitment is certainly not in the public domain...
 
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Sorry guys... im tryin to get more info, but looks like i won't get word of Lamaison for another 2 weeks..... trying real hard to get something... as soon as i know something, youlll definitely know.
 
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so i dont know if this has been pointed out ever, it probably has, but the title of the thread incorrectly lists him as a '10 recruit. i just noticed that
 
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Tn and North Dakota St werent the only ones interested..just the only ones that offered...we can't say for sure that nobody has called him since our offer and he told them he was already coming here or maybe they couldnt offer him a scholly for this year and only next since most signing classes were done.

I wouldnt call him a scrub..he looks to have some potential and talent to work with.
 
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wildberry14 said:
so i dont know if this has been pointed out ever, it probably has, but the title of the thread incorrectly lists him as a '10 recruit. i just noticed that
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Huh, go figure. I didn't realize it until you pointed that out. You're right, should be '09.
 
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Doesn't he experience in an offense similiar to what Kiffin and Chaney will run? I swear I remember reading somewhere that we will have some kind of pro-style/spread hybrid, and that Lamaison ran the same type of offense at Mt.Sac
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pantone151 said:
Doesn't he experience in an offense similiar to what Kiffin and Chaney will run? I swear I remember reading somewhere that we will have some kind of pro-style/spread hybrid, and that Lamaison ran the same type of offense at Mt.Sac
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I haven't heard anywhere anything whatsoever about us running any variation of the spread. The only sense I can make of that suggestion is that someone is looking at what Chaney did at Purdue, but he's said himself his philosophies have changed to more of a pro-style mindset.

There will be sets that are run also in the spread that we will use, but that is true in all prostyle offenses. There isn't any way we are running a hybrid of the spread here. We are avoiding recruiting players that fit the spread just for one of many indicators that that isn't the case.
 
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Still dead.

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