'10 GA CB Marcques Dixon

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Lord Vader said:
Malcolm Jenkins- 3star
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"MrBam, nobody cares about stars." - LV

Then you try and throw out a random Malcolm Jenkins to prove 3-star power? hahaha Gimme a break dude. You call me out for talking stars then you do the same thing.

Would you rather have a class full of 3-stars or a class of nothing but 5-stars? Exactly. Don't lie to yourself and name 1 player to make a point that 3-stars are just as good. It doesn't work that way. :hi:
 
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Originally Posted by raynochonspeed
Great, LV. I don't check facts (other than his current 1-star on Scout). I speculate.

So this guy has so flown under the radar that no scouts who went to see Stripling, Malcome, Mincy, or Terrence Smith and other SW DeKalb prospects (or any players on their competition) play live offered him or requested film until this week?
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Hmmmmm

Dixon was somewhat of an unknown in recruiting circles when the fall started due to the simple fact that he didn't play football during his junior season.

But he wasn't a complete unknown as it turns out.

Tennessee assistant Lance Thompson had spotted Dixon during the spring of his sophomore year, when Thompson was still at Alabama.
...after Thompson switched jobs and Dixon fell off the map by sitting out a year.

"Coach Lance had actually started recruiting me a long time ago, back when I was in 10th grade so I knew him already," Dixon said. "Once I started playing again I think he let the rest of the staff know about me up there and told them they needed to take a look at me.
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guess that debunks your theory....
 
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VOLNBAMA said:
Montori Hughes wasn't even ranked until he committed to us about a week before signing day. Now he's our best DT and a future 1st day draft pick
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He's our best DT because we don't have any depth there.

He wasn't ranked prior to his commitment to us, you're right. But he also didn't have 5 other players on his team that were already committed to SEC schools. Dixon had that. He should've had more offers at this point than he did IMO. You can say "he sat out his junior year" or "his film got out late" all you want. Bottom line is... teams have gone there to scout his teammates and had to have seen him play. You can count his scholly offers on one hand (maybe he had 6??) but two of those were Central Michigan and Southern Miss.

I'm only glad we have him because I trust our coaches' scouting over my own. I wouldn't be saying that if Fulmer was coaching.
 
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Kid has skills and there's interest in him from major schools.

TCU, Boise St, Utah, BYU are schools that don't get the heavy weight recruits like the big name schools...they seem to do well with their 3 star chumps.
 
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MDBJJC said:
Kid has skills and there's interest in him from major schools.

TCU, Boise St, Utah, BYU are schools that don't get the heavy weight recruits like the big name schools...they seem to do well with their 3 star chumps.
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When you have 3-star players and the teams you face have 3-star players, that's okay.

This is the SEC. Recruiting matters. Fulmer proved that theory by recruiting 3-star players in 2006 and 2008. He's sitting at home now.
 
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MrBamSeydu said:
He's our best DT because we don't have any depth there.

He wasn't ranked prior to his commitment to us, you're right. But he also didn't have 5 other players on his team that were already committed to SEC schools. Dixon had that. He should've had more offers at this point than he did IMO. You can say "it was his first year" or "his film got out late" all you want. Bottom line is... teams have gone there to scout his teammates and had to have seen him play. You can count his scholly offers on one hand (maybe he had 6??) but two of those were Central Michigan and Southern Miss.

I'm only glad we have him because I trust our coaches' scouting over my own. I wouldn't be saying that if Fulmer was coaching.
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he didn't have any offers until his senior season ended because he didn't play his junior yr...is this so hard to comprehend???

If someone doesn't play their junior yr the normal thing to do is wait until their senior film is released to make a decision on an offer. This way you have as much game film as a possible to evaluate them. pretty simple IMO
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
he didn't have any offers until his senior season ended because he didn't play his junior yr...is this so hard to comprehend???

If someone doesn't play their junior yr the normal thing to do is wait until their senior film is released to make a decision on an offer. This way you have as much game film as a possible to evaluate them. pretty simple IMO
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Reggie Bush could've never played football in his life. He would've had 20 offers by mid-season his senior year.

It matters.
 
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What matters is that our coaches eval their own talent. Do yourself a favor if you haven't already and read Meat Market.

Our coaches know talent. I trust their judgement over a Scout, VQ, Lemmings, what have you.

Yes, you have a greater percentage of success if you are a 5 star...but there are no guarantees. Yes, the odds are that if you have top 4-5 stars year in and year out you're chances for success are higher...no guarantees either (FSU, UGA come to mind).

Even the best programs have their share of 3 stars on their roster...having a few doesn't break your class. Michael Taylor is a great example of a guy who was a three star and should be a four star...I think our coaches knew that before the Scout and Ricals chumps. What say you?
 
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This whole argument is meaningless. Fulmer brought in 5 stars (Donald & Vinson) that didn't work out. He also brought in 5 stars that did (Berry). The thing is all about evaluating talent. I would rather have a class full of guys that my coaches had recruited and visited and determined that they can compete at the highest level and help MY team win. There are 5 stars that succeed, 4 stars that succeed, 3 stars, etc etc. I think everyone can agree that they trust this evaluators on this staff and know that they do not look at the recruiting rankings. They break down film, visit with prospects, and their coaches.

3 stars make up the college game. They are not the exception. There are 100's of more 3 stars in the game. Only a handful of 5 stars are out there. With the number differential it is the 4/3 and even 2 stars that will make the difference if you can evaluate and determine which ones will become players.

I have agreed with both sides throughout this argument, but wanted to point one last thing out. Somewhere Mr. Bam said that he would take a class of 5 stars instead of a class of 3 stars. While I agree, it is obviously illogical to think you can get all 5 stars, so I will reword it and say you would rather have a 5 star instead of a 3 star, and I completely disagree with this. I think times Fulmer took 5 stars to get 5 stars (Donald, Vinson, several others). I would rather take the player that fits our system, will develop with our coaching, and is a good kid. I trust our staff now to make the right decisions, so if they do offer a 3 star or a 1 star I will be happy because I know they think that guy can be a player for us.
 
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MDBJJC said:
What matters is that our coaches eval their own talent. Do yourself a favor if you haven't already and read Meat Market.

Our coaches know talent. I trust their judgement over a Scout, VQ, Lemmings, what have you.

Yes, you have a greater percentage of success if you are a 5 star...but there are no guarantees. Yes, the odds are that if you have top 4-5 stars year in and year out you're chances for success are higher...no guarantees either (FSU, UGA come to mind).

Even the best programs have their share of 3 stars on their roster...having a few doesn't break your class. Michael Taylor is a great example of a guy who was a three star and should be a four star...I think our coaches knew that before the Scout and Ricals chumps. What say you?
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+10 (I was typing when you posted this brillance)
 
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You just have to read Meat Market.

Ed O learned how to evaluate talent from Jommy Johnson.

Ed O is a master.
 
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MDBJJC said:
You just have to read Meat Market.

Ed O learned how to evaluate talent from Jommy Johnson.

Ed O is a master.
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Which is exactly why I'm not second guessing taking this kid.

Everything I'm saying about ratings/rankings is just in general. I know Coach O knows what he's doing.
 
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MDBJJC said:
You just have to read Meat Market.

Ed O learned how to evaluate talent from Jommy Johnson.

Ed O is a master.
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Jommy Johnson??

Is that the invisible monster your mom used to threaten you with that would come out of the closet and get you if you didn't have your PJ's and ready for bed by a certain time? Just kidding.

I've read Meat Market and I know all about Jimmy Johnson and Ed O.
 
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if rivals and scout were that good....they had jobs for florida,usc,alabama.....the point is these recruiting sites is a business...its for the fans...look we have the number one class!! but like i posted earlier...you guys were number 11 on rivals before dixon....then you jumped to number 7 in their ranking...thats the difference between 7 th ranked class and an 11th?
 
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