'10 CA QB Jesse Scroggins (USC Solid Verbal)

Which school will Scroggins verbally commit to tomorrow?


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Step back and say to yourself, "I am sending messages to a 17 year old high school kid,who I have never met, over the internet, about where he should spend some of the best years of his life." And no, Florida and USC are not doing this because they do not obsess over recruiting a player like this fan base does. It actually really makes our fan base look bad, like Auburn bad.

I think you guys are taking this all wrong. I am not one of those guys who sends messages and tries to recruit by bashing other teams. I would never even mention to another recruit that I thought Meyer was lying about changing his whole system for one recruit. I'd never mention that I think he could get lost in the shuffle of all the talent at USC. I simply wanted the kid to know that at UT, we are passionate, and he would have a great experience here.
It was all in good fun. I promise I haven't been harassing anyone or doing anything like that to JS. I asked him to be my "friend" on myspace when I heard about the pics of The Rock and how he had Rockytop on his songs list. I just wanted to see that stuff for myself. This morning, I thought Sab articulated a nice message, and I agreed that it should be sent to JS.
C'mon! We know we aren't going to get this guy. I just thought, "why not?!" The message wasn't rude or anything. It was just positive about what he could get from Tennessee. Grasping at straws here. It took 11 seconds of my day to copy, paste, and click send. Take it easy! I promise that this message (which probably won't even be viewed by JS) will not make him change his mind if UT is the choice he's leaning toward.
 
There's no way he's going to UF, but I'm fine with him stringing them along whether he becomes a Vol or a Trojan.

UF being in the race hurts us. If you don't think that UMs sales pitch is something along the lines of "The choice is really USC vs. UF. If you come to the SEC do you want to go to a school that hasn't won a conference championship this decade or do you want to go to a school that has won two of the last three MNCs? Do you want to put your future in the hands of a guy who has yet to coach a single game, get a single UT player into the pros, a guy who was fired from his last gig because he was an incompetent liar? Or do you want to play for a guy who is established, won at every stop in his coaching career, has put many UF player in the pros and whose teams will compete for MNCs every year? This is the biggest decision of your life, how much a gamble are you willing to take with your future?" then your naive.
 
UF being in the race hurts us. If you don't think that UMs sales pitch is something along the lines of "The choice is really USC vs. UF. If you come to the SEC do you want to go to a school that hasn't won a conference championship this decade or do you want to go to a school that has won two of the last three MNCs? Do you want to put your future in the hands of a guy who has yet to coach a single game, get a single UT player into the pros, a guy who was fired from his last gig because he was an incompetent liar? Or do you want to play for a guy who is established, won at every stop in his coaching career, has put many UF player in the pros and whose teams will compete for MNCs every year? This is the biggest decision of your life, how much a gamble are you willing to take with your future?" then your naive.
Good post! Fla. is in this more than people think.
 
UF being in the race hurts us. If you don't think that UMs sales pitch is something along the lines of "The choice is really USC vs. UF. If you come to the SEC do you want to go to a school that hasn't won a conference championship this decade or do you want to go to a school that has won two of the last three MNCs? Do you want to put your future in the hands of a guy who has yet to coach a single game, get a single UT player into the pros, a guy who was fired from his last gig because he was an incompetent liar? Or do you want to play for a guy who is established, won at every stop in his coaching career, has put many UF player in the pros and whose teams will compete for MNCs every year? This is the biggest decision of your life, how much a gamble are you willing to take with your future?" then your naive.


and thats scary :scare: i really dont think that we have to worry about JS actually going to UF. but the points you brought up coming from CUM will hurt us. even if hes not going to UF, its hard not to take a national champion winning coach seriously about a cocky/unproven coach and a inept program...
 
I'm hearing scroggins is commiting to sc today. Rivals suggests that is true:

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I heard rumors last night that Scroggins, Bailey and another player were going to commit to USC today. Where there is smoke, there is fire. I hope this isn't true however.
 
scroggins will commit on the 25th holy sh**. if it was today he would have told somebody and it would be out by now just cuz his teamate is announcing doesnt mean he has to. and leave scroggins alone on myspace its pointless. nobodys words is gonna change the kids opinion. i think the rock sealed the deal with him bout us fans without putting it in words. oh yea and scroggins is all vol!:D. people need to get their confidence up
 
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Under section “Representatives of Athletic Interests”

A “representative of an institution’s athletics interests” is anyone who is known (or should be known) by a member of the institution’s athletic administration to:

1. Be a member of or have participated in any organization promoting the institution’s intercollegiate athletics program (i.e. booster club).
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3. Have provided benefits to enrolled student-athletes
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5. Have been involved, in any way, in the promotion of the University’s athletics program.

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1. Only coaches and institutional staff members may be involved in the recruiting process. All “athletics representatives” who are not employees of the University of Tennessee are prohibited from contacting a prospect by telephone, letter or in-person, on or off campus, for the purpose of encouraging participation in athletics at the University of Tennessee
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b. Cosigning or arranging a loan
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d. Providing special discount for goods and services
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Note: A prospect is a person who has started classes for the ninth grade.

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Someone should forward this to Alabama. :)
 
UF being in the race hurts us.
Yes but I don't think for any of the reasons you mentioned. I doubt he really wants Scroggins. He primarily doesn't want UT to have him. Part of it is probably personal by now... some is just good strategy to keep a dangerous program down.

IMHO, his angle is to get JS to USC. He is probably hitting JS with negative recruiting on overdrive... which was kind of born out by some comments JS made a couple of weeks ago concerning the secondary violations.
 

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