'10 CA QB Jesse Scroggins (USC Solid Verbal)

[orutvol]

done! I put "Good luck with your decision" in the subject line

You sent it to him in a message?

 

[RCKYT0P]

done! I put "Good luck with your decision" in the subject line

Very nice....

Would it not be awesome if he mentioned something about it!

 

[cwil74`]

You sent it to him in a message?

Wow, stupid idea. Let the kid be. He's under enough stress already. At least it will make him feel better about the choice that he makes today when he gets home and sees the crazy UT fans stalking him.

 

[orutvol]

Wow, stupid idea. Let the kid be. He's under enough stress already. At least it will make him feel better about the choice that he makes today when he gets home and sees the crazy UT fans stalking him.

How is it a stupid idea? It was not badgering him or annoying him. I have always been against messaging him or adding him on Myspace, facebook, or Aim, but I felt after reading Sab's message, it warranted sending the message this once. Nobody was trying to be crazy or stalk him. It was just a very heart-felt message from one of our top recruiting gurus on this board.

 

[cwil74`]

How is it a stupid idea? It was not badgering him or annoying him. I have always been against messaging him or adding him on Myspace, facebook, or Aim, but I felt after reading Sab's message, it warranted sending the message this once. Nobody was trying to be crazy or stalk him. It was just a very heart-felt message from one of our top recruiting gurus on this board.

If you can't see how that's a bad idea, I can't help you.

 

[orutvol]

If you can't see how that's a bad idea, I can't help you.

Wow, Ok sorry Mr. Know it all. Maybe you should tell us how to run everything. At least back up your argument. I told you my point of view. What is yours? That you cant help me??? Great counter argument my friend.

 

[TOP]

9 days... or today apparently.

 

[Panthro]

If you can't see how that's a bad idea, I can't help you.

Did you go to the same school as Buster on "Arrested Development"?

Don't ever do anything that could possibly bother anyone. You shouldn't be seen or heard.

 

[Tennakey]

what made you choose Tennessee coming from across the country?

I'm from TENN, always loved TENN, been to UT sooo many times, parents went there.....I can go on and on..
Academics, a part of it, but attending UT b/c it was always a dream of mine.

 

[Tennakey]

He's up posting pretty early in the morning for a kid in Cali on summer vacation.

Well, you're right about one thing. I'm on vacation, but I'm not in CA.
I'm in Clarksville, Tennessee visiting DAD. (Army)

 

[cwil74`]

Did you go to the same school as Buster on "Arrested Development"?

Don't ever do anything that could possibly bother anyone. You shouldn't be seen or heard.

You are trying to convince a 17 year old kid that you've never met before to come to a school across the country. The only rationale you have for this is because you've heard he can play QB.

The kid is making the biggest decision so far in his life. He doesn't need redneck fans sending him messages on myspace. I hope he makes the best decision for himself. I have no idea what that decision is. I am definitely not going to bother him with my opinion. My life will not change one bit based on the decision he makes.

Besides all the silliness of it, it's a recruiting violation.

 

[First&Tenn]

I think many will disagree with sending him that based on a few reasons:

1. If you have any relation with or donate any money to UT, you need to keep as far away from these kids as possible to avoid any possibility of a violation.
2. It's a high-risk proposition. Scroggins has already said he doesn't like being bugged on the social networking sites. This action may have a positive result with him reading and appreciating Sab's strong words. It may also backfire with him being annoyed and deleting it without ever reading a word.
3. Our coaches represent one of the best (if not THE best) recruiting staffs in the country. If we leave it up to them, they will find a way to communicate all of the positives UT football has to offer. With that in mind, why take the above mentioned risk?

 

[matts42012]

He did say he also love the crazy fans down here.....this will fall under that catigory.

 

[LWSVOL]

I think many will disagree with sending him that based on a few reasons:

1. If you have any relation with or donate any money to UT, you need to keep as far away from these kids as possible to avoid any possibility of a violation.
2. It's a high-risk proposition. Scroggins has already said he doesn't like being bugged on the social networking sites. This action may have a positive result with him reading and appreciating Sab's strong words. It may also backfire with him being annoyed and deleting it without ever reading a word.
3. Our coaches represent one of the best (if not THE best) recruiting staffs in the country. If we leave it up to them, they will find a way to communicate all of the positives UT football has to offer. With that in mind, why take the above mentioned risk?

IMO when you participate on a message board site that supports an institution you then fit the category of a "supporter" of that program. You then can be put in category of "booster".

I know our compliance people view it that way...

 

[First&Tenn]

IMO when you participate on a message board site that supports an institution you then fit the category of a "supporter" of that program. You then can be put in category of "booster".

I know our compliance people view it that way...

Yeah. I originally wrote "if you donate any money to", but I went back and edited it to be a little more general because of situations like that.

 

[Panthro]

You are trying to convince a 17 year old kid that you've never met before to come to a school across the country. The only rationale you have for this is because you've heard he can play QB.

The kid is making the biggest decision so far in his life. He doesn't need redneck fans sending him messages on myspace. I hope he makes the best decision for himself. I have no idea what that decision is. I am definitely not going to bother him with my opinion. My life will not change one bit based on the decision he makes.

Besides all the silliness of it, it's a recruiting violation.

Okay. So don't send him a message, and he won't get one from a redneck.
Oh, and his decision does have an impact on my life. I am a fan of the Vols, and it would definitely excite me if they could land this recruit. I'm obviously not going to freak out if he doesn't sign with the Vols, but sure I care. You do too, or you wouldn't be on this message board.
And how is that a recruiting violation? You're reaching there dude.

If you read the email, you'd see that it wasn't some "redneck" message saying, "come to Tennessee because USC and Florida are gay." It was a sincere message to a kid who is definitely getting it from all angles right now. If you don't think USC and UF fans are reaching out to him too, then you are naive.

 

[jheri curl vol]

Jesse Scroggins and DB Dion Bailey to commit to USC tomorrow.

not happenin'

 

[onevolfan]

I'm sure he is getting all sorts of emails, etc. from fans of all 3 schools on his list, so I would not even worry about it.

 

[johnnylongball]

Well, you're right about one thing. I'm on vacation, but I'm not in CA.
I'm in Clarksville, Tennessee visiting DAD. (Army)

I stand corrected. Thanks for your info on JS. Really hope you are correct.

 

[Section_P_Row_48]

Is he or is he not committing today?

 

[Weezy]

Step back and say to yourself, "I am sending messages to a 17 year old high school kid,who I have never met, over the internet, about where he should spend some of the best years of his life." And no, Florida and USC are not doing this because they do not obsess over recruiting a player like this fan base does. It actually really makes our fan base look bad, like Auburn bad.

 

[cwil74`]

Okay. So don't send him a message, and he won't get one from a redneck.

First of all, clever. Congratulations.

Oh, and his decision does have an impact on my life. I am a fan of the Vols, and it would definitely excite me if they could land this recruit. I'm obviously not going to freak out if he doesn't sign with the Vols, but sure I care. You do too, or you wouldn't be on this message board.

I'm interested in recruiting because it is fun. It's like football dating. You never know who wants to get in bed with you and who wants to drag you along just to dump you for the devil (Meyer).

And how is that a recruiting violation? You're reaching there dude.

LWS explained above.

If you read the email, you'd see that it wasn't some "redneck" message saying, "come to Tennessee because USC and Florida are gay." It was a sincere message to a kid who is definitely getting it from all angles right now. If you don't think USC and UF fans are reaching out to him too, then you are naive

USC and FL fans care much less than us. They are on top of the mountain.

 

[Montrell Hardy]

Step back and say to yourself, "I am sending messages to a 17 year old high school kid,who I have never met, over the internet, about where he should spend some of the best years of his life." And no, Florida and USC are not doing this because they do not obsess over recruiting a player like this fan base does. It actually really makes our fan base look bad, like Auburn bad.

Florida and USC fans obsess just as much.

However I agree that is makes the fan base and the fans look bad when they are leaving teenagers messages like that on Facebook or Myspace begging them to come to this school.

UK fans are notorious for stalking basketball recruits on sites like that. And I would say ever doing anything similar to what a UK fan does is embarrassing.

 

[utmba93]

There's no way he's going to UF, but I'm fine with him stringing them along whether he becomes a Vol or a Trojan.

 

[LWSVOL]

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