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tango

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I'm still struggling to be excited about the Dooley hire.

A man of character? Sure.
A man of good moral fiber? Ok, sure.
A man of class? Fine.
A man who salvaged a signing class under tough circumstances? Ok.

What I don't know is what kind of classes can be landed soley by Dooley's work. Am I willing to give him a chance? Yes.

I feel very nervous about 3 to 5 yrs from now.
I feel that Bama and Florida are going to consistently land top 5 classes year over year, and if Dooley cannot consistently sign Top 5 classes year over year, then we are going to struggle.

It remains to be seen, but if Dooley and staff is every bit as good as Saban and staff or Meyer and staff, then (all else equal) it seems to me that the difference in competitivenss will boil down to recruiting classes and depth.

Like I said, I'm willing to give the guy a chance, but this must be what Carolina fans feel like. ....(except that Carolina fans just KNOW they're going to suck...)....

Go ahead and flame away...
 
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Oops.. neglected to put a question in there...

Anybody think Dooley and staff will consistently be able to keep up with Bama and UF recruiting classes year over year?
 
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#3
Nothing will satisfy some folks, the man could land the #1 recruiting class and win a national title and people would still find problems to bring up.
 
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there's not much difference between the #1 and #10 class. It comes down to coaching after that
 
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tango this is bravo please get your head out of your azz.
 
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tango said:
I'm still struggling to be excited about the Dooley hire.

A man of character? Sure.
A man of good moral fiber? Ok, sure.
A man of class? Fine.
A man who salvaged a signing class under tough circumstances? Ok.

What I don't know is what kind of classes can be landed soley by Dooley's work. Am I willing to give him a chance? Yes.

I feel very nervous about 3 to 5 yrs from now.
I feel that Bama and Florida are going to consistently land top 5 classes year over year, and if Dooley cannot consistently sign Top 5 classes year over year, then we are going to struggle.

It remains to be seen, but if Dooley and staff is every bit as good as Saban and staff or Meyer and staff, then (all else equal) it seems to me that the difference in competitivenss will boil down to recruiting classes and depth.

Like I said, I'm willing to give the guy a chance, but this must be what Carolina fans feel like. ....(except that Carolina fans just KNOW they're going to suck...)....

Go ahead and flame away...
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Epic Fail.
 
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i'm struggling to get excited about your post.

everyone had their doubts about urban getting it done in the sec when he left utah. i think i'm gonna wait at least one year before i make a decision on this hire becuase at the end of the day, we just don't know.
 
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Well, can he keep up with UF and Bama? Well, i'd say he's done a hell of a job in the 3 weeks that he's been here.
 
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VOLNBAMA said:
there's not much difference between the #1 and #10 class. It comes down to coaching after that
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Florida seems to have gotten almost as many Rivals 4* recruits than we signed overall...

Edit to add: I suppose my point is, if it's like this year over year for the next 4 or 5 years, can we still be competitive with the UFs and Bamas?
 
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This idiotic to even compare classes with these guys on an equal scale. He had two to three weeks to get/keep a class together and still had a great class. Either you can hop in the back of the Dooley Truck or go where Kiffin visits on occasion(H**L).
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Fulmer could get top 10 classes. I say as long as your in the top tier it comes down to coaching
 
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tango said:
Oops.. neglected to put a question in there...

Anybody think Dooley and staff will consistently be able to keep up with Bama and UF recruiting classes year over year?
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you've said this twice now.. i have no idea what it means
 
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I think the coaching staff knows what it likes and needs, just look at VT, they hardly ever sign a top 10 class and still end up doing very well. I think they will be fine in the future
 
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tango said:
I'm still struggling to be excited about the Dooley hire.

A man of character? Sure.
A man of good moral fiber? Ok, sure.
A man of class? Fine.
A man who salvaged a signing class under tough circumstances? Ok.

What I don't know is what kind of classes can be landed soley by Dooley's work. Am I willing to give him a chance? Yes.

I feel very nervous about 3 to 5 yrs from now.
I feel that Bama and Florida are going to consistently land top 5 classes year over year, and if Dooley cannot consistently sign Top 5 classes year over year, then we are going to struggle.

It remains to be seen, but if Dooley and staff is every bit as good as Saban and staff or Meyer and staff, then (all else equal) it seems to me that the difference in competitivenss will boil down to recruiting classes and depth.

Like I said, I'm willing to give the guy a chance, but this must be what Carolina fans feel like. ....(except that Carolina fans just KNOW they're going to suck...)....

Go ahead and flame away...
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Okay, you asked for it...

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tango said:
Oops.. neglected to put a question in there...

Anybody think Dooley and staff will consistently be able to keep up with Bama and UF recruiting classes year over year?
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At this point there is no reason to think otherwise. He seems to be in the mold of Saban minus the integrity issues. He was raised his whole life preparing for this moment while still doing it on his own.

There are no guarantees but he seems to have the necessary tools.
 
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Oddly enough... I think it depends on UGA. If he can compete on equal terms with UGA for Georgia talent then I think that will enable him to keep up. I have been saying for awhile that UT's championship talent has to come from Upstate SC and GA. Beyond that, he needs to build a real fence around TN and find every diamond in the rough there is between Bristol and Memphis.

Do I think he will keep up rankings wise according to Rivals? Maybe not. But what do you think is the real difference between the #1 class and #5 class?

UT has had two consecutive top 10 classes. They need one more and it needs to include some serious OL and DT talent.
 
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VOLNBAMA said:
there's not much difference between the #1 and #10 class. It comes down to coaching after that
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Since 5* players can bust, and there's the wildcard about the coaching, this is mostly true.

This year, maybe most years but this is the first I've followed closely, I'd say 4-10 are pretty close. #1 - #3 sure have a lot of stars up there.

If we use the last two for a couple decent DT's that can play in 3 years then the class is, for our needs, on par with any up there.

I agree with your point, some stars added to some players and some taken away from others due to the various people doing the evaluation + different coaching + different schemes = a ton of question marks.

Today is more about filling needs with quality players. This time next year, same thing, but all with CDDs boys.

The true test will be practice, motivation, and execution in the games.

And Justin Wilcox to be the Head Coach in waiting in 5 years so we can hold on to him because the Gators desperately want him to replace the failure that was "the Kirby Smart" experiment (when CUM quits).
 
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The guy had 2 weeks to fix the mess Lane left it in. He did about as good as anyone could in that situation. Who knows if he can coach in the SEC yet, but the recruiting class not being top 5 isn't even a good point, it's ridiculous. Come back in 3 years if Dooley is a flop.
 
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Its a law of diminishing returns. Would anybody have thought 3 years ago that USC & Ohio St. would be at the bottom of the Top 10? Or 10 years ago that FSU & Miami would be having a good year in recruiting if they finished in the Top 15? No, its cycles. Just take your own advice and trust the hire. And lets enjoy this class & the upcoming season. GO VOLS
 
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tango said:
I'm still struggling to be excited about the Dooley hire.

A man of character? Sure.
A man of good moral fiber? Ok, sure.
A man of class? Fine.
A man who salvaged a signing class under tough circumstances? Ok.

What I don't know is what kind of classes can be landed soley by Dooley's work. Am I willing to give him a chance? Yes.

I feel very nervous about 3 to 5 yrs from now.
I feel that Bama and Florida are going to consistently land top 5 classes year over year, and if Dooley cannot consistently sign Top 5 classes year over year, then we are going to struggle.

It remains to be seen, but if Dooley and staff is every bit as good as Saban and staff or Meyer and staff, then (all else equal) it seems to me that the difference in competitivenss will boil down to recruiting classes and depth.

Like I said, I'm willing to give the guy a chance, but this must be what Carolina fans feel like. ....(except that Carolina fans just KNOW they're going to suck...)....

Go ahead and flame away...
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What the crap does all of this mean? If you want to make a point then make a point.
 
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tango said:
I'm still struggling to be excited about the Dooley hire.

A man of character? Sure.
A man of good moral fiber? Ok, sure.
A man of class? Fine.
A man who salvaged a signing class under tough circumstances? Ok.

What I don't know is what kind of classes can be landed soley by Dooley's work. Am I willing to give him a chance? Yes.

I feel very nervous about 3 to 5 yrs from now.
I feel that Bama and Florida are going to consistently land top 5 classes year over year, and if Dooley cannot consistently sign Top 5 classes year over year, then we are going to struggle.

It remains to be seen, but if Dooley and staff is every bit as good as Saban and staff or Meyer and staff, then (all else equal) it seems to me that the difference in competitivenss will boil down to recruiting classes and depth.

Like I said, I'm willing to give the guy a chance, but this must be what Carolina fans feel like. ....(except that Carolina fans just KNOW they're going to suck...)....

Go ahead and flame away...
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I'm willing to guess a reincarnation of Vince Lombardi wouldn't please you either.

Or let me guess, we should have never let Fulmer go, right?
 
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