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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.
 
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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.


Now that sounds exactly like a coach who doesn't mind throwing his players under the bus.

We will see in time how good these guys are but the loss to USCjr is not because they are more talented that UT. How anyone can seriously say that is beyond my understanding. That game wasn't lost because we got out-athleted. It was lost because of silly mistakes by both the players and the coaches.
 
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Now that sounds exactly like a coach who doesn't mind throwing his players under the bus.

No it doesnt.

I have played and coached basketball for 30 years. Your players respond to the truth much better than fabricated perceptions, especially at that level. You think our upperclassmen are too stupid to understand there is a big difference between the roster they re on compared to some of the teams they ve played? The last guy got found out really quick for not "being real" even when he had the talent twice to win the east. Stating the obvious is not throwing your team under the bus.
 
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OP, obviously good points. I think most realize we're not armed to do much this year, but it's always tough to lose games you should/could win. For me, the repeated re-snap penalties... and unsportsman-like penalties had an impact on the loss...which don't have anything to do with talent. No one expects a perfect game, but those penalties which put us behind the sticks or took us from 3rd and 3 to 3rd and 8 really hurt us.
 
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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.
Well said 93
Most of those complaining and pointing fingers most likely have complained and pointed fingers from the stands their entire lives and have never coached or played the game. I played 13 years and coached after. I completely agree with what you said and to say Pruitt took over a horrible situation is a huge understatement.
 
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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.

Your a head coach so let me ask you.. in a close game would you have your QB take a knee with 45 seconds on the clock and 1 time out left. Or would you try and put at least 3 points on the board before half?
 
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Now that sounds exactly like a coach who doesn't mind throwing his players under the bus.

We will see in time how good these guys are but the loss to USCjr is not because they are more talented that UT. How anyone can seriously say that is beyond my understanding. That game wasn't lost because we got out-athleted. It was lost because of silly mistakes by both the players and the coaches.

Mistakes aside we were worn out the second half . We don’t have a 2nd or 3rd d-line rotation. We have a hodgepodge Offensive line that did not respond to a very loud and hostile environment. I felt like we should of won the game. I also believe we have a large majority of players that have not retrained their selves to winning. Both winning and losing is contagious. If being honest is throwing kids under the bus then I guess Im quilty. . Someone warm up the Greyhound .
 
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Your a head coach so let me ask you.. in a close game would you have your QB take a knee with 45 seconds on the clock and 1 time out left. Or would you try and put at least 3 points on the board before half?
I would have preferred to run a couple low risk plays and if we got solid yardage then take a shot. I have never been a fan of leaving bullets in the gun. Having said that I can understand going to halftime with the lead and getting the ball to start the second half. Just not my personal prefferance .
 
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It’s like the Auburn beatdown never happened around here. On the road, JG played fantastic, 1st SEC win since 2016. Fast forward to last night - lose on the road to SC by 3 with no Trey Smith and suddenly VN is “tired of what UT has become”. Buncha weak minded know nothings on VN these days.
Auburn definitely in everyone's distant view in rear mirror, but shouldn't be. I expected us to lose, as did most of the betting public. As with all of our games this year, except Bama, there's not been a total train-wreck game. Offense definitely showed improvement with strategy and OL blocking. The Defense regressed, and I think Pruitt got out-schemed last night on D...we didn't have an answer for the 3 TE power running sets SC threw at us, then we bit the bait and they burned us long. Good news is they played well enough to win...bad news is critical errors and poor tackling cost us the W. Letting them off the hook is probably what upsets most. I see improvement, but not sure if I see enough for two more SEC wins...but certainly possible if they keep improving. Pruitt's got us on the right path, but everyone just ready to consistently start whipping up on some folks
 
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Now that sounds exactly like a coach who doesn't mind throwing his players under the bus.

We will see in time how good these guys are but the loss to USCjr is not because they are more talented that UT. How anyone can seriously say that is beyond my understanding. That game wasn't lost because we got out-athleted. It was lost because of silly mistakes by both the players and the coaches.
List the coaching mistakes that were made that stopped a drive for us or extended a drive for them.
 
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You are what your numbers say you are. Right now, we're not a solid SEC team. I think the staff has the youngsters playing hard. Lots of mistakes still taking place. I have no doubt the staff wants to win because that's who they are. Recruiting is going to be the only way out of this mess and that's the next phase where this staff must compete better than we are hearing so far. Not saying they cannot or will not but they have to in order to win. The Vandy and Mizzou games are not in the bag, far from it.
 
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No it doesnt.

I have played and coached basketball for 30 years. Your players respond to the truth much better than fabricated perceptions, especially at that level. You think our upperclassmen are too stupid to understand there is a big difference between the roster they re on compared to some of the teams they ve played? The last guy got found out really quick for not "being real" even when he had the talent twice to win the east. Stating the obvious is not throwing your team under the bus.

Preach Bro Beech.

Seriously, I agree 100%.
 
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Your a head coach so let me ask you.. in a close game would you have your QB take a knee with 45 seconds on the clock and 1 time out left. Or would you try and put at least 3 points on the board before half?

On the road, in the SEC? Taking a knee wasnt a bad call. So what happens if instead of taking a knee, JG throws a pick 6? Ir they caused a fumble and scored? Its easy to sit back with hindsight when you are not the coach.

Question, do you think Pruitt knew his defense would just utterly collapse? Or, do you think he expected them to execute his gameplan like they had been?
 
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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.

Very well said and I agree with your post. I’m in my 26th year as a high school football coach. I have been fortunate to coach some very good teams. Two of which won two state championships in our states highest classification. I’ve also coached a few teams that went 4-6. My last year as a head coach we went 5-6 and I was pumped. It may have been one of my best jobs coaching. My point in all this is when you’ve got good players you have a shot at being good. If you don’t, well, you’re not going to be very good. With the exception of a few players I don’t see a whole lot of talent on this team. But I do see us getting better. And for the most part I see us playing hard, we just don’t play well at times. CJP had nothing to do with the mess created the previous 10 years. He shouldn’t be held accountable to that mess. He’s been our coach for 8 games. People don’t want to hear this but he needs time. Give the man a chance to fix the mess that took 10 years to create. It ain’t going to be fixed in 1 year.
 
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Preach Bro Beech.

Seriously, I agree 100%.

I remember in HS playing the best team in our district (and one of the best in the state) on the road and we lost by 25.

My coach was out in the lobby after the game talking to a couple guys I didnt know. One of them asked.
"What happened tonite coach?"

His response, "We just played a team that's gonna have 2 players drafted one day. I thought we did well."

He was correct in both regards. One ended up playing 13 or 14 years in the NBA. And made several All Star teams. The other played about 8.

He didnt throw his team under the bus he stated a fact. They had better players and they won.
 
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We still have to play a tough Kentucky defense and dominate running attack. Our schedule hasn't been good for us fans but it will benefit the team down the road. I think our team and coaches expect they can beat anyone they play. I think they can also.
 
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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.


Someone who knows from experience what they are talking about. How refreshing!
 
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Great points 93.
BOT, I get your points, but where was that mentality with Auburn? 10m left in the 4th, we're up by 2 scores, on the 50 yard line, 1st and 10, and throw a 45 yard bomb. At the least, JG could have thrown it away and we could have knelt out the half. Seemed like we played to not lose rather tha ln playing to win.
 
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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.
I'm with you. Team is doing better than I thought they would at this point. A month ago I would not have expected to beat USC, or would have doubted it, but I came into this game expecting to have a chance, a good chance. And what do you know. We did!

My projection for this season was 5-7, and it remains so, but IMO we can sweep November if the improvement I have seen continues.
 
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The rankings of 4 of our 5 losses. Winless last year in the SEC and we lose a game we could have won and half of VN is in meltdown. Sorry just don’t see it . This is my 25th year coaching HS football and one thing I know I have learned is either your getting better or getting worse. It is about the jimmys and joes as much or more than x’s and o’s . I see improvement. I see a HC and staff that is actually invested in winning and can’t stand to lose. Yes they will make mistakes but we as a fan base can’t expect anyone to win the Kentucky Derby running a Shetland Pony , no matter how many Life Championships they have.

Then this guy shows up and hits a homerun. Thanks for a reasonable response to madness.
 
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Gasp, are you saying the players failed to execute? Blasphemy!
IKR! I believe that some folks can't tell the difference between decisions with which they disagree and mistakes, and then they only call it a mistake if it doesn't work. If all of these posters that are ready to pull the plug on Pruitt know all the right decisions to make, why are they posting instead coaching?
 
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Great points 93.
BOT, I get your points, but where was that mentality with Auburn? 10m left in the 4th, we're up by 2 scores, on the 50 yard line, 1st and 10, and throw a 45 yard bomb. At the least, JG could have thrown it away and we could have knelt out the half. Seemed like we played to not lose rather tha ln playing to win.
Biggest difference is Auburn plays a lot of press cover 1 or zero. Carolina was playing a quarter-quarter half or cover 6 giving us the screens . We took a couple shots and honestly thought the last deep throw was more of a PI that wasn’t called then they threw on us. I think JP felt good about having the lead at the half and getting the ball to start the second half.
 
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