1-2 interceptions per game...

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The only game Dobbs did not throw 1-2 INT's per game was against Tennessee Tech.

Last season, he only threw 5.

What is the reasoning behind this?
 
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He's thrown the ball more? We've had to come from behind more causing him to have to throw more?
 
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It's a good question. I don't know the answer.

It's not the passing frequency, just double-checked that.

Through 9 games this year, Dobbs attempted 246 passes. Through the first 9 games last year, he attempted 251. So practically identical number of opportunities for INTs.

It's possible we're attempting to push the passes further downfield this year, which is always riskier. Intuitively, that seems right to me, but I have no stats to back it up.
 
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Without looking at the stats and seeing VFL-82-JP's post above I would look into when Dobbs is throwing the ball. Last season UT built leads and lost them. We all know UT tried to sit on the leads last year...This season UT has had to come from behind. So is he throwing it more in the 2nd half?
 
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Dobbs is not accurate throwing the ball/Dobbs makes bad decisions throwing the ball...

What do I win??!!
 
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Im going to guess he got his natural talents beat out of him this offseason. A lot of talk of "improving Dobbs as a passer" Im guessing last season he just did what felt right to him in the moment and it worked mostly, this year i feel he second guesses himself a lot about tucking the ball and running since he was supposed to be an improved pocket passer. He doubts the throws but makes them anyway because it is what he practiced, leading to poor mistakes. I think this is most evident on the balls that hit the ground well before the recievers feet. It's like in his mind its "Oh RUN!...wait gotta throw it, uhhh ok good enough!" throws duck
 
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It's because other than Jennings and Barnett, no player on our roster has been developed from year to year. Butch can recruit ok but is awful at player development.
 
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He knows it's his last season. He is trying to force plays that are not there.
 
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DaKoolAidisORANGE said:
Im going to guess he got his natural talents beat out of him this offseason. A lot of talk of "improving Dobbs as a passer" Im guessing last season he just did what felt right to him in the moment and it worked mostly, this year i feel he second guesses himself a lot about tucking the ball and running since he was supposed to be an improved pocket passer. He doubts the throws but makes them anyway because it is what he practiced, leading to poor mistakes. I think this is most evident on the balls that hit the ground well before the recievers feet. It's like in his mind its "Oh RUN!...wait gotta throw it, uhhh ok good enough!" throws duck
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It not just one thing, in my opinion, but, the above sums up what's going on. Dobbs, and some other players, are "living in their heads" (as a friend used to say). Some might say he's been over-coached.
 
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Last year he had several balls that should have been picked that were dropped, that number of 5 was fortunate. Some of his picks this year have been ball that should have been caught and were tipped or arm hit throwing in traffic and did not get full motion or follow through. I just hope he finishes good in the passing game. Would like to see us lead and Dormady get to play in rest of the games this year.
 
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Dobbs is not accurate throwing the ball/Dobbs makes bad decisions throwing the ball...

What do I win??!!
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tallvolball98 said:
The O LINE!
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OLine wasn't particularly good last year either, so I don't think that's it.

I think it's a combination of things, but ultimately, the number one reason is just Dobbs poor decision making.

Go back and recall some of his ints.....the bad pick vs App State where he threw it up for grabs off his back foot near the goal line/in the endzone....the poor throw into triple coverage to end the TAM game....the late throw over the middle vs SCar which allowed the corner to come off his man and make an easy play on the ball.....ditto vs Florida.

I think most of the circumstances from last year to this are the same .....the difference is Dobbs' poor decision-making and more of it.

He honestly could've easily had double digit interceptions last year when he made some bone headed throws that should've been intercepted but were dropped (3 vs Bama alone). But this year, he's made even more bad decisions and the DBs have held onto the ball.
 
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TennesseeTarheel said:
It not just one thing, in my opinion, but, the above sums up what's going on. Dobbs, and some other players, are "living in their heads" (as a friend used to say). Some might say he's been over-coached.
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agree with this. a lot of hype and expectations this season, kids played scared of making mistakes, which always leads to mistakes. understandable, just disapointing when we know they have the talent to do better. i think they can learn from this season and play better next year when everyone will be saying "this is a good football team but they dont live up to expectations" should alleviate some pressure. i think it shows when they would get down by a lot of points. they had nothing to lose so they would go all out and hope for the best, and when they did, they are just as good as anyone.
 
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Throwing further downfield and the d knows it will be a pass due to playing from behind. He also has a higher qbr, more tds, and more ypg.
 
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Dougie_D said:
The only game Dobbs did not throw 1-2 INT's per game was against Tennessee Tech.

Last season, he only threw 5.

What is the reasoning behind this?
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My impression is that last season our avg yards-to-go on 2nd down was notably less than it has been this season (and probably on 3rd down as well).

It also seems like we've accumulated more offensive penalties this season, further worsening our down-and-distance. Is someone able to divine those stats and see if I'm full of hooey?

Both factors would allow defenses to line up committed against the pass on more plays. Our O-line has proved unable to give Dobbs time to make long passes (before TennTech), so defensive backs can play us tight on our short routes.

Last season (if my guess is accurate) we ran more offensive plays within a yardage range where Dobbs was just as likely to pick up the first down running as passing, and defenses had to play us straight up with no pre-snap advantage. Also, this season, Defensive Coordinators have a better book on Dobbs, so I imagine they've also been taking away from him the things he did best last season.

And here's a sad thought: maybe in practice he's now facing poorer coverage than he faced in practice last season. :hmm:
 
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fade route said:
It's because other than Jennings and Barnett, no player on our roster has been developed from year to year. Butch can recruit ok but is awful at player development.
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I see you are still at it. Blame everything on the coaches and nothing on a player. Do you think Hurd is/was the only player who has taken plays off. Look at the interception when Williams let the ball go through his hand and it was intercepted. That was not Dobbs' fault nor was it a coaches fault. Even though we played TT Saturday, It appeared to me that the plays had been well coached and can execute when they want to. Attitude is the important factor in execution and to of those players who have exhibited poor attitude are no longer on the team. One could see the difference in attitude in Saturdays’s game. There are cancer on football teams, just as there are cancers on this board. I wonder if anyone can identify the cancers on this board? They are the same dozen or so posters who are the root of most of the disatfaction with the coaches here.
 
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He's thinking too much and trying to "guide the ball" on some of his throws. That's evident by the 5 yard bounce passes. Last year he was more instinctual, imo. Where they've tried to turn him into a pocket passer, he has time, or has to think more. I think him thinking and second guessing is a major problem. Especially after having multiple interceptions.

In essence, I think he's in his own head.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I see you are still at it. Blame everything on the coaches and nothing on a player. Do you think Hurd is/was the only player who has taken plays off. Look at the interception when Williams let the ball go through his hand and it was intercepted. That was not Dobbs' fault nor was it a coaches fault. Even though we played TT Saturday, It appeared to me that the plays had been well coached and can execute when they want to. Attitude is the important factor in execution and to of those players who have exhibited poor attitude are no longer on the team. One could see the difference in attitude in Saturdays’s game. There are cancer on football teams, just as there are cancers on this board. I wonder if anyone can identify the cancers on this board? They are the same dozen or so posters who are the root of most of the disatfaction with the coaches here.
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Unfortunately, Fade is in large part right. Player development is not a strength of Butch and his staff and it's an issue.
 
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He is late with some throws and that let's DBs back in the play. Miscommunication with receivers, hit while throwing, and unlucky bounces off receivers to DBs.

This is football, rarely it's ever a simple solution.

Same goes for all the fumbles. Look at each one and it makes you say "just hang on to the ball", or "look out", and "get out of the way", some are effort while others leave me shaking my head. Towards any big run or catch I find myself thinking "don't fumble", sometimes I say it out loud at the TV.

Plan D all the way to Tampa.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I see you are still at it. Blame everything on the coaches and nothing on a player. Do you think Hurd is/was the only player who has taken plays off. Look at the interception when Williams let the ball go through his hand and it was intercepted. That was not Dobbs' fault nor was it a coaches fault. Even though we played TT Saturday, It appeared to me that the plays had been well coached and can execute when they want to. Attitude is the important factor in execution and to of those players who have exhibited poor attitude are no longer on the team. One could see the difference in attitude in Saturdays’s game. There are cancer on football teams, just as there are cancers on this board. I wonder if anyone can identify the cancers on this board? They are the same dozen or so posters who are the root of most of the disatfaction with the coaches here.
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The Oline is worse than last year, Malone has had flashes but has also been MIA in games, Wolf's production is down, don't get me started on Croom, McKenzie is pedestrian at best, Dobbs struggles with the same issues as last year and might be even worse, Bates can't get on the field, Moseley still getting burnt routinely, Charles Moseley also can't seem to get on the field, TKjr is ok but hasn't turned into the player many thought he would be..............should I go on?

BTW - everyone I listed except McKenzie is in their 3rd year of Butch's program
 
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It seems that the INTs are made when it's a long distance to get a first down, 7-10 yards. Our running game has been less effective which means we have been in bad shape on 3rd downs. Our offensive hasn't blocked well. I would say maybe 3 times WRs actually dropped the ball into the defenders hands(Preston Williams vs Ohio and Croom vs A&M and probably a couple more I'm forgetting about). The Croom one was sickening and if I were coach wouldn't have played him the rest of the game or this season after that and PW is gone now so has plenty of time to practice on his volleyball skills out in Colorado. There's been a multitude of things to the increase in INTs but Dobbs has been a little more careless this year with the ball.
 
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